The NWO has a point

The NWO has a point

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(I apologize to the moderators, i couldn't post a regular topic it kept sending me to an error page.)

After seeing again and again in my daily routine and throughout, at the very least American culture if not most now-a-days, a complete disregard for anything that is not "them" or the "self" so to say I am starting to see the NWO's P.O.V. The Georgia Guide stones dictate that a culling of the population is required to around the 500,000,000 mark, and quite honestly i can agree.

I have but one stipulation to this agreement, reincarnation must be a possibility, if not i could not see an incentive for those wanting this change in the first place.

After the fact that they want to reduce the population everything after that point makes perfect sense (even the removal of the population.)

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

- I see this as a "reset of humanity" like said before if reincarnation is not a possibility then this would not be fair to any who live now. I believe that we all have the right to live, but if reincarnation is a possibility then I can see this as an opportunity to live in prosperity and unity.

2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

-This would be like a improved survival of the fittest, those with desirable traits would be chosen to reproduce and advance humanity in a positive manner.

3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

-A major downfall to connection with our brethren today is the "language barrier", and the "living" aspect could mean ever changing to coincide with our evolution throughout the ages to come.

4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

-As long as the tradition is built with proper intelligence and intent through logic and reason then it should be kept sacred and carried through out.

5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

-A lot of laws today may be seen as unjust to those who follow proper morals and have regard to others, but may still be necessary due to the amount of ignorance/intolerance that run rampant today.

6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

-Solving the issue that local problems should be voted on by those who are directly affected by them, as this is the most efficient and fair method of resolving internal affairs while using a global governance to insure justice through out.

7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

-I cannot say whether petty laws are a result of large populations or not, but i do believe that proper guidance through universal guidelines and morals would restrict the possible outcomes of an individuals actions.

8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

-I cannot think of any individual who should not agree with this "law." We, as emotional and ever evolving beings should put in as much effort to help those around us as we take to enjoy ourselves. Anything more than this is greed.

9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

-I believe this pays tribute to the possibility of reincarnation (explained at the end). truth first off, to show all that we have gained through out the years as knowledge and to be used as "truth" guidance of the utmost importance or known fact so its implementation could only be beneficial. Beauty and love coincide as the natural beauty of life should be shared with the love for all as we are all the infinite. Life itself is infinite whether it is "I" as an individual ego or not, humanity will proceed through history persistently.

10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature -Leave room for nature.

-As we are today a cancer on the earth. There are ways of achieving this today, but there are those today who will stop at nothing to profit on this to live in luxury at the expense of others therefore nullifying any proper advancement through this manner.


Now that i have shared my thoughts on these elements i want to expand on what i stated before.

I love all beings that I share this planet with, there may be those who do not share this love with me as we can see today and that leads to much hardship. I would willingly sacrifice my individual "ego" to ensure the advancement of this wondrously evolving and at heart altruistic species, as long as each individual would have a chance to one day take part to enjoy the utopia we may one day create. As i said before the latter would require that reincarnation be a necessity, and as there is no knowledge to state that it is fact it would require a great deal of faith which none, myself included have much of regarding this fact.

I truly hope this post does not go unnoticed although i chose a horrid time (3am est) to post this as I'm sure no one is on now.

I love you all, no matter what happens on this earth we shall always have a history to tell through our footsteps taken and left behind.


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-This would be like a improved survival of the fittest, those with desirable traits would be chosen to reproduce and advance humanity in a positive manner.

I see you have never read Brave New World.

reply to post by Ridhya


no i have not, would you mind giving me a synopsis? without sarcasm, honestly that is why i am here, i only look for answers.

Your thoughts and ideas are true elitist, you want high standards regarding humans, good hygiene and health but what about blond hair and blue eyes ? Should we also love Wagner ?

reply to post by reugen


you want my background? I'm 22, Italian, BLACK hair HAZEL eyes, have a Jewish stepmother and parents who have been separated since i was 2. and i love them ALL without reserve. I have 20 dollars to my name at the moment and only want whats right, i search for truth and positive thoughts at every moment of my life so if you want to go and label me as a elitist then you have not truly thought about what i have has to say and am offended that you would think so.

