How Is The NWO Evil?

Some people might think this is flamebait, but let me assure you that it isn't. I always hear and read about the different kinds of theories of how the NWO will take over the world, but I rarely--and this might be my fault--see articulate and reasonable reasons why this is a bad thing. So, can someone please explain to me why the NWO is considered bad in the first place? For example, people say that under the NWO people will have less individual rights, but is that necessarily true? And if so, why?

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For a start I would say that anyone who lets all the suffering in the world continue without intervention does not need to be in charge.
Then there's the enforcement of suffering through alledged poisoning of food stuffs etc etc etc could go on for days but you just need to read the NWO forum page.
Of course there's the MSM mind control, which you may have fallen foul to as you seem to think extreme capitolism is going to be 'ok'.


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It seems that all too often when a mechanism is formed enabling the concentration of power and control into the hands of a small minority over the great majority, that seat of power so created, by its very nature and design, is accountable to no one and becomes a self-serving entity.

It also seems that unbalanced individuals who feel the need to exercise control over others are the same ones that acquire the positions of power in that mechanism.

History suggests to me, that a huge percentage of these people have interests which do not coincide with the great majority's.

If you do not have any problems with the way the gargantuan multi-national corporations operate, then you'll be fine with the NWO, because that's what it's shaping up to be - Earth Inc. (a Limited Liability Corporation).

Freedom, Peace.

What is bad about the NWO...

The Codex Alimentarius? (Is predicted by the PTB to kill three billion...)

The legal support of Monsanto's efforts to own all seed (along with their business of supplanting natural foods with GMO that lacks nutrition and is poorly digested at best).

The efforts to control water.

"Vaccines" that reduce mental acuity, create issues, and kill... With no evidence they do anything to keep away illness.

Moves to push humans into war (i.e., 9/11) which kill many and make Them money.

Efforts to reduce birth through sterilization of individuals without their consent - or even awareness...

And many other efforts to reduce population through death, as opposed to voluntary reduction in births.

What's "wrong" with the NWO!?! Heh. What's RIGHT about them?

The end does not justify the means for there is no end.

I appreciate your attitude of "Question everything."

For me the answer cannot be absolute in either direction. A NWO with a good head like Ceaser Augustus may not be a bad thing, but with someone like Torquemada, well...ungood would be too weak of a word. Ultimately, the problem always is succession. Philosophers, leaders and peoples have been trying to solve it since the dawn of human social interaction.

So, NWO or not, we, so far, have no real solution to guaranteeing good leadership that works towards the prosperity and well-being of all his or her followers, subjects or people.

Originally posted by and14263
For a start I would say that anyone who lets all the suffering in the world continue without intervention does not need to be in charge.
Then there's the enforcement of suffering through alledged poisoning of food stuffs etc etc etc could go on for days but you just need to read the NWO forum page.
Of course there's the MSM mind control, which you may have fallen foul to as you seem to think extreme capitolism is going to be 'ok'.

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But the NWO wants to stop all the suffering with total control over everyone. Why is this bad? Total freedom leads to total chaos, and even America has proved that a super power cannot change or control even a small country. We have tried many times with many different ways and the only true way to change a country is with total control over it.

Take Somalia, if the NWO went into that country and cleaned it out of all the factions living in pure freedom to do what they want (which tends to lead to death and destruction) and reeducated the population that was left while creating a safe structured life style for them, is that a bad thing?

They could then teach future children just what they need and tell them what jobs they would work at for their whole lives to create a stable life for all without anyone experiencing a minute of suffering, pain, or stress, ever