I am a victim of a hate crime regarding HOMELAND SECURITY

Yes do man-get your claim in and at the same time try get your attorney to subpoena the baggage area security camera tapes. There should not be more than 2 hours of footage between when you checked the bag an it getting on the airplane. You might have to get a few different camera shot as you don’t know exactly where this occurred.

Then I would spread the word in the Media send the claim info to Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, CNN, Fox, Local stations. 60 Minutes, Reutes etc Whoever you can find. Someone’s looking for a story and its all really easy, search online and e-mail them.

Make the claim that Homeland security Allegedly did this as you have the note to Prove it. Home Land Security will try defend them selves and help you find the person that did it to clear their name.

Ply all these people against each other-In the end you will win.

If it all went down as you say it did, the damage was certainly intentional and probably had something to do with your sticker. If you take pictures, sure, send your story to Alex Jones. I'm sure he'd like to hear it, he's probably been collecting similar accounts.

I don't blame you for having the sticker on your laptop. I don't think it's fair to say "you were asking for it". It's probably reasonable to expect some negative attention for such a sticker, the way things currently are. But this is still America.

Sure, it's a controversial sticker. The way I look at it though, it's like wearing a band shirt: shows what you are interested in and may perhaps facilitate a conversation with a like-minded individual that you would not have met otherwise.

Personally, I've never understood why people who believe the official story should become hostile about "9/11 truth". I would think they would see it as a joke and shrug it off. "9/11 was an inside job" should be equal to "Bush is a reptilian shapeshifter", but it isn't for some reason.

Even my dad (a retired steelworker and non-veteran) got upset the first time my husband mentioned how "some people think 9/11 was an inside job", when generally he just laughs at other theories we've introduced.

Anyway, you can call it a "hate crime" if you want to. It is destruction of your property because of your beliefs. I'm not sure what the definition of "hate crime" is, but this is at least political profiling and vandalism. I don't personally think "hate crime" is restricted to race and religion.

Good thing they didn't decide to "take you in the back for questioning".

I was pretty shocked to read about what happened to you.

I have some friends at Homeland Security so I checked with them and they say they know nothing about this...

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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
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FIrst of all that is NOT a hate crime. That is vandalism and if you get an attorney who can prove the chain of events either they or the airline will probably replace the computer to avoid publicity.

Second of all, don't put political slogans on your personal belongings, that calls attention to you, and yes, people will vandalize your stuff if they don't like what you are espousing. Ever see how many cars get vandalized at election time because people don't like their stickers, or have their houses egged when they have signs in front? The knowledge of Homeland Security pulling checks at airports is so well known that it sounds like you put that sticker on their hoping to cause an incident, not many people would be that indiscreet.

Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.

Now that we have that out of the way...

While you are busy giving up your right to free speech, you should give them your gun also. You should also forfeit your right to an attorney. You should get on the next plane to somewhere where it's not okay to speak your mind.

Hopefully, if you've been around ATS long enough you know how to contact John Titor. He can come pick you up in his time machine and take you back to Europe circa 1945. The guy that smashed your laptop will have a job with Hitler waiting for him.

Do you have any reason it would be HS other than the fact that you are a try hard conspirator? I know people who work at airports luggage departments, about 70% of them break #.

Sorry, but something doesn't seem quite right here and my BS-ometer is going off. Here's why:

1. What laptop computer has a glass screen? None, to my knowledge. "glass filled bag and glass filled clothing"...where did the glass come from? Not the laptop screen, which would be a soft LCD.

2. Who here who travels puts their laptop and cell phone in their checked baggage? (Upon opening my bag to empty it out of my clothing, phone, & computer laptop) Everyone I know carries on cell phones and laptop computers (not "computer laptop", which leads to my next point).

3. The usage of English in the OP is a bit odd...("I entered a California based airport"..."Upon opening my bag to empty it out of my clothing, phone, & computer laptop I came to a grim discovery"..."could have taken a really high fall from a high destination"..."diliberatlely punched"..."my computer beared"..."I all know what youre thinking"...and so on. Also, the change from "I" checking in to "we" and "our" upon arrival seems strange. Not in and of itself evidence of anything, but odd nonetheless.

4. "My computer beared a huge sticker which says '9/11 was an inside job.' ...who in their right mind would travel by air with an anti-government slogan about 9/11 prominently displayed? That's just plain dumb , freedom of speech notwithstanding.

To summarize, broken glass from a device that contains no glass, normally carry-on items in checked baggage with big anti-government stickers on display, eloquent but stilted English (as if from a fluent but non-native speaker).

Something just doesn't smell right here...seems like possibly an incitement against Homeland Security and TSA on an already suspicious and borderline paranoid audience (this being a conspiracy-based website, after all). From where I don't know..."topsecretombomb", the OP, simply claims to be a "Cellular automaton" and doesn't divulge his location. Since he (we, our) was flying out of a "California based airport" I presume he is somewhere in California.

I don't like government intrusion any more than anyone else here, but something about this just doesn't seem to add up.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Anyone else think that things don't quite add up?

Originally posted by RR98

1. What laptop computer has a glass screen? None, to my knowledge. "glass filled bag and glass filled clothing"...where did the glass come from? Not the laptop screen, which would be a soft LCD.

This is a valid point, I think. The other points though, imo, could be explained by lack of foresight/critical thinking/language mastery. This one should be answered. Thanks for pointing that out.

Waiting for that answer, as well as pics of broken laptop and DHS note, though I know that would be easy to fake unless the note is on official government letterhead or business card of some kind.

Still, if it's true: yes, send the story to Alex Jones. I'm not qualified to recommend a course of legal action.

