Alien Word Play

Has anyone ever thought about how the words in UFO lore get twisted and mangled? Sometimes words have a complete separate meaning now then when they were originally concieved.

Let me explain:
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term UFO their brain automatically interprets alien space craft. Now those of us with brains (sorry to offend the brainless, we still love you guys) understand that the term UFO does not mean alien space craft, it simply means unidentified flying object. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but a UFO could be a miriad of different things. Could be an advanced military plane. Could be a satalitte. Could be a bird. It could even actually be an alien spaceship.

Can we all agree? Easy enough.

Lets go another round of this game, shall we?

Let me explain:
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term ALIEN their brain automatically interprets it to mean being from another planet. Now those of us with brains (sorry to offend the brainless, we still love you guys) understand that the term ALIEN does not necessarily mean being from another planet. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but ALIEN could mean a miriad of different things. Could be a person from another country. Could be an idea never thought of before. Could be a bird never seen. It could even be an actual being from another planet.

Can we all agree? I know that's a little bit tougher

Lets really press this word play hard shall we

Let me explain:
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL their brain automatically interprets it to mean ALIEN, which usually in this case means being from another planet. Now this is where this certain word has plagued me. Personally, I never understood how this word could mean being from another planet.

It's very simply, we all learned how to decipher new words by using context clues. Also English is not very clever, most "new terms" are just combonations of old words fit together to make a new meaning.

From what I have found (and it's hard to prove) but the first time this term was used that I've seen was by Carl Sagan in the early 70's. It came into the mass counsciousness in 1982 when Steven Speilburg made "ET the Extra-Terrestrial".

Now this is where it gets confusing and is ALL SPECULATION:

IMO the more proper term would be EXTRA-CELESTIAL, since the term celestial relates to heaven, or the stars.

Definition as given by Merriam-Webster

The term TERRESTRIAL means relating to Earth or planets relating to Earth (those planets being Mercury, Venus, & Mars)

Definition as given by Merriam-Webster

What I personally believe is that these so called ALIENS that we see are not from far off distant places, but from right here on OUR planet (or theirs) or from planets close enough that travel would not be too too terrible. And NO that does not mean others are not from ancient star systems, just listen.

I believe the ALIENS the MSM jokingly refers to actually inhabit our planet as we speak. Most people accept that we as society have not even seen 25% of what our planet has to offer. Not only that but we often hear fanciful myths of beasts living in caves, and to be honest, who in this forum has seriously decided to make an effort into going into caves around this planet?

I believe some high-up elitest pushed the term Extra-Terrestrial to mean from way out in the cosmos to distort the true existence of these creatures. I believe that the higher-ups have known we are not alone on this planet, and used clever word play to trick the masses, such as they have with the term UFO.

I can honestly say that the majority of what people "see" are actually other life forms that inhabit this planet.

JUST A THEORY

I would love to go into how Hitler on his quest to find ancient biblical artifacts ran across these things and thus was able to give the Nazi's 25 years advanced technology during the 30's.

Or how many of the Native Americans in the deserts of Arizona, New Mexico, etc. that believe in such beings FIRST started building their civilizations into actual mountainsides, using the over hanging cliffs as canopies

But alas....for another post, don't want to get to "deep" on a Friday evening ; )



[edit on 19-6-2009 by GeechQuestInfo]

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Well, at first I was a bit put off by your attitude and not quite sure if you were truly intelligent enough to justify having that attitude....but then you pulled it all together and made a fascinating point. Supposedly the reptilians live underground and the greys are bioengineered entities created by our government to carry out abductions and cattle mutilations. Perhaps the Rothschilds take their orders from the Reptilians. If so, that is a bad thing. Good thread.

Oh, and that leaves the Pleidians as the true extracelestrials...only they look just like us. And....the reptilians are native to this planet. I don't know where we supposedly came from according to "the lore".

[edit on 19-6-2009 by MissSmartypants]

Just my belief:

We as humans came from a mixture of "Aliens", and also evolved. It gives credence to the theory of evolution AND creationism.

I believe the "reptillians" or "amphibians" many refer to are some sort of evolved prehistoric dinosaur. I believe that over time beings from elsewhere came to this planet and took on the scientific program of making intelligent life out of animals. It's no secret that this planet is an animal planet. It's all about survival.

These other being's science expirments give some credence to why many beleive that we were "created", because in some sense I believe in the creationism, but the thory of evolution definately makes sense as well.

IMO:
Reptillians/Amphibians= Created by some other beings using the dino's as a base pattern
Humans= Created by some other beings using apes as a base pattern

I know I know I know, it's a stretch, but there are definately some weird anomolies that have yet to be explained.

Dino and Human tracks together? What?

