Timewave Zero - Countdown to Transition

reply to post by Evasius


Brilliant piece of work. Very interesting read. S&F from me.

It's amazing how time works. It seems almost as if a timer was set long ago and it will run out in 2012. As far as the 2012 outcome, it's a toss up. Things can go either way. That would depend on the decisions we make from this point on.

Is it just me, or does it seem like the World is being held hostage in a clandestine sort of way?

Tic-Toc-Tic-Toc time is running out!

[edit on 16-6-2009 by Zeus2573]

So uhh...

What's a time wave?

Do the fact that I *knew* that this was an Evasius post before I even clicked on it show up in the timeline?

I have to admit: it all looks captivating – kudos to the OP.
However, after reading some materials describing Timewave theory, I can’t help but wonder: can anybody explain the theory in a few simple sentences? All the pseudo-scientific language used in Timewave literature makes it really hard to understand the essence.
I have had some training in math and physics, but never met nor heard of a theory that can’t, in a simplified form, be explained to anybody with an average IQ.

Consider this a challenge.

The circled area in the 1700's image marks the beginning of the French Revolution which lasted 10 years. The circled area we're now approaching (June 23-29) represents our re-visiting of that time window in the cycle. The upcoming version will last about 2 months. Given that we are now a global community, this 'revolutionary' theme will likely affect us all, and can manifest anywhere that is capable of being the global conduit of that theme. Iran is one example.

From the French Revolution description on Wiki:

I believe that is the time period in which ABC News gives the reins of control to President Obama to address the nation concerning Health Care.

This in and of itself is a major event.

I am experiencing some novelty myself when I look at these dates.




[edit on 16-6-2009 by whiteraven]

Ok....more thinking out loud here, so forgive me. It all seems to be about what happens at the end of the spiral, and where we go, or don't go, from there. I've been thinking about this in purely visual terms as I'm absolutely not a mathematician, and maybe what we're seeing is not one single event, or an ending, but a complete turning point in our history. I'm trying to explain my picture of where the spiral would go when it gets to such a tight space, and I envision it growing larger again as a negative of itself in the opposite direction, so what we experience beyond that is a mirror image of our history so far. Maybe the zero point marks the height of our "civilisation", and we will start to "regress", although there is a very strong argument for such a regression being a positive thing in some ways.

Is this making sense at all? Where we have peaks of novelty now might correspond to peaks of habit in the opposite spiral. Maybe the spiral and it's mirror image are eternal patterns that repeat endlessly, creating an infinity loop in time. Just a thought.

[edit on 16-6-2009 by caitlinfae]

As always a great thread and possibly one of the most important. While most of my research time comes while at work I cannot download the TWZ software. I know there was a link posted with a web one but I was waiting to see if this matched up to the one the OP was using.

I have had the feeling for a long time that life has been pushed to move faster and faster and there is nothing that we can do about it and through reading about the TWZ i believe that is why. More and more emotional feeling is put into a smaller and smaller time.

There was a post earlier that talked about how wiki degraded this post, but not all of us are history majors and know every little part of history so the tools we have may not be the best but they do help fill in the cracks. If you have another place that is better for history research please provide the link.

These are some of the most important times in human history because we are approaching so many different end points. I only hope that I am around to see the final conclusion of this time.

Originally posted by caitlinfae
...the spiral would go when it gets to such a tight space, and I envision it growing larger again as a negative of itself in the opposite direction

The "opposite direction" could mean humanity divesting itself from technological acceleration towards spiritual development.
Another word: slow down with industry buildup, spend progressively more time on personal development.
Unfortunately, we are so intangled in producing "things" for living, that it would take a major shake-up to change the direction. Abolition of money as means of exchange, anyone?

reply to post by ActuallyActuary


No more money would not solve anything, 90%(guessing don't jump all over the percentage) of the people in developed countries do not know how to produce enough food to survive without the dependence on others. and to get that food we must pay for it some how, human nature is not to work for free. If everyone is to go through this spiritual awaking I think it will be more of a sudden thing and we will be there just due to the logistics of where we are at.

This could be argued that we put ourselves in this position but we did not create the TWZ end point, that is just where it ends and we have no control over that so maybe it has it built in that we will be okay at the end of this time.

Originally posted by Evasius
reply to post by Karlhungis

 

What I do worry about, aside from our tendencies towards self destruction, is that there are certain physical 'fail-safes' that keep developing intelligences from reaching singularity and moving off-planet (like geo-physical, atmospheric, solar events). These would be the equivalent of God kicking over our anthill everytime it gets just a little too high.

That's a real worry for me. That would definitely lead to starting the cycle all over again.