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WTH? How can they do something like this and get away with it? Easy. People let them. Their fears and worries give them the power to be arseclowns. I am so sorry you went through all of that. It makes no sense why they'd go out of their way to damage someone's property.

If they felt you were some sort of threat, they'd of confiscated your belongings, and held you in security for interrogation. But this was not the case. So to me, this states the culprits have no real power at all, and are using fear tactics on random individuals for the pleasure of the game.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I was pretty shocked to read about what happened to you.

I have some friends at Homeland Security so I checked with them and they say they know nothing about this...

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Like I thought. I'd have to say that Homeland Security would be a little more professional about how they handle things. It is like someone behind closed doors is tainting what HS is supposed to stand for, and making this look like they are doing this. So, maybe those baggage handlers in his area need to be interrogated and investigated. They're doing more harm than good using such actions. This makes some of the good guys (if any) look really bad.

1. What laptop computer has a glass screen? None, to my knowledge. "glass filled bag and glass filled clothing"...where did the glass come from? Not the laptop screen, which would be a soft LCD.

Excellent question..

I was wondering the same thing..

I have owned a laptop for years and years and never saw one with glass..

Semper

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If you hit google and type in "Laptop computer glass screen" and do an image search you will find what a broken LCD screen looks like. Granted its not shattered glass everywhere but I do find it plausible that someone broke the laptop screen over the 911 sticker.

Also while searching I did find that some laptops do have a nice outer glass screen.

But lets wait for the OP to pop back in with his two cents on the subject.

If you actually take pictures, get the computer, the note, and most importantly the computer case all in one image.

So do you have a photo of the destroyed laptop in question? I wouldn't mind seeing the extent of the damage myself. It does beg the question as to why you put the laptop with the rest of your baggage? I think you're just asking for trouble when you put anything that can be easily damaged (eg. fragile electronics) in with your checked luggage and not your carry-on. And not to mention your "911 was an inside job" sticker".
I do think that some manufacturers do make laptops with a glass screen, or if not glass something similar. So it is plausible that it was shattered and that you may have had shattered bits in with the rest of the contents of the bag. (Sony Vaio I think). Plus, I ran I quick google search "shattered laptop screen" and it seems to be a pretty common occurence. I have just a desktop myself with a Dell flatscreen monitor, and it does have a glass-like layer on the screen. Very similar to the newer laptop models. Is it glass though? Not sure.
More info with pics from OP needed.

is this true or a made up story ?

This is just part for the course for them. They brand us as terrorists on the news, in DHS reports and claim that 911 truthers were responsable for the bomb that went off at the recruitment station in NY last year. They claim we worshipped the crazy guy who went on a shooting spree at the holocaust museum. They call for our arrest, they call for our torture... we are the enemy because we are exposing them.

Now they've ramped up even more by claiming that Al-Qaeda would associate with 911 truthers to overthrow the government, kill millions of americans and release biological weapons.

Before a war, the government propagandize against their enemy. The fact that they've uped the propaganda means that soon they'll round us up.

If this is true - why not post an image.

Doesn't sound plausible to me as I would never ever check a laptop computer.

As far as a glass laptop screen - Yes, I had a glass type screen a couple laptops ago - so it is possible.

Anyone who's ever flown knows that you carry your expensive electronics (camera's & computers) in your carry on, you don't ever check them. Not just because you know luggage gets tossed a bit, but because aircraft baggage often gets lost or misplaced and then thieves working at airports take advantage.

In fact you don't even want to have too expensive of luggage as that is a target for thieves working in airports. You're better off using inexpensive luggage or even luggage from garage sales as thieves working airports will take the fancy leather stuff before they'll touch that old bag with worn out stickers.

Originally posted by Amaterasu

Vegas would. It is a site of international interest - I know. I lived there for nine years. Couple that with the proximity of Area 51, Nellis AFB, and even Hoover Dam... And you have a place they watch closely.

Believe me, I have seen what's in Vegas, and it's ugly once you step out of tourist mode.

All I can say is that the Vegas airport has ultra-sensitive metal detectors.
I have traveled extensively and it is only there that the metal hooks in my bra have made a sound. Now whenever I go there, coming back, I'll wear a sports bra.

You should most definitely give this so the Alex Jones Show and the InfoWarrior with Jason Bermas because this is a huge info-war, a war on the information for our mindz, so we need as much usefull information as humanly possible.

Originally posted by tezzajw
If your story is true, then it shows what kind of SS Officers are running DHS.

Your country might as well be in ruins.

I have suspected DHS to be the very same orginization as the SS for some time.

This does not even surprise me. DHS make up the group of police that are the fourth reich.

Originally posted by topsecretombomb
Now Im asking you guys, is her reaction confirmation of proof that Homeland Security can pull off their own hate crimes against U.S passengers? Or do you guys think she simply doesnt know or have any way of confirming it? Ive been thinking about reporting the incident to the wonderful Alex Jones but I want you guys two cents first.

I can certainly see why the people searching through your bags would have been peeved at your sticker. You are, after all, calling them murderers.

That said, it's still horrid professionalism (not to mention, deliberate vandalism) and you should definitely file a complaint, first to the airport for insurance purposes, second to the branch of the Homeland Security at the airport to let them know they have vandals workign there, and it wouldn't hurt to send an email explaining what happened to the local office of the ACLU, either. It doesn't matter how stupid your beliefs are, it still doesn't give anyone else the right to punish you for believing them. If that were the case I'd have a pile of dead Jehovah's Witnesses, on my front door step.

Don't waste your time with that tool Alex Jones. All he's going to do is milk it for all it's worth and make people feel helplessly paranoid for his own benefit, and he won't lift a finger to help you at all.