When Hitler went out looking for these "mythical artifacts" he came upon a race of "older" earthlings. These earthlings had been around for millions of years and had furthered their race under the earth.

Reasons for believing this:

1) The Nazi technology has been proven to be more advanced than that of any other nation during WW2. Google "die glocke"

2) The Nazi scientists have been proven to have been relinquished of all war crimes and brought to the USA. Google "operation paperclip"

3) The places on this planet reported to have "alien" encounters usually occur in remote places next to some sort of hill/mountain.

4) The Earth has a circumfrence of roughly 24,000 miles, out of which our society has merely dug 7 miles into.

5) The Hollow Earth theory

Again, this story goes much much MUCH deeper, and to all of those paying attention, more and more of the Nazi UFO connection is being brought up on TV. IE: UFO Hunters: Nazi UFO's aired on 4/22/09 (fairly recent) and also a show I caught on History International last night titled The Alien Presence on Earth or something along those lines.

These show's are basically "proving" that the Nazi's had some sort of "space" program, but thats as far as I will go for now.

I hope that any interested spend an hour or two doing some quick SERIOUS investigating about the claims I've just made.

I would love to be proven wrong, and invite all of you to show evidence of why this theory doesn't work as I'm having a hard time accepting it myself

MissSmartyPants:

Just between you and me, I don't think cattle mutilations are performed by aliens. I think it's how the US tracks the spread of Mad Cow. We as society are not told because beef sales are one of the most profitable to those who own farms.

If society knew that our cows had mad cow disease they MAY boycott beef thus hurting the food industry pretty bad.

Are we so ignorant to think that the cows in the good ol' USA are somehow immune to mad cow?

Columbus brought our cows over from Europe. So why would the cows, which originated in the same place, in Europe have mad cow but the American cows somehow don't?

To me it doesn't add up

Don't believe our livestock was brought over? It's okay, read this

good point, great find S&F. Many people, don't realize how many words are misinterpreted in all languages. That's why, I wonder is white really white, or is it really black? We only know what TPTB want us to know.

Awesome post! I hope everyone who looks at this thread, does research what was posted in this thread, in not only the op, but the latter response!!! Geez, its amazing how far we have gone in this field in the last 20 years. I read books 15 years ago and all it spoke of was betty and barny hill! Now we have research going into old Nazi Crafts and what have you. great job, star and flag for sure!

Originally posted by GeechQuestInfo
Just my belief:

I know I know I know, it's a stretch, but there are definately some weird anomolies that have yet to be explained.

Dino and Human tracks together? What?

When Hitler went out looking for these "mythical artifacts" he came upon a race of "older" earthlings. These earthlings had been around for millions of years and had furthered their race under the earth.

Reasons for believing this:

1) The Nazi technology has been proven to be more advanced than that of any other nation during WW2. Google "die glocke"

2) The Nazi scientists have been proven to have been relinquished of all war crimes and brought to the USA. Google "operation paperclip"

3) The places on this planet reported to have "alien" encounters usually occur in remote places next to some sort of hill/mountain.

4) The Earth has a circumfrence of roughly 24,000 miles, out of which our society has merely dug 7 miles into.

5) The Hollow Earth theory

Again, this story goes much much MUCH deeper, and to all of those paying attention, more and more of the Nazi UFO connection is being brought up on TV. IE: UFO Hunters: Nazi UFO's aired on 4/22/09 (fairly recent) and also a show I caught on History International last night titled The Alien Presence on Earth or something along those lines.

These show's are basically "proving" that the Nazi's had some sort of "space" program, but thats as far as I will go for now.

I hope that any interested spend an hour or two doing some quick SERIOUS investigating about the claims I've just made.

I would love to be proven wrong, and invite all of you to show evidence of why this theory doesn't work as I'm having a hard time accepting it myself

Thank You and i will MOST DEFINETLY research with an open mind i already know that all of this sounds crazy, BUT seriously if there is a devil he will be evil, crazy, and unimaginable... So IMO Everything is possible I just PRAY for the BEST and PREPARE for the WORST!!

I believe that the knowledge in this thread, and to the knowledge I pray gets added to it by any who care to add (and I beg those SERIOUS to add to it) will in a few years be in the common culture.

I really hope those who read do just that. READ. We learned that in school the best thing we can do is listen. Many on this site have been listening for a long time, waiting for the right time to talk.

That time is soon approaching.

So those of you that can either prove or disprove any of this specualtion please please please please speak up now and do so.

It's time for those who have been talking to sit down and listen and those who have been listening to stand up and talk.

Not to be a narcissistic but why do the posts that contain jokes get a lot of views and comments but then serious stuff such as this post doesn't?

Has this planet been so dumbed down it can't even handle looking or replying to something with an ounce of intelligence?