This raises a point with me, so, we're never allowed to leave the planet and explore space/colonize? Then whats the point to existence if we're never allowed to grow up and leave the crib so to speak?

amazing! thanks so much for this post

Originally posted by ActuallyActuary

Originally posted by caitlinfae
...the spiral would go when it gets to such a tight space, and I envision it growing larger again as a negative of itself in the opposite direction

The "opposite direction" could mean humanity divesting itself from technological acceleration towards spiritual development.
Another word: slow down with industry buildup, spend progressively more time on personal development.
Unfortunately, we are so intangled in producing "things" for living, that it would take a major shake-up to change the direction. Abolition of money as means of exchange, anyone?

hmm this zero point sounds more and more like socialism no money, power to the people, less of that selfish capitalism...

seriously though, OP is right. it's going to get BAD. REALLY BAD. by the end of 2009 we will witness deadly floods, earthquakes, tornadoes, droughts, fires, and wars. many people will die and many more will be left without homes. the value of our money will decrease more and more, food prices will increase, gasoline will be very expensive and the GOP will take pride in being "the party of no way!"(TM)

i don't need TWZ to make these predictions and on 1/1/10 you will see i was completely right!

Originally posted by ActuallyActuary
I have to admit: it all looks captivating – kudos to the OP.
However, after reading some materials describing Timewave theory, I can’t help but wonder: can anybody explain the theory in a few simple sentences? All the pseudo-scientific language used in Timewave literature makes it really hard to understand the essence.
I have had some training in math and physics, but never met nor heard of a theory that can’t, in a simplified form, be explained to anybody with an average IQ.

Consider this a challenge.

Basically in a nutshell, time is cyclical not linear. Ironically, we seem to live our lives as a society linearly.

Now if you believe in the idea that time is in fact cyclical, and then understand that everything is a "vibration" so to speak, it's merely as simple as plotting points on a map. We are at the end of this cycle.

Originally posted by Vodo34861
reply to post by ActuallyActuary

 

...No more money would not solve anything.

Elaborate please.
There are plenty of ways to assign a certain value to a certain product, material or not. Money is not NECCESSARY. The main role of money is a redistribution of wealth - no matter what form it takes. To put it another way: money is used to move wealth from the creators of it to others.

Originally posted by Vodo34861
reply to post by ActuallyActuary

 

...we did not create the TWZ end point,

Isn't it an input in the program?

star and flag, keepin my eye on this one, very interesting thank you

There are a number of threads floating around on the board that point to the time between June 21st through 23rd as big possible dates, including one I started. The correlation is all very interesting.

To sum them up, 3.5 years from Dec. 21st, 2012 is June 21st of 2009. 3.5 years is the suspected time for the first half of the Tribulation, as believed by some people.

Your repeating of the revolutionary time would make sense for some type of upheaval.

S & F

Well, it sure would seem as though we're living in interesting times, eh?

I find all of this fascinating. Time as a cyclical concept is not natural to most western experience. There are cultures that have cyclical time embedded in their beliefs. Maybe that is something to learn from.

I've also been following Clif High's ALTA webbots, as they seem to link up, timewise, with Timewave.

Very cool, Evasius. S&F.

Originally posted by OnTheFelt
Basically in a nutshell, time is cyclical not linear. Ironically, we seem to live our lives as a society linearly.

Now if you believe in the idea that time is in fact cyclical, and then understand that everything is a "vibration" so to speak, it's merely as simple as plotting points on a map. We are at the end of this cycle.

Thanks for taking time explaining this.
Cyclical time is not a novel concept, not confirmed scientifically though.
There is a big difference between "believe" and a justifiable assumption. What made this cyclical time concept an acceptable assumption?
Please, no more "vibration " talk...

Originally posted by colonpee

Originally posted by Evasius
reply to post by Karlhungis

 

What I do worry about, aside from our tendencies towards self destruction, is that there are certain physical 'fail-safes' that keep developing intelligences from reaching singularity and moving off-planet (like geo-physical, atmospheric, solar events). These would be the equivalent of God kicking over our anthill everytime it gets just a little too high.

That's a real worry for me. That would definitely lead to starting the cycle all over again.

This raises a point with me, so, we're never allowed to leave the planet and explore space/colonize? Then whats the point to existence if we're never allowed to grow up and leave the crib so to speak?

The point would be that just because you have smarts doesn't mean you have a manifest destiny. There are a countless things that could go wrong that could sink Humanity. If we make it off world and to another star we would have to count ourselves lucky beyond belief. If we want to survive as a Species we have to start thinking about our survival as a Species. Right now we are still to busy throwing poo at each other to address the big picture as one people.

To the OP... how do you expect this 'transition' to even occur in 2012. Without death, there can be no actual transition. Thus, in physical reality.. it would be the ultimate oblivion. With the point reaching infinity in 2012, one can only assume to experience reality in a whole new light.