12-year-old to be sentenced for rape

Sociopath's behavior begins at that age often.

Because he is a Minor, they will ignore the fact he has an incurable mental disease that has physical and chemical causes and is not a behavioral problem. They will let him go in a few years and some innocent people will pay the price.

What should happen? Life in an Institution to protect the public and humane treatment. It won't happen though. They will let him hurt more people and keep letting him go.

Parents should be removed from the mix. Parents are not emotionally able to deal with the fact their own children are sociopaths (psychopaths).

Originally posted by Harlequin
so in the other thread , many people , including som here were calling for death to pedo`s , no chanc at rehab , they`ll allways be like this;


and now because a peedo is 12 - you think he can be `fixed`

make up your minds will ya.

It sounds link those that have a dog in the hunt for letting "peedo's" do their thing to society will use a 12 year old to further their agenda. Cute name you have there for the sickos of society there...

If you can't see the difference between a 12 year old that rapes someone and an adult we know exactly what your agenda is. And yes, I say slow cruel execution for pedophiles or any adult that rapes anyone.

The person doesn't have to be a pedophile to be killed. If you have a wife or daughters then you may understand. Society may not agree with killing someone for rape. That is until it happens to them or theirs.

I say kill all rapists and pedophiles. This child I think we wil find was abused and if he can be helped then so be it. If he reaches legal age and offends again I say kill him to...

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
and thus it is justified for him because he has feelings of lust.
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And so it is justified in his mind because of feelings of revence.

Ah, but dont you see, its still not justified in his mind. Lets say she killed his brother, say, revenge would be taking her life. That would be justification in his mind, at least at first, I bet you anything later on he regrets it. Raping her would be taking it one step further though. Its like the tv show on the Simpsons, ME WANTEE! Simple 'I want it I get it' psychology.

Originally posted by Kaytagg
Actually rape is natural in the animal kingdom, and it happens across many species, including our own.

I guess it's an effective propagation technique..

So... this 12 year old boy was trying to procreate with his brother?
Whoops... think it through before trying to defame me.
Besides, animals commit cannibalism, would that make it right for humans too?

Edit to add: Where is your messiah now? Muahahahhaahahah

Who said I have a messiah? And if I do I have no idea, I will let you know when they show up

Originally posted by Donnie Darko

Originally posted by Harlequin
so in the other thread , many people , including som here were calling for death to pedo`s , no chanc at rehab , they`ll allways be like this;


and now because a peedo is 12 - you think he can be `fixed`


make up your minds will ya.

It's because they're ageist.

I believe he should be given a peaceful nap... into oblivion. I DO NOT believe that he can be "FIXED". He is a rapist. He raped a baby because he was "horny" ... his words to his father.

His family history should be looked into. The children of that household need to be checked over with a fine tooth comb to see of there is continued abuse. USUALLY, a child acts out on what was done to him. SOMEONE taught him that was ok. He will never think different.

Put him out of his misery in a humane way. It is not his fault he is what he is... a rapist.

As to the children he raped... THEY need EXTENSIVE therapy to help them understand and realize the validity of their being a victim in this from someone they completely trusted.

Someone needs to pay for this child's loss of innocence. I have a hard time believing he came into the world this way. I would hope not.

Again... Put him out of his misery in a humane way. Let him go to sleep and not wake up. It is not his fault he is what he is... a rapist.

Originally posted by Applesandoranges
They make a sexualised society for the kids through tv programs, consumerism, media, magazines etc etc and then we blame the kids.
Farout im sick to death with sex being sold to kids let alone now understanding children committing sexual acts is beyond incredible and only going to show where society leads. This is proof enough sex is being sold to children, which leads to them experimenting. We will see more and more of these repercussions as children are still being sold sex.
Sick!
We need to let go of our carnal nature as we are driving the kids to not leed a normal life but that based on sexuality.
They will grow up thinking sex is the only way they will get anywhere in life,once they hit 30 will regret their actions or continue to be perverted by society's lust for sex sells and subliminal sex symbols.