Hmmmmmm....must be an ATS conspiracy.

I swear this site might as well be Below Top Secret because it's hard to find and legit posts on serious topics.

Originally posted by GeechQuestInfo
Has anyone ever thought about how the words in UFO lore get twisted and mangled? Sometimes words have a complete separate meaning now then when they were originally concieved.

Let me explain:
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term UFO their brain automatically interprets alien space craft. Now those of us with brains (sorry to offend the brainless, we still love you guys) understand that the term UFO does not mean alien space craft, it simply means unidentified flying object. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but a UFO could be a miriad of different things. Could be an advanced military plane. Could be a satalitte. Could be a bird. It could even actually be an alien spaceship.

Can we all agree? Easy enough.

Lets go another round of this game, shall we?

Let me explain:
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term ALIEN their brain automatically interprets it to mean being from another planet. Now those of us with brains (sorry to offend the brainless, we still love you guys) understand that the term ALIEN does not necessarily mean being from another planet. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but ALIEN could mean a miriad of different things. Could be a person from another country. Could be an idea never thought of before. Could be a bird never seen. It could even be an actual being from another planet.

Can we all agree? I know that's a little bit tougher

Lets really press this word play hard shall we

Let me explain:
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL their brain automatically interprets it to mean ALIEN, which usually in this case means being from another planet. Now this is where this certain word has plagued me. Personally, I never understood how this word could mean being from another planet.

It's very simply, we all learned how to decipher new words by using context clues. Also English is not very clever, most "new terms" are just combonations of old words fit together to make a new meaning.

From what I have found (and it's hard to prove) but the first time this term was used that I've seen was by Carl Sagan in the early 70's. It came into the mass counsciousness in 1982 when Steven Speilburg made "ET the Extra-Terrestrial".

Now this is where it gets confusing and is ALL SPECULATION:

IMO the more proper term would be EXTRA-CELESTIAL, since the term celestial relates to heaven, or the stars.

Definition as given by Merriam-Webster

The term TERRESTRIAL means relating to Earth or planets relating to Earth (those planets being Mercury, Venus, & Mars)

Definition as given by Merriam-Webster

What I personally believe is that these so called ALIENS that we see are not from far off distant places, but from right here on OUR planet (or theirs) or from planets close enough that travel would not be too too terrible. And NO that does not mean others are not from ancient star systems, just listen.

I believe the ALIENS the MSM jokingly refers to actually inhabit our planet as we speak. Most people accept that we as society have not even seen 25% of what our planet has to offer. Not only that but we often hear fanciful myths of beasts living in caves, and to be honest, who in this forum has seriously decided to make an effort into going into caves around this planet?

I believe some high-up elitest pushed the term Extra-Terrestrial to mean from way out in the cosmos to distort the true existence of these creatures. I believe that the higher-ups have known we are not alone on this planet, and used clever word play to trick the masses, such as they have with the term UFO.

I can honestly say that the majority of what people "see" are actually other life forms that inhabit this planet.

JUST A THEORY

well, regarding UFO you are absolutely right. The term now has a very strong association with "craft piloted by extraterrestrials" in the english language now, and essentially means that and not Unidentified Flying Object because of this. I, personally, like the term "UO" (Unidentified Object) when referring to something unidentified without bringing up that assosciation.

Alien, it depends on who you speak to - this is more cultural. It is still used often to refer to immigrants and the notion of something "unusual" or "unexpected", like "illegal alien" or "his logic was completely alien to me". However, a lot of people will jump to the conclusion that you are referring to an ET when you use the term in ambiguous context.

And regarding Extraterrestrial, I feel the word does work. It means something not of this earth - "Extra" being outside and "Terrestrial" being Earth or Earthly. There is no real ambiguity, but you can refer to a meteorite as extraterrestrial and it is still valid. I'm a little hesitant to use the term Extracelestial because what if, say, microbial life was discovered under Europa's ice sheets? It is extraterrestrial in that case, but not extracelestial as it is still part of our solar system.

And regarding intelligent life on our planet - It is very very possible in the ocean. In fact I have entertained the idea that dolphins are in reality more itnelligent than we are, but their nature and culture does not lend itself to building things - they just cant - and that is really how we measure intelligence. This all started when I read a study that proved that not only is dolphin communication *vastly* more complex than human communication, but they seem to be able to communicate in high pitched short range noises with their pod while *simultaneously* communicating with long-range deep noises with other pods. Their brains can hold two conversations at once. I wish I could dig that article up for you guys, it is an amazing read.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by JScytale]

You did it again. Send my afternoon on a dolphin brain hunt which should bring up some very interesting things.

As far as microbial life under the ice sheets of Europa, that would be classified as celestial by definition right?

