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Alien Technology - TR-3B - How it works

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posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 04:26 AM
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I saw this video a while back but never posted it. The information presented is very interesting and plausible. This goes into some detail on how these craft work and could explain a lot of UFO sightings.

www.disclose.tv...

Enjoy!

[edit on 26-6-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 07:13 AM
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yeah possibly. from all of the ones i know about, they sucked horribly. discs are not a great shape for flying.

but then again...the original "flying wing" was too and now its one of the most awesome bombers ever.

i have no idea about a triangle shaped craft combined with modern tech.

[edit on 26-6-2009 by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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The guy who made that video has a youtube channel....you may want to check it out.
www.youtube.com...

Plenty of good research on there!



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 08:09 AM
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Oh thanks! I was digging on his disclose.tv channel trying to find other videos like the one I posted, I'll look it up! Thanks a million!


edit: is it just me or is Youtube having dependability issues lately? I can't play the videos yet any other site load fine.


[edit on 26-6-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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The TR-3B Astra uses a Mercury Plasma Accelerator Ring (MPAR) that is spun at 65,000 rpms and pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres to create an apparent mass reduction of 89%, this reducing the power needed to propel the craft. Its main propulsion comes from 3 rocket thrusters at each corner of the triangle. They use liquid oxygen, hydrogen,and methane. Although other fuels are reported. It has a reported top speed of Mach 10, or 7,000 mph.

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posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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Interesting at first, but I completely lost that interest when he mentioned and showed pictures of "rods" towards the end.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Interesting information, thanks for that.


I always wondered if this is actually a TR-3B having some fun with the Royal Belgium Airforce.




posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 03:33 PM
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That was really interesting. My question is, if the government has disclosed that it has developed and uses flying triangles, then why do the reports of unidentified flying triangles still pour in from all over the world? Can't we assume that these craft are the U.S triangles? Why hasn't the government confirmed these sightings as their own triangle craft?



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
reply to post by oconnection
 


That was really interesting. My question is, if the government has disclosed that it has developed and uses flying triangles, then why do the reports of unidentified flying triangles still pour in from all over the world? Can't we assume that these craft are the U.S triangles? Why hasn't the government confirmed these sightings as their own triangle craft?


Well if these are government craft then they would have to keep them secret. After all they have been spotted in restricted air space. Disclosure and claim to these craft could start a war.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
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That was really interesting. My question is, if the government has disclosed that it has developed and uses flying triangles, then why do the reports of unidentified flying triangles still pour in from all over the world? Can't we assume that these craft are the U.S triangles? Why hasn't the government confirmed these sightings as their own triangle craft?


It is well known from various sources inside the government that is now public knowledge that a great way to throw off the public to the fact these vehicles are man made is to cause the public to believe they are alien craft. They did this with the U2, SR-71. F-117, and the B2 before it was released to the public. This technique also has the added benefit of throwing off unfriendly governments into thinking they are alien craft.

But at the same time I don't believe every UFO can be called man made.

Edit to add:

Edgar Fouche Discusses Advanced, Secret Aircraft

Google Video Link


Show's some good video evidence on the TR-3B!

[edit on 26-6-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 10:32 PM
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Yes, I believe that and others like it are TR3B's. Some are alien craft IMO though.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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reply to post by oconnection
 

To talk of a mach 10 capability for the TR-3B (assuming just for a moment that it exists) would be to suggest all the isssues regarding airframe heating have been solved.

That has been a major limiting factor for a long time, as far as I know.

How is it suggested this has been solved with the TR-3B?



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 10:57 PM
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How is it suggested this has been solved with the TR-3B?


Advanced nano alloys, it is also rumored to use advanced nanotechnology based adaptive camouflage system as well, rumored to be capable of complete visual and electromagnetic stealth.



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 11:03 PM
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You could describe my position with the TR-3B as very skeptical, but very interested.

May I ask:

How do you define a "nano alloy" & how would that combat extreme heat loadings?

How would a nanotechnology-based adaptive camouflage system work?

How would you achieve complete visual & electromagnetic stealth?




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posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 11:08 PM
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Well from what I've gathered it's rumored that it has the ability to cancel 89% of gravity thus taking away most of the g forces. So for example 40 Gs would equal 4.2 Gs.

Pretty much the only evidence we have of the TR-3B exists is documented video and pictures. It's also rumored it's part of the Aura project, that Aura is a series of evolving aircraft technology.

When there are rumors and stories that the B2 uses electro-gravitic technology, thus explaining to some why it has a 1.2 billion dollar price tag I don't find it that far fetched that this craft exists. Here are some concepts to what this could look like when activated: www.theorionconspiracy.com...#


The simplest form of electro-gravitic tech is take a long roll of electrical wire, roll it into a coil, a donut shape, attach a plug, plug it in and watch what happens. Please note that there are examples of this online and wouldn't recommend doing this your self unless your a trained electrician because it's prone to cause fires. So you've been warned.



Sam60, the information is out there and I'd recommend looking into this topic. A nano allow is a result of nano technology that is currently being developed and researched heavily. A nano allow is a man made material that is constructed at the microscopic level to be denser than naturally occurring material. It was reported that some of the material recovered from the Roswell crash in 1947 was as thin as tin foil but more tough than any material known to us at time. It also has an ability to flex without breaking making it ideal for aircraft and spacecraft.



Enjoy =)

[edit on 26-6-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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Thanks for your info & your links. I have just looked at the first video of Paul LaViolette (I haven't watched the whole series) & I have looked at the second video.

Whilst I am aware of the concepts of nanotechnology & in a couple of areas I actually have some knowledge of it through my job, I don't believe the development & application of nanotechnology is anywhere what it needs to be to produce something like a TR-3B.

