Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter - Will we finally see the Moon Base?

Is anybody watching it?
The playback might provoke discussions on video editing technologies available, I just want someone to see it live

Meh, i missed the live video aswell, well i havo to comfort myself with LCROSS Tweets.

twitter.com...

edit: wait it says,

Video stream coverage will begin approximately 5:10 a.m. PDT (1:10 p.m. GMT) on Tuesday, June 23, 2009. Please reload page after 5:10 a.m.

ITS GOING LIVE NOW !
live video on NASA website


NICE VIEW OF THE MOON !!

"I am staring at Mendeleev (Lat 5.7N,Lon 140.9E), a large ancient impact basin with uniform floor deposits.
1 minute ago from web " /Twitter feed

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NASA cut video feed.

"- electrical system .." "electrical system performance" ..

Seems to be back online again.

THIS IS THE FAR SIDE LIVE !! (8713 km from the moon)

"Mendeelev is on the far side of the Moon (not seen from Earth).
2 minutes ago from web"

"The uniformity of Mendeleev provides a good calibration target for my down-looking instruments.
3 minutes ago from web"

twitter.com...


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I'm becoming a little angry about that LOIRP:

They're doing a great job! Thank you!

BUT

Until now they posted only a little little box, at 100% resolution, on their site, inside this image only:

images.spaceref.com...

And the datail level it's amazing, as you can see.
At that resolution, artifacts (human or not) will be clearly visible, exactly what we dreamd of for a very long time.....

BUT

"LOIRP Note: We will be putting the full resolution version of this image on the NASA Lunar Science Institute website with the layers preserved for Photoshop for all you folks to have fun with! We only ask that you send us copies of what you do and credit us if you publish it anywhere."

NASA?

The airbrushing specialists?

Not to an idependent entity (too)?

Wow! what a goal!

All this work done, restoring what probably is *the only untouched source material from the moon* (due to the exotic type of analog recording used)....

....And then you send all to.......NOTHING ?

Not need to say that until now NOTHING is present on that obscure nasa site they mentioned.....

lunarscience.arc.nasa.gov...

And, even if someday some scarce information will surface on that corporation's site, surely it will be not much more affordable than all the past nasa lunar production.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by mystr]

@mystr
I'm sorry but what are you talking about?
It is what we have all been dreaming of. I failed to see the cynicism in your post if there is any...

Close ups of the Lunar Limb but not the far side surface, i guess its just calibration manouvers at this moment. The LRO will orbit the moon and collect data for more than a year.

(LCROSS will impact the moon on october 8, 2009 from a high angle, as we all know by now).

Twitter feed LRO
twitter.com...

"I am now in orbit about the moon!! :-)
about 3 hours ago from web
The moon has capture me! I am there! :-)
about 3 hours ago from web
I am now 450km above the moon....
about 3 hours ago from web"

Seems everything was a success, hop.


[edit on 2009/6/23 by reugen]

Originally posted by bilb_o
@mystr
I'm sorry but what are you talking about?
It is what we have all been dreaming of. I failed to see the cynicism in your post if there is any...

Whats' unclear?

I do expect nothing from modern day missions like this Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, but something from those old tapes -as i said- yes.

And i think i've been clear about what my complaints are.

Lack of details 'til now and even a worse prospective for the furure.
A good chance (maybe the only), lost.

What's unclear?


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What is unclear is this time we are not limited to pre-edited pics but we are presented with live video stream and I don't understand all your arguments about everything being lost already.

In no way I'm trying to discredit your opinions. It's just that I'm quite enthusiastic about this mission and I have been feeling that disclosure is coming and they might start warming us up with the information being presented here.

By the way I was unable to watch it 'cause our IT blocks all video streams, so maybe the live stream was just crude and couldn't have provided anything significant anyway. If so, you can disregard everything I said. I just based my enthusiasm on the assumption of a decent quality live video of the back of the moon where they wouldn't be able to hide bases, cities, UFOs sweeping in etc. if there are any.


