Iran opposition defies ayatollah, schedules protests on Saturday

I've known many fine Iranians and met others just visiting from Iran. Without exception the are "pro America" and want their situation to end. Iran is not really a Moslem county either -- they like others are victims of invasions of the past ie foreign manipulations. The mullahs (like priests) of Iran and well known to be both pedophiles and homosexuals and held in very low regard.

all protesters are (muslim) believers. most don't hate the ayatollah, they just want to have free elections. nobody is going to kill or hang him, at most just depose him of his powers while keeping him as the spiritual leader.

however ahmadinejad may be executed or at least arrested and shamed publicly to end his career together with his friends who rigged the election.

a popular revolution that would completely change the regime would be a very bad thing for the middle east. having an iran in chaos would be a very bad example for other arab countries and who knows who would rise in the vacuum - it may be worse than what's currently there.

peaceful protests with their wholy book and religious chants will accomplish more inside their country as they will show they want to have their say not kill others and the army/special forces will become villified if they attack. on the other hand violent protesters will kill support for their cause fast and they will be stopped with violence.

let's not forget who the "voice of change" is here... mosavi was quite a bloody ruler in the 1980s and presided over the killing of many of his opponents (i've heard numbers from 1000-7000).

for those "armchair revolutionaries" who love to smell blood on TV should go back to their caves...

reply to post by ReelView

I would provide some evidence before making claims like that, pedophilia is an offense that recieves the death penalty over there. Mullahs are regarded very highly in Iranian society, that is the basis of their power. And Iran is most definitley a resolutely Muslim country, its funding of missionary work is the biggest factor in spreading the Shiite faction around the world. One of the biggest political concerns regarding the former Soviet Republics, many of them tradiationally Muslim like Kazahkstan and Tajikistan, is that the Shiites are beginning to gain a foothold over the Sunnis and are compromising outside access to fuel lines in those regions.

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You numbers are way low, its at least in the high tens of thousands.

Ahmadinejad is basically a mouthpiece for the ruling ayatollahs, he has no more ability to personally make law than the American president. Any ten party bosses can replace himand probably be just as controversial or even worse.

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All of those surrounding countries are essentially dictatorships, thanks for proving the point. All of them also have significant issues regarding political repression and human rights violations.
Looks like th protest only drew about 3000 according to several media outlets, either people were scared off or they are going to pull a bigger one later.

Apparently, they are choosing the route of bloodshed. How sad:

Police block protest site in Tehran, witness says
Story Highlights

1.NEW: Police throw tear gas to deter crowd near Revolution Square, witness says

2.Iranian state-run media reports that opposition protests have been canceled

3.Khamenei denounces protests, says lawbreakers will be held accountable

4.Two of three presidential challengers fail to show up at meeting to discuss election
Link: www.cnn.com...

How insulting to the young smart Iranian people who are standing up for their rights, to suggest this is the work of the USA or the UK.

They're smart enough to know they have a dictatorship and smart enough to want freedom.

I hope they succeed.

Lady from inside Iran,

Roads closed, blocked Internet and satellite unable to access outside news sources, people not backing down, ages 30 and under feel they have nothing to lose, roads closed, at least 20,000 troops on street, Martial law, stores shut down
secret police dressed as women.

This was a phone conversation relayed live, listening now.

She sound exhausted exasperated and scared, is afraid of blood shed, and says this is only the beginning of things to come, wants people in the world to know, appreciate, support and recognize, and understand the situation.

They don't want another Iraq, however.

Much hate and resentment built up over many years, we have nothing, no future, no jobs, dead end.

There is some opposition with in the government building.

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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
They don't want another Iraq, however.

Much hate and resentment built up over many years, we have nothing, no future, no jobs, dead end.

There is some opposition with in the government building.

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What do you mean by "some opposition in the government building."?

I can't imagine Iran becoming another Iraq. Do you mean in terms of USA invasion?

Young people Chanting, " either we die quick, or we live free."

They want the world to hear,

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Young people Chanting, " either we die quick, or we live free."

They want the world to hear,

Hopefully your friend can sneak some images over.
That was our moto, "live free or die". Sounds almost unbelievable.

Originally posted by Electro38

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
They don't want another Iraq, however.

Much hate and resentment built up over many years, we have nothing, no future, no jobs, dead end.

There is some opposition with in the government building.

Sound fading in and out.

That's it, blocked

What do you mean by "some opposition in the government building."?

I can't imagine Iran becoming another Iraq. Do you mean in terms of USA invasion?

Yes

She said as far as she knows they don't want outside intervention as far as a military action by other nations, but remember this is just one women relaying what she knows, and what she is is hearing from others.

She was still talking about people screaming from roof tops., in defiance.

They want us to know what is happening, however.

Where is the UN?

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I see. Well I couldn't imagine anyone intervening, not even the UN. If there is any intervention it might come as covert help. Just my opinion.

If there really is a revolution there it would have to be seen as a purely Iranian revolution, no outsiders.

What was happening in the "government building"? That's interesting.

Excellent news.

Bout time the Iranians got with the revolution...its been brewing for like 10 years...this might be the tipping point.

Hopefully they dont run out of steam. Still, the west should keep out of it for now, unless there is some sort of proof given that indeed the election was a sham (alot of circumstantial evidence for now, but nothing concrete).

Would we have the same balls in the west if we found out a election was rigged?

nope.

(2000...*cough*....just sayin)

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
She sound exhausted exasperated and scared, is afraid of blood shed, and says this is only the beginning of things to come, wants people in the world to know, appreciate, support and recognize, and understand the situation.

They don't want another Iraq, however.

Much hate and resentment built up over many years, we have nothing, no future, no jobs, dead end.

There is some opposition with in the government building.

Sound fading in and out.

That's it, blocked

latest news i heard there was an explosion near the Khomeimi Mausoleum, a suicide attack...

www.telegraaf.nl...,1

[edit on 20-6-2009 by Foppezao]

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Some people think that so-called suicide attack at the shrine was an orchestrated government diversion. If it happened at all.

Originally posted by Electro38

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Young people Chanting, " either we die quick, or we live free."

They want the world to hear,

Hopefully your friend can sneak some images over.
That was our moto, "live free or die". Sounds almost unbelievable.

Never know, there may be some links come through, but I doubt it.

Iranians disappointed that American government not addressing human rights, wow

Originally posted by Electro38
reply to post by Foppezao

 

Some people think that so-called suicide attack at the shrine was an orchestrated government diversion. If it happened at all.

Or like a "Reichstag bombing" to crack down on the protesters and call for martial law?

[edit on 20-6-2009 by Foppezao]

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Yes, exactly.
This is some strange stuff happening. I feel really sorry for those people.