That is why I asked those specific questions.

Also, I don't believe that cancelling out 89% of the gravity is the same thing as cancelling out 89% of the g-forces associated with the claimed ability for high-speed manouvres.

I believe the $1.2B cost of the B2 can be explained by the huge work that went into that thing, based on more conventional explanation.

I've followed the Aurora rumours for years - I just wish we could know for sure if there is some post-SR71 mach 7 speed machine out there right now!

I'll have a look at the rest of the Paul LaViolette videos when I get a chance.




[edit on 26-6-2009 by Sam60]



posted on Jun, 26 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Isn't g forces caused by the pull of gravity? If your able to dampen the force of gravity, wouldn't that lessen the g forces?

I know so many people who work for the government, in one way or another. Every single person I know in this line of work dismisses that somehow they'd come across this sort of information in time. What people seem to fail to realize is the principle of need to know. Does one need to know information related to there responsibility. So we have the issue of compartmentalization.

I'm not trying to water down your expertise, I'm not even sure that this type of nano material exists. If you payed attention to what I was saying is if we were able to dampen gravitation forces, we wouldn't need material to withstand such extreme pressures. I know it may be hard to grasp.

If you believe UFOs exist, if they are from humans or be it aliens, the same laws apply, do they not? The fact that we've observed seeming impossible maneuvers from these craft would cause one to conclude that they are spiritual in nature or there is some sort of anti-gravity at work.

[edit on 27-6-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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I get what you're saying & I enjoy the points you're making.

I think "super-specialisation" adds to "compartmentalisation", to make it even more difficult to understand what might be going on out there.

You know, it's amazing how long they kept the SR71 & the F-117 out of the public eye. It's certainly possible there are other things that have been kept out of public view.

It's a fascinating topic.



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 01:43 AM
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How do you define a "nano alloy" & how would that combat extreme heat loadings?

By being able to very tightly and compactly wind nanotubes of super strong alloys (ie;titanium-carbon 5) you can increase the total density and thus strength of the airframe,as far as heat exposure to the pilots this is also absorbed in the skin and diffused.


How would a nanotechnology-based adaptive camouflage system work?

This is possible by being able to place thousands of tiny cameras within the skin of the craft, each camera then projects an image of what is above the craft on the bottom and vice versa thus an illusion of invisibility is achieved. This is technology being publically worked on now, but it has been possible since the mid 80s more than likely, maybe much earlier.


How would you achieve complete visual & electromagnetic stealth?

I explained the visual stealth above, the total EM stealth is made possible by the advanced alloy, and more so the EM displacement field being generated by the MPAR, it was an accidental, but very beneficial side effect of the mass reduction apparatus actually.





The TR-3B vehicle’s outer coating is reactive to electrical Radar stimulation and can change reflectiveness, radar absorptiveness,and color. This polymer skin, when used in conjunction with the TR-3Bs Electronic Counter Measures and, ECCM, can make the vehicle look like a small aircraft, or a flying cylinder--or even trick radar receivers into falsely detecting a variety of aircraft, no aircraft, or several aircraft at various locations.A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field Disrupter, surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead of any imaginable technology.


Sandia and Livermore laboratories developed the reverse engineered MFD technology. The government will go to any lengths to protect this technology. The plasma, mercury based, is pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees Kelvin and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive plasma with the resulting gravity disruption. The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89 percent. Do not misunderstand. This is not antigravity. Anti-gravity provides a repulsive force that can be used for propulsion. The MFD creates a disruption of the Earth's gravitational field upon the mass within the circular accelerator. The mass of the circular accelerator and all mass within the accelerator, such as the crew capsule, avionics, MFD systems, fuels, crew environmental systems, and the nuclear reactor, are reduced by 89%.This causes the effect of making the vehicle extremely light and able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet constructed--except, of course, those UFOs we did not build.



The TR-3B is a high altitude, stealth, reconnaissance platform with an indefinite loiter time. Once you get it up there at speed, it doesn’t take much propulsion to maintain altitude.At Groom Lake their have been whispered rumours of a new element that acts as a catalyst to the plasma.With the vehicle mass reduced by 89%, the craft can travel at Mach 9, vertically or horizontally. My sources say the performance is limited only the stresses that the human pilots can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%.


The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach 9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet--then God knows how fast it can go!The 3 multimode rocket engines mounted under each corner of the craft use hydrogen or methane and oxygen as a propellent.In a liquid oxygen/hydrogen rocket system, 85% of the propellent mass is oxygen. The nuclear thermal rocket engine uses a hydrogen propellent, augmented with oxygen for additional thrust. The reactor heats the liquid hydrogen and injects liquid oxygen in the supersonic nozzle, so that the hydrogen burns concurrently in the liquid oxygen afterburner.The multimode propulsion system can; operate in the atmosphere, with thrust provided by the nuclear reactor, in the upper atmosphere, with hydrogen propulsion, and in orbit, with the combined hydrogen\ oxygen propulsion.


What you have to remember is, that the 3 rocket engines only have to propel 11 percent of the mass of the Top Secret TR-3B. The engines are reportedly built by Rockwell.Many sightings of triangular UFOs are not alien vehicles but the top secret TR-3B. The NSA, NRO, CIA, and USAF have been playing a shell game with aircraft nomenclature - creating the TR-3, modified to the TR-3A, the TR-3B, and the Teir 2, 3, and 4, with suffixes like Plus or Minus added on to confuse further the fact that each of these designators is a different aircraft and not the same aerospace vehicle. A TR-3B is as different from a TR-3A as a banana is from a grape. Some of these vehicles are manned and others are unmanned.

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America's Ultra Black Programs: Part Two



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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America's 'Ultra Black' Projects


The first thread I made about my source, it explains some of this technology.







 
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