[edit on 19-6-2009 by Applesandoranges]

I totally agree 1OO% sex sells and the poor children of the world are the victims
I cant WAIT till justice comes to the evil elites in everything they have stirred up

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by operation mindcrime

 

so i asked you
a 12 year old has raped a 4 year old and tried to rape a 3 year old
yet `he only 12 bless him , its the parents fault`
yet if he was 16 he would be executed for his paedophile crimes
so what makes 3 years and 1 day so much different?
what of those aged 12 (and younger) who murder?

Good question!!
In my country (Holland) they introduced a law in 1929 that prohibits children aged 12 and younger to be sentenced in court. Why 12 ,you ask??

The argument back them was that children in this group were not able to properly assess the consequences of their actions.

I think i would be pretty interesting to compare child behaviour from 1929 with children in modern day society.

Now they didn't introduce this law back then for nothing. My guess is they were experiencing the same problem we have today. Society was growing and things that were not acceptable back then were being explored and broken by exactly that age group and so they had more and more cases where the were faced with jailing more and more children under 12.

I pretty sure children from 1929 were exactly the same as kids today by makeup....but the only thing that did change are societies norms and values. It's inherent with children that they will explore and break the moral values of the generation preceiding them.

Now i could make a list of behavioural pattern dating from 1920 up till now with an interval of 10 years and you will see that societies norms and values of what is acceptable shift with every fresh batch of parents raising their kids with their idea of what is right and what is wrong.

Isn't logical that all the things we see today with our kids (beating up their parents, bringing guns to school, having sex at age 10 etc.) are a direct cause of our reaction to the upbringing we enjoyed from our parents??

Ofcourse what this kid did is extreme and unacceptable but with every group you will always have a few that go over the line we set as acceptable. But if we keep moving this line with every generation isn't it logical that things will get more extreme??

Children are not able to properly assess the consequences of their actions. This fact didn't change....

Peace

reply to post by Harlequin


Actually life in prison means exactly that ,here in Holland. You could get a pardon from the queen because you are soon to die from discease or old age but life means life overhere.

Unfortunatly this punishment is being given more and more lately....

Peace

[edit on 20/6/2009 by operation mindcrime]

Originally posted by Ridhya
Ah, but dont you see, its still not justified in his mind. Lets say she killed his brother, say, revenge would be taking her life. That would be justification in his mind, at least at first, I bet you anything later on he regrets it. Raping her would be taking it one step further though. Its like the tv show on the Simpsons, ME WANTEE! Simple 'I want it I get it' psychology.

Huhhh?? I'm really appreciating the discussion here, don't get me wrong but this theory is holding less water with every reply...

Let's see if i i'm still understanding what it is you are saying....

Murder and torture are dispicable too. But justifiable.

Because in the mind of the perpetrator it is justifiable but when a man rapes a woman...

A man lusts after a woman and decides to rape her. Or maybe to get revenge on her. Scarring her for life, making her lose trust, afraid to walk alone, etc etc. How is that anything other than disgusting greed?

How is raping a woman not justifiable in the mind of the perpetrator??

Maybe he was laughed at earlier on in his life by women or had a really twisted mother-son relationship. I'll bet you in the mind of this perpetrator that his act of taking a womans body for his sick fanatsies is very much justified.

"Walking around in those clothes she had it coming", ever hear of that excuse made by a lot of sex offenders. They actually believe they have the right to do what they did.

Scarring her for life, making her lose trust, afraid to walk alone, etc etc.

Now you are talking about the effects of such crime but i really believe that if ,for instance, the CIA lifted you from your bed and waterboarded you because they feel you have valuable information. (Wether you have or haven't got this information, it's justified in their eyes) You'd be scared for the rest of you life aswell, lossing trust in justice and afraid to walk into a policestation etc.

So maybe i'm completly missing your point. But i would really appreciate if you could elaborate on this issue 'cause i really want to understand your point.

Peace

No replies??

D*mn it, i was was really looking forward to your reply Ridhya....

Don't you just hate people with a short attention sp.....he, look at that bird!!

Peace