Who says the Georgia Guidestones ARE NWO? Because i can relate with the guidstones in a big part but the things that NWO are doing with poisoning the food we eat, stealing the money we make and destroying the minds we have they are NOT in concordance with the texts on the stones.

So the guidestones i can agree with but i cannot and will not agree with the NWO and what they are doing as far as we can see.

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reply to post by Harman


Yes as Monsanto can prove to your point, but i see these as unavoidable consequences of their intentions which i can only hope be their true intentions.

As i have read across the internet and on ATS these Guidestones have been created by, and with the intent of the NWO.

Every action that has been taken against us as a species has had some sort of reaction, (positive and negative) and honestly this is the most logical and hopefully fulfilling reaction to the potential outcome for our future. Seeing everything that is happening to us every day i only post this as some sort of positive outlook or hope for our future as i said there is no proof that we can partake in this utopia.


edit to correct spelling,

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[edit on 26-6-2009 by asafum08]

not to take this off topic or to bump my own post but would a moderator mind moving this to its proper location? I wouldn't want to refuse my peers of their proper placement, and like i said before i was experiencing an error that would not allow me to post a regular post.

Who gets to decide who the 500 million that live are? If only the NWO held to your ideals that you listed...

reply to post by Anonymous Avatar


That is a very good question. I would suppose that it would be their siblings. If the expansion of the African tribes that left that continent to expand to the empire of this planet that we hold today to be true then i would suppose that with todays knowledge and egotistical outlook that would be the same model. Only after hundreds if not thousands of years of reproduction following the same model would we produce beings implemented with the same characteristics and drives that would produce the ideal spices of being that could advance this universe to a potential of pure advancement and productive being for all. We have to see past who WE are, and to look froward to who or what may be making influence in the universe of beings in which we are involved with.

Originally posted by asafum08

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

- I see this as a "reset of humanity" like said before if reincarnation is not a possibility then this would not be fair to any who live now. I believe that we all have the right to live, but if reincarnation is a possibility then I can see this as an opportunity to live in prosperity and unity.

How does anybody know that 500,000,000 is the correct number of people ?


Even with reincarnation it wouldn't be fair to any who live now. We all have a right to live when we were meant to live, not when someone else deems fit.

2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

-This would be like a improved survival of the fittest, those with desirable traits would be chosen to reproduce and advance humanity in a positive manner.

And just who gets to decide what those desirable traits are ?

3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

English works just fine for me.

4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

Who decides what is reasonable ?

6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

-Solving the issue that local problems should be voted on by those who are directly affected by them, as this is the most efficient and fair method of resolving internal affairs while using a global governance to insure justice through out.

Global governance can also have the downfall of too much interference.

7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

I can agree that we have far too many useless officials.

8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

-I cannot think of any individual who should not agree with this "law." We, as emotional and ever evolving beings should put in as much effort to help those around us as we take to enjoy ourselves. Anything more than this is greed.

So are you saying that if i have a total of 20 hours a week to enjoy myself that i should spend 10 of those hours on helping others, and that if i don't i'm greedy ?

9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

I can agree with this.

10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature -Leave room for nature.

I totally agree with this.

-As we are today a cancer on the earth. There are ways of achieving this today, but there are those today who will stop at nothing to profit on this to live in luxury at the expense of others therefore nullifying any proper advancement through this manner.

Perhaps you are unaware that in the part of your statement that i bolded you described exactly the NWO elitest that you say have a point

reply to post by asafum08

.....but i see these as unavoidable consequences of their intentions which i can only hope be their true intentions.

I'm sorry, but IMO that is a very twisted statement. So basically the suffering of milions of good people, including innocent children, is nothing more than an "unavoidable consequence", the ends justify the means

reply to post by chise61


to all of your points in respect of their placement,

1. i already stated that it would not be fair to any who live now including myself, and that i agree we all have the right to live.

2. Desirable traits would be intelligence (which seems to have a correlation with the coordination of brain development) Cell regrowth, or reparation and longevity, and hopefully compassion ( i don't know what bran function controls this).

3. Your statement shows an adversity to learning a language different then your own, and that English is "right".

5. (skipping those you agree with) What is "right: is morally and intellectually accepted as the proper path to advancement and is always open to suggestion with proper research.

