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The world is being divided up by the three major Theocracies

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posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 08:31 AM
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Theocracies rule much of the world now. The Vatican, Israel, and Islam

Every country is fair game, those that haven’t already been taken over by one of these three religions that is.
Europe and the Americas are the main battlegrounds now. In America, it remains a subtle battle for now.

Christianity rules America but that is changing. America is fertile ground for all beliefs and religion so the most determined one will win.

Iran is a good example of a Theocracy, a few decades ago is was a democracy.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 08:35 AM
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And what theocracy rules over India and China? That together are almost half of world population by the way...
There are power blocks, but what separates them is not only religion. It is a complex of social,cultural,economical,religious and historical differences.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
And what theocracy rules over India and China? That together are almost half of world population by the way...


China is ruled by Communist, which is just as bad as any Theocracy.

In India Hinduism and Buddhism for now, but Islam eventually.


There are power blocks, but what separates them is not only religion. It is a complex of social,cultural,economical,religious and historical differences.


They say the only constant is change, and change is happening. Who would have believed two decades ago that Communist China would get in bed with Capitalism?



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 09:06 AM
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en.wikipedia.org...
www.adherents.com...

Hinduism and Buddhism are not going to become Islam! Agnostics are increasing in numbers, not the other way around. Judaism is less than a quarter of 1 percent of the world's population.

Given, Israel seems to be at the heart of a lot of the world's turmoil, but it is not a significant religion when it comes to pure numbers!

If you listed GREED, or BANKERS, as one of the theologies, I would have been right there with you! But I can't agree with the three you cited.

Christianity is a passive theocracy these days, even the Vatican is fairly quiet on the world stage. Islam vs. Judaism is a big issue, but only in the Middle East, it really doesn't figure into China, Russia, or the US population's interests. It just makes good headlines for our greedy MSM. And the third largest religion, Hinduism, is so peaceful and quiet, that most people don't even know they are the third largest!! Add in Buddhism, Bahia and Agnostics, and that style of enlightenment competes for the number one spot!!

In summary, most of the struggle in the Middle East is over oil, most of the MSM headlines are about selling their news, so the only theocracy that matters is MONEY!!!!



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 09:16 AM
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makes more sense to me to bundle judaism and christianity together into judeo-christianity, as it seems a pretty strong alliance.

also, what about the Hindus?? And there are a lot of Buddhist-types too, particularly in China.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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I see Theocracy differently.

To me theocracy is when God is in charge and everyone is spiritually enlightened and just and right and no corruption and so on.

Not a bunch of religions representing God, ran by unenlightened people.

2 different things in my book



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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en.wikipedia.org...
www.adherents.com...

Hinduism and Buddhism are not going to become Islam! Agnostics are increasing in numbers, not the other way around. Judaism is less than a quarter of 1 percent of the world's population.


I disagree, remember when Taliban destroyed two huge and ancient Buddha statues: en.wikipedia.org...
I little bit of violence and intimidation has changed many people's religion overnight.


Given, Israel seems to be at the heart of a lot of the world's turmoil, but it is not a significant religion when it comes to pure numbers!


It don’t need to be large, the Vatican is a small country and yet they rule over large parts of the world, including America. Israel has power only because it has clout in America, and that is quite a lot of power.


If you listed GREED, or BANKERS, as one of the theologies, I would have been right there with you! But I can't agree with the three you cited.


That has been the easy and preferred scapegoat, now hasn’t it. Even bankers will not argue that point in public. Socialist know best how to divided and conquer attack money, because so many people fall for that scheme.


Christianity is a passive theocracy these days, even the Vatican is fairly quiet on the world stage. Islam vs. Judaism is a big issue, but only in the Middle East, it really doesn't figure into China, Russia, or the US population's interests. It just makes good headlines for our greedy MSM. And the third largest religion, Hinduism, is so peaceful and quiet, that most people don't even know they are the third largest!! Add in Buddhism, Bahia and Agnostics, and that style of enlightenment competes for the number one spot!!


The more passive and peaceful the easier to infiltrate and take over. Only the strong aggressive religions will dominate. Originally that is how Christianity became so powerful.


In summary, most of the struggle in the Middle East is over oil, most of the MSM headlines are about selling their news, so the only theocracy that matters is MONEY!!!!


“All” of the struggle in the Middle East goes back thousands of years way before oil entered the picture. Most educated people should know that. Some do but pretend they don’t. Oil is more inflammatory, get it inflammatory



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by eniac
makes more sense to me to bundle judaism and christianity together into judeo-christianity, as it seems a pretty strong alliance.


They are together only for convenient reasons, politics, money and power. In reality they are like oil and water in their beliefs about god, Jesus and salvation and their true beliefs that god prefers them over the other.

Apparently, the almighty and loving God, Jesus or Allah has preferences on who he will hang out with.


also, what about the Hindus?? And there are a lot of Buddhist-types too, particularly in China.


For now but unlikely in the future, when more aggressive type religions and beliefs move in.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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“All” of the struggle in the Middle East goes back thousands of years way before oil entered the picture. Most educated people should know that. Some do but pretend they don’t. Oil is more inflammatory, get it inflammatory


You got me there, but at least it was tribal warfare on horseback.


Now we have global powers stepping in and riling up the religious conflicts to accomplish their own ends, and it becomes a global conflict! I could feud with my neighbor for decades with no real injury, but put oil on our property line and back each of us with a company that wants that oil, and now we have some serious warfare!



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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“All” of the struggle in the Middle East goes back thousands of years way before oil entered the picture. Most educated people should know that. Some do but pretend they don’t. Oil is more inflammatory, get it inflammatory


You got me there, but at least it was tribal warfare on horseback.


The crusaders and their bankers made millions during their Middle Eastern ventures and oil had nothing to do with it. Killing and stealing what others had was the way of life throughout all of history. Nothing has changed, perhaps it never will.


Now we have global powers stepping in and riling up the religious conflicts to accomplish their own ends, and it becomes a global conflict! I could feud with my neighbor for decades with no real injury, but put oil on our property line and back each of us with a company that wants that oil, and now we have some serious warfare!


Well then, play it safe and put up a wind turbine in your backyard


If the middle east didn't have oil to feed their people with, the place would be a much worse hell hole than it is now. Oil being their main if not only export of any value.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 01:06 PM
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Well then, play it safe and put up a wind turbine in your backyard

If the middle east didn't have oil to feed their people with, the place would be a much worse hell hole than it is now. Oil being their main if not only export of any value.


I will be entirely off-grid by Christmas!
Thanks for asking!

You supported my point that it was more greed than religion. Religion is a means to an end. The end is control and money!

I have often hypothesized that we buy all the Middle East's oil while leaving our reserves untapped simply because we can! It is a terrific strategy. As you put it, it is their only resource, so we might as well buy it while we are able, and when it is used up, we can look to our own reserves, or our technological breakthroughs, but they will be SOL! They have no options! If I were them, I would not sell it to us quite so fast.



posted on Jun, 22 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by dominicus
I see Theocracy differently.

To me theocracy is when God is in charge and everyone is spiritually enlightened and just and right and no corruption and so on.


Then god shouldn't have created competing religions. Most of the wars and hate in this world are between the three major religions. What was god thinking?


Not a bunch of religions representing God, ran by unenlightened people.

2 different things in my book


Spirituality is an individual thing; it can't be forced on people. Not even god would try something so silly.

And yet many of our clergy demand that we pray and bow down to a higher being. Or more likely that is how clergy take control of people. It's worked beautifully in the past and still does today. Granted, there are many people that want to be controlled or taken care of. That's why the clergy has easy pickings.



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