Iranian cleric says "rioters" should be executed

Originally posted by ChrisF231
the same country that had mass hangings of "enemies of the state"

the same country that hangs homosexuals in the town squares ...

You see these stories all the time -

Iran Focus

Under Iran’s Islamic Penal Code, homosexuality between consenting adults is a capital crime and official Iranian sources express hostility to homosexual practices.

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This is Iran, the same country that had mass hangings of "enemies of the state" in the 1980s and 1990s. To merely call for the deaths of protesters is tame for them ....

True.True but I would like to think that the world is a different place today and will not sit by idle and do nothing. like i said "I would like to think'" but I could be wrong.

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We can't do anything except send hot air towards the Mullahs because if we do send troops then half of ATS will make posts about the "evil genocidal imperialist Americans" invading peaceful Iran. Were dammed if we do and were dammed if we dont. If the world wants us to intervene then maybe they should have shut their mouths during the Iraq War.

These supreme religious leaders are doing nothing in terms of religion and only showing that they are gluttons for power like Stalin and Hitler of the past. Just continue torturing and murdering innocent people. However, what goes around comes around, and maybe one day their heads will be in the hang-man's noose if they aren't careful. Violence begets violence.

I hope the movement continues amid these barbarous threats by the religious zealots. These men have no place in politics and we see absolute power corrupts absolutely. They are a bunch of hypocrites and so soon they forget how it was for them to live under tyranny. Before the first revolution these men would've been rounded up by the Shah's secret police tortured and executed as being revolutionaries.

Originally posted by punkinworks

Originally posted by redhead57

Back in 80 I dated one of the Iranian students that were here on those visas and stayed after it expired out of fear. His family had been part of the regime of the Shah and when the takeover happened his whole family was nearly wiped out. Change of regime over there is not simple and these people in power are well aware of what they are facing if a coup were to really happen there. I only hope the momentum continues and the people come out in full force, that is the only way this will end well for the people of Iran. IMHO

I had a girl in a couple of high school classes(1980), whos family fled the revolution fearing for thier lives. Her father was an architect or engineer or something cant remember, hardly the kind of person that would be hunted around the globe but they were.
An attempt to kill them was made right here in the US by iranian "students". One day while driving home from work, with his daughter their car was run off the road and riddled with bullets.
I read about the incident in the paper, but details were few and it was reported as a shoot out between the mexican mafia and nuestra famillia, they were having quite the gang war at the time.

A few days later she came to class to say goodbye, with an FBI escort, because they were moving again, this wasnt the first attempt on thier lives.
She was a really nice girl too,it was quite a shock to a group high school sophomores that a foreign power would go to such lengths to get someone.I suspect the revolutions beef with them was that they were christians.
back to the subject at hand, there are several ATS's that are conspicuously absent from this discussion.
Lets see them blame this on the cia.

Revolutionary Iran has a long history of reppressing its people, just a couple of months ago two young men were executed for BEING GAY, thats a civilized society for you.
Or how about the british journalist that was arrested and beaten to death by security forces. Or the untold numbers of non shia muslims that have been dissapeared.
or the non shia mosques that have been bulldozed

or their treatment of non muslim citizens, zororastrians and members of the bahai faith and others.

or the public beateing of women for not covering thier heads


its funny how some people conviently forget such things

I've heard similar accounts from some Iranian friends about family or friends they have known being hunted down by this regime. Unfortunately in these circumstances the regime succeeded in their assassinations.

It's common to for the regime to send its spies all over the world. The excuses for travel are often for university or just for work, and sometimes even claiming state benefits such as dole!!

And these people just appear and act like ordinary civilised people, until one day, after waiting for the right time they carry out their assassination and then return home.

Islamic spies can be as dangerous as soviet spies were back in the cold war, and operate much in the same way.

With all this criminality much like mafia style gangs running a country but much worse, we should not be surprised that Iranian's have had enough.

The last thing Iranian's want now is western involvement, it is their fight, and they must prevail. Otherwise the only other conclusion would be for the west to remove this despicable regime.

Originally posted by Zerbst
reply to post by john124

 

First, the actual quote, below, states "leading rioters". Did you leave out the "leading" part to enhance this statement?

while a hardline Iranian cleric called for the execution of leading "rioters."

Second, the headline says "RIOTERS", not protesters! There is a significant difference between the two.

*****Iranian cleric says "rioters" should be executed*****

They're calling for executions of protestors..... this fits right in line with what has been reported on CNN and the youtube videos, as they wouldn't be sat drinking tea with those the regime want to execute now would they?

Third, this is the law in Iran! Whether we agree with it, or not, is irrelevant. This fact is also ignored by Obama, which I find very unsettling!

www.reuters.com...
"They should be punished ruthlessly and savagely," he said. Under Iran's Islamic law, punishment for people convicted as "mohareb" is execution.

Lastly, even if this was said and is true, nobody has been executed. This would be a serious matter if it were true. I happen to hold the opinion that this is 100% US propaganda. But hypothetically, if you are the leader of a country that's on the verge of civil anarchy, you should probably try everything you can think of to regain control. That includes statements reminding those citizens of any and all punishments they may face. Especially the nasty ones. Saying it and doing it are completely different acts.

I'd also like to say that I cannot believe everyone responding to this thread overlooked the word "rioters"? Each and every one of you were so eager to bash the governors of Iran, you completely disregarded the entire situation! Spewing nonsense one after the other over your own neglection to diligence! Shame on all of you!

Peace.

Actually mate it's shame on you. The regime calls them rioters in order to deter idiots like you from from realising they are protestors. Thank god Obama isn't so stupid!!

We are rightfully criticising past and present violent acts of the regime. That's not bashing!! It's simply making an accurate observation.

Anyway protestors are using violence in self-defence. I would call the basij militia rioters and killers actually. The basij committing barbaric acts of violence resulting in unnecessary damage as well as unnecessary bloodshed.

Are unarmed protestors supposed to just stand there and take a beating whilst not fighting back??! Of course not!!

Fighting back, setting fire to basij motorbikes, chasing them away is self-defence and part of anyone's human rights to defend & protect yourself from extreme violence. Come on.... you arguement is so flawed that a 5 yr old could and would make this realisation.

Notice all your friends who would stick up for your case have gone now after they have seen how despicable this regime treats its people.

How's it feel to be the last one here in complete denial.....

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If you want to be Ghandi, then go be Ghandi, but know that way to many in this world will still use you as a target! They will kill you just to make their point, or are in their way, not because you deserved it! In this case those that wish to protect themselves understand the point! I don't say its right, I do say it true and 'feelings' won't change it!

Zindo

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You not only took that statement way out of context, you even changed the wording of the quote itself to suite your needs. What you are doing is bashing, plain and simple. Who are you to say what was meant by this statement? Some other dullard replied here saying that the Iranian government doesn't distinguish between rioters and protesters? People like you two are obviously delusional. Claiming to know others thoughts is your justification to these claims?

You seem to think I'm an "idiot" for noting the difference between rioting and protesting and, unlike Obama, I am "stupid" for understanding these differences? Well, whether you and Obama like it or not, there is a difference between a riot and a protest. If you want to argue this with me, try and bring more than your twisted delusions and name calling.

I think you were upset because I reddened your ass in front of everyone! Next time, just pull your pants up and go home. Save yourself the further humiliation!

Originally posted by john124
How's it feel to be the last one here in complete denial.....

Next time I will spare you the embarrassment by not reminding you of the childish name calling, but I'll make sure you remember this statement if and when the truth is revealed.

Peace.