6. Global governance would only cover international affairs that surpassed individual states/countries laws regarding major legal disputes which should be taken care of anyway with the "weeding" of individuals in the first place.

8. the key word being BALANCE, i do not pretend to have the answers now, but i can say in MY definition, 20 hours of free time would be BALANCED with 20 hours of service into which your talents would be assessed and your skills be put to use for your fellow humans. Like i said before taking more than you put in would be greed, for we should all watch for eachother.

Lastly i agree that there are those who are taking advantage of the status quo which is why we need a serious change.

reply to post by chise61


Yea i agree with that too... i don't want to suffer just as much as the next bloke, believe me, i wish i could show you who i am to calm the thoughts of elitist that are circulating around here now, BUT as i stated before, how else would you partake in the "resetting" of humanity? Any method would suffice, without causing any physical distress, but of course having death and then ultimately rebirth being the outcome as a necessity.

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

- I see this as a "reset of humanity" like said before if reincarnation is not a possibility then this would not be fair to any who live now. I believe that we all have the right to live, but if reincarnation is a possibility then I can see this as an opportunity to live in prosperity and unity.

All you have to do, is remove sexualization from the mainstream media, remove synthetic hormones from society, and Segregate children by gender while in school, and this population problem will sort itself out.

No need to kill anyone.

2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

-This would be like a improved survival of the fittest, those with desirable traits would be chosen to reproduce and advance humanity in a positive manner.

Once again, Remove sexualization, synthetic hormones, and segregate children by gender in society.

They will take longer to Breed (Per generation) and be on average older, (And since they can actually PAY ATTENTION IN SCHOOL) and wiser when it comes time to chose a mate.

3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

-A major downfall to connection with our brethren today is the "language barrier", and the "living" aspect could mean ever changing to coincide with our evolution throughout the ages to come.

The internet is already doing this, no need to interfere.

The only reason that we have DIFFERENT languages is Distance between civilizations, and Travel time from one to another.

The internet reduced both of this to Near Zero, SO, a "Common" language will evolve naturally, that can coexist with regional languages.

(Probably English, IMO due to its technical nature, and usefulness in science and math.)

4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

-As long as the tradition is built with proper intelligence and intent through logic and reason then it should be kept sacred and carried through out.

As long as it harms no-one, I see no reason for Passion, Faith, or Tradition to be inherently Logical at all.

5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

-A lot of laws today may be seen as unjust to those who follow proper morals and have regard to others, but may still be necessary due to the amount of ignorance/intolerance that run rampant today.

Humans have been trying to do this since the dawn of time, while OTHER humans have been trying to make sure that this does not happen.

Good Luck.

6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

-Solving the issue that local problems should be voted on by those who are directly affected by them, as this is the most efficient and fair method of resolving internal affairs while using a global governance to insure justice through out.

Suspicious...

Who runs this world court?

And would a Court with No "Technical" jurisdiction besides (TH WORLD) ever be impartial, or Fair?

7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

-I cannot say whether petty laws are a result of large populations or not, but i do believe that proper guidance through universal guidelines and morals would restrict the possible outcomes of an individuals actions.

Good luck...

Official is a good job if you can get it...

People will always want more Government jobs.

8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

-I cannot think of any individual who should not agree with this "law." We, as emotional and ever evolving beings should put in as much effort to help those around us as we take to enjoy ourselves. Anything more than this is greed.

We already do... it is called TAXES.

Anything above that is tyranny.

9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

-I believe this pays tribute to the possibility of reincarnation (explained at the end). truth first off, to show all that we have gained through out the years as knowledge and to be used as "truth" guidance of the utmost importance or known fact so its implementation could only be beneficial. Beauty and love coincide as the natural beauty of life should be shared with the love for all as we are all the infinite. Life itself is infinite whether it is "I" as an individual ego or not, humanity will proceed through history persistently.

This BETTER not be a law.... EVER!

10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature -Leave room for nature.

-As we are today a cancer on the earth. There are ways of achieving this today, but there are those today who will stop at nothing to profit on this to live in luxury at the expense of others therefore nullifying any proper advancement through this manner.

Agreed.

All in all, The Illuminati / NWO / TPTB are morons.

They dont know how to manage a species; only an abstract ideal of "Money" is understood by them.

But as Money is defined and given meaning *BY* a species... they therefore understand NOTHING.

Their accumulation of WEALTH is precisely what is DESTROYING wealth.

IT is hilarious to see.

-Edrick

reply to post by Edrick


1 & 2 So you are suggesting that we revert back to a form of segregation? Whether it be male/female black/white/ human/alien?

3. The Internet is helping individuals learn other languages, but does not define a universal language. I do not pretend to know what would be the proper language, i only host the idea that 1 language would be preferable English or not.

4.Faith and tradition have hurt many for all of our history, it proves to be our most prominent obstacle of today and if you refuse this then i implore you look no further than our religious wars.

5. Your response is just negative opinion.

6. Again, i do not pretend to have every answer, but i would assume that a world court would have members of every nation and its jurisdiction would cover all international affairs.

7. ties in with shared duty to govern their fellow brethren.

8. No, People hate paying taxes they do not understand. Serving in a position that benefits society without a title that would grant you power over any individual can only advance a civilization.

9.why not? because of our lack of understanding of what happens after death?

reply to post by asafum08


1-No you said that if there were no reincarnation it would not be fair to those who live now. I'm saying that even with reincarnation it would not be fair to those who live now, as we all have a right to live when we were meant to live, not when some elitest human deems fit.

2-So your answer is that you are the one who decides what the desirable traits are ?

3-No my answer shows that English is the right language for me personally (humorous sarcasm doesn't always come across a computer screen well), but seriously English is the right langauge for me. I have no adversity to learning a new langauge, i have an adversity to being forced to learn a new langauge. It appears as if you presume that i know no other langauge.

5- You seem to be avoiding answering the questions about who exactly gets to be the decision maker.

6-They can't get that straight now, i have no faith that they can accomplish this in the future. Just how will these individuals be weeded ?

8-You can not force people to help their fellow humans, that has to come from within. Perhaps i prefer to spend the amount of my free time, that I deem fit to volunteer to help animals rather than people. Perhaps i will have a week when i feel really burned out and i won't want to spend any of my free time on anyone but me.

LOL Believe me buddy i don't even get back what i put in, let alone more than what i put in.

I agree we should all watch out for one another, but that has to be by choice, not by force. If it is forced, it is not heartfelt. You can not force people to care about each other, i don't know about you, but i don't want anyone watching out for me because they are forced to do it. What you're preaching here is socialism, sorry but i have a severe allergy to socialism.

So your way of achieving this change is to side with the very people that are taking advantage

reply to post by asafum08


If you come on here speaking like an elitest and admit that you agree with these same elitest, of course people are going to believe that you are an elitest.

Nature can take care of any population problems just fine by herself, if humans would just let it run it's course, it manages the animal world just fine when we don't mess with it.

reply to post by chise61


I believe you are taking the opposing side to this argument as an opposition to what ever agenda that may be out there, but you are missing the points that i try to bring light to.

1. If there were reincarnation then we would be investing in our own future so to say. Suppose for instance that there were only so may souls to go around, whether or not NOW was our time to live wouldn't matter as reincarnation would state that we have another time to live as well so we can place our positive input into this time and have the future to live in as well so that all of our time could be of positive influence to ourselves. ( i honestly only added this to show incentive for beings to do good for others.)

2. No, Desirable traits would be those that could ensure survival of our species. Altruism (caring or taking action to advance the life of others) is obviously one of them.

3.No one is saying that you cant know English, and like i stated before i don't know exactly what language it would be.

5.Like i said before i cant pretend to know what is best for all of humanity so i will not pretend to know what laws should be implemented.

6. again i do not pretend to know this, i would imagine that they "weed" us out by family, but like i said before a world court would handle any affair that extended itself past national borders/laws.

8. humans and animals fit in the same category, whatever time is spent, is spent helping humans and animals advance in the same manner. Like i said numerous times before, i don not have ALL the answers in regard to this manner. None of us get back what we put in, but i believe it is because ewe always expect an immediate response to what we put in.