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Well, as the LCROSS did its swing around the moon to continue its high orbit they did zoom in on the moon as much as they could, distance was something like 8000km (see twitter feed of LCROSS). To me the live video stream was great, i could see all the craters on the far side live and it was awesome,

yep it's illegal to crash stuff into the Moon ! NASA is a criminal

NASA Bombing of the Moon may create conflict with ET's, UFO's

If the true intent of the LCROSS mission moon bombing is a hostile act by NASA against known extraterrestrial civilizations and settlements on the moon, then NASA and by extension the U.S. government are guilty of aggressive war which is the most serious of war crimes under the U.N. Charter and the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is subject. The U.N. Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. has ratified, requires that “ The moon and other celestial bodies shall be used by all States Parties to the Treaty exclusively for peaceful purposes. The establishment of military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military manoeuvres on celestial bodies shall be forbidden.” 98 nations have ratified and 125 nations have signed the U.N. Outer Space Treaty.

Article 7 of the Moon Treaty

“1. In exploring and using the moon, States Parties shall take measures to prevent the disruption of the existing balance of its environment whether by introducing adverse changes in that environment, by its harmful contamination through the introduction of extra-environmental matter or otherwise. States Parties shall also take measures to avoid harmfully affecting the environment of the earth through the introduction of
extraterrestrial matter or otherwise.

“2. States Parties shall inform the Secretary-General of the United Nations of the measures being adopted by them in accordance with paragraph 1 of this article and shall also, to the maximum extent feasible, notify him in advance of all placements by them of radio-active materials on the moon and of the purposes of such placements.

“3. States Parties shall report to other States Parties and to the Secretary-General concerning areas of the moon having special scientific interest in order that, without prejudice to the rights of other States Parties, consideration may be given to the designation of such areas as international scientific preserves for which special protective arrangements are to be agreed upon in consultation with the competent bodies of the United Nations.”

Although the U.S. has not ratified the Moon Treaty, 13 nations have, and it can be construed as a relevant international standard of what constitutes “international law” under the U.N. Outer Space Treaty.

Is NASA’s LCROSS bombing of the moon a camouflaged attack or attempt to impose moon sovereignty by the U.S.?

macedoniaonline.eu...

The Japan Aerospace and Exploration Agency (JAXA) has released high-definition video captured by the Kaguya moon probe moments before crashing onto the lunar surface on June 11.

www.pinktentacle.com...

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
We

You are NASA?

wZn

I meant "we" as in the human race.

I usually say "NASA", but since Zorgon used "we" in the post to which I was responding, I simply followed his lead.

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Originally posted by mystr
I'm becoming a little angry about that LOIRP:

Something to consider...

NASA Unveils 42-Year-Old Historic Lunar Image

Briefing participants are:
- S. Pete Worden, Ames Research Center Director
- Greg Schmidt, Deputy Director, NASA Lunar Science Institute, NASA Ames
- Dennis Wingo, Image Recovery Project Lead, Huntsville, Ala.
- Charles J. Byrne, Lunar Image Expert, Middletown, N.J.

www.nasa.gov...

Pete Warden...

Dr. Simon P. ("Pete") Worden (Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.) (born 1949, in Michigan) is Director of NASA's Ames Research Center (ARC) at Moffett Field, Calif. Before joining NASA, he held several positions in the United States Air Force and was research professor of astronomy at the University of Arizona, Tucson. He is a recognized expert on space issues – both civil and military. Dr. Worden has authored or co-authored more than 150 scientific papers in astrophysics, space sciences, and strategic studies. He served as a scientific co-investigator for two NASA space science missions, and received the NASA Outstanding Leadership Medal for the 1994 Clementine mission. He has been named the 2009 Federal Laboratory Consortium Laboratory Director of the Year.

en.wikipedia.org...

So ummm you were expecting different?

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
I usually say "NASA", but since Zorgon used "we" in the post to which I was responding, I simply followed his lead.