Terrestrial-

belonging to the class of planets that are like the earth (as in density and silicate composition)

I'm not sure actually how to classify Europa, but great point either way.

I personally believe that the term was given to society as a way to sort of "lead astray" those who would dare venture to see if this earth was inhabbited by anything other than humans. But by calling these "aliens" extra terrestrial, you still leave the plausible deniability window open so that if it was ever found out that this planet DID have other inhabitants and it was also found that TPTB HAVE known about these creatures, the public would have no legal recourse.

If disclosure ever does happen, and TPTB are caught having lied to us, the legal actions taken would be an issue all to itself.

Plausible deniability gives you an "exit stage right" in the legal world if you will.

personally I find the idea of terrestrially evolved underground intelligent species to be *highly* unlikely. There isn't much of a biosphere down there compared to the surface, so having evolved intelligence for those conditions is unlikely - on the surface it was needed to avoid predators and hunt successfully.

as for more advanced life retreating underground - why? if they were more 'advanced' they could easily have out competed us like we out competed the neanderthals and kept their stake in their ideal environment. They would have no reason to retreat to a disadvantageous one.

this is why i believe that *if* there is intelligent life on the same level as human intelligence on our planet, it is without a doubt in the ocean. the biosphere there is larger, more complex, more hostile, and very poorly explored / understood.

[edit on 20-6-2009 by JScytale]

Originally posted by GeechQuestInfo
When the average person (well, what's really average these days) hears the term EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL their brain automatically interprets it to mean ALIEN, which usually in this case means being from another planet. Now this is where this certain word has plagued me. Personally, I never understood how this word could mean being from another planet.

Well its really simple actually

EXTRA in this case means 'outside'
TERRESTRIAL comes from TERRA which literally means Earth as in Terra firma the ground beneath your feet

So if a hypothetical being is from OUTSIDE this EARTH most people with even a small brain tend to assume that a being from outside the earth would live on some other planet... whether that planet is Mars or outside the solar system

However there are TWO other examples that would qualify a being as ET that does not require another planet

A) God and the Heavenly host are not of this Earth therefore true ET's yet I don't thing anyone claims such deities live on another planet

B) CRITTERS... plasma based life forms that exist in space. These would also be ET but not live on a planet, though they do interact with Earth's atmosphere and I have it from a remote viewing team that they have been spotted on Venus

Hope that clears you confusion.. but we still like you



Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam





[edit on 20-6-2009 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon
Well its really simple actually

EXTRA in this case means 'outside'
TERRESTRIAL comes from TERRA which literally means Earth as in Terra firma the ground beneath your feet

So if a hypothetical being is from OUTSIDE this EARTH most people with even a small brain tend to assume that a being from outside the earth would live on some other planet... whether that planet is Mars or outside the solar system

However there are TWO other examples that would qualify a being as ET that does not require another planet

A) God and the Heavenly host are not of this Earth therefore true ET's yet I don't thing anyone claims such deities live on another planet

B) CRITTERS... plasma based life forms that exist in space. These would also be ET but not live on a planet, though they do interact with Earth's atmosphere and I have it from a remote viewing team that they have been spotted on Venus

Hope that clears you confusion.. but we still like you

ignoring the fact both your examples have no basis in evidence whatsoever and getting strictly to the point - extra terrestrial simply refers to anything from beyond our planet. so yes, both are extraterrestrial. it does not specifically refer to from another planet.

Jscytale

personally I find the idea of terrestrially evolved underground intelligent species to be *highly* unlikely. There isn't much of a biosphere down there compared to the surface, so having evolved intelligence for those conditions is unlikely - on the surface it was needed to avoid predators and hunt successfully

The fact is we only "assume" to know what is under our feet, we really don't know.

I'll tell you one thing, there are cities in this country that have been rebuilt on top of each other, Seattle is a great example.

We have only been 7 miles deep into our "crust".

I for one have not been in any deep caverns.

I do find it odd though that the "first" homo sapien creatures that we learn about in school were called CAVEMEN.

Did man originate in caves? I say yes, but I'm willing to go out on the crazy limb and say we came outta the caves because that's where the other race or race's that helped us become intelligent creatures is and stays.

Just my opinion

[edit on 20-6-2009 by GeechQuestInfo]

February 27, 2007

A giant blob of water the size of the Arctic Ocean has been discovered hundreds of miles beneath eastern Asia, scientists report.

Researchers found the underground "ocean" while scanning seismic waves as they passed through Earth's interior.

news.nationalgeographic.com...

I'm sorry Zorgon but the purpose of that post?

Is it to prove an ocean is hundred of miles beneath our feet?

Explanation please

[edit on 20-6-2009 by GeechQuestInfo]

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That would be the purpose, yes