Ah but my 'we' is the Royal "We" Have to stay in character you know

So did anybody record it? Haven't looked yet if they are replaying it..

reply to post by easynow


Hi,

Realise that you and others have posted the final moments of the Japanese probe but have opened another thread with a link to Daily Mail (UK) which has a couple of photos which may interest memeber of this thread......

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Peace!

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What he was referring to was LOIRP not LRO... The Lunar Orbiter tape reclamation that promised so much...

From a story that was leaked to me and opened up a big can of worms when we posted it here at ATS (but got me some really cool contacts )

McMoon

I don't think they were aware of just how fast news spreads through ATS...

Missing Lunar Orbiter Tapes Found
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Technically they were not 'missing' but just 'hidden'

Image Collection: From a Garage to NASA

So a few of us were a little upset that such a record was treated that way...

Hope that helps clear it up... it has nothing to do with the recent LRO mission

Thanks zorgon, that makes sense now. Sorry about the confusion. That looks very interesting, I'll read the whole story in a while. But before that...

If the videos and the new pictures don't reveal anything do you guys think it will debunk the whole "moon base" theories? I mean I wouldn't trust the photos either but I was surely expecting something, anything from the videos.

I think if the disclosure ever happens it won't be straightforward acceptance. They can't just come out and say "yeah we've been lying for several decades. sorry about that but you guys were right all along."
They will probably leak some information, maybe a glimpse in a NASA photo and then won't deny it. They'll admit they found it curious and act as if they have no idea about it. Then further investigation will reveal the existence of the extra terrestrial life and they'll act to be as surprised as everyone else.

For me this mission was just perfect for a "discovery" of unknown artifacts or buildings on the moon. If it turns up nothing there will be nothing left to support the theories about the moon bases.

Originally posted by zorgon

Something to consider...

[...]

So ummm you were expecting different?

Hello Zorgon, can you imagine?

From imaginary news:

"...Recent discovered original Lunar Orbiter tapes, containing the first very high resolution images of our moon, and considered of high hystorical importance for the entire humanity, are about to be revived by a work group formed of scientists from various universities all around the U.S. , along with students and volunteers. The project developing will be all of public domain and all the material from the tapes will be made available realtime on the internet, as it comes out from the works. No direct involvement and/or supervision from NASA or the U.S. military are planned."

just dreams..

They are a few people, closed in an abandoned mcdonald, inside a military base, under close supervision of nasa and military.... and they're not even allowed to disclose a full resolution image (that is the only thing people cares about...)

Sad, very sad.

Have you took a look at the site supposed to host the fancy full-res 1-metre detail images?
lunarscience.arc.nasa.gov...
No traces of anything, and the first imges are out from months...

The material contained in those tapes is priceless... and we will never see it, probably.



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Look at this great comparison:

This is the *only* image with a 100% resolution [a little square in the pic] that project LOIRP has ever published from the LO famous '60s tapes:

images.spaceref.com...

Compare it now with the same LO picture from the USGS Lunar Orbiter Digitization Project, labeled triumphally "VERY HIGH RESOLUTION":

astrogeology.usgs.gov...
[warning, 25MB tiff gzip compressed]

Now put the USGS veeery high resolution image at its 100% size and then side-by side with the LOIRP one and see that the USGS one at its 100% size it's only 25% size of LOIRP's one !!

And even the small square with 100% resolution from LOIRP does not seems to me the real maximum resolution achievable.









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Originally posted by mystr
The material contained in those tapes is priceless... and we will never see it, probably.

Well lets not shut the door on that just yet but currently I am exploring 'options' however their release of the Copernicus image has not convinced me they are doing their best

UPDATE

LROC images are not currently available. As spacecraft and instrument commissioning progress we can better predict when LROC will begin imaging. We hope to have LROC images available sometime in early July.

lroc.sese.asu.edu...

Delays... delays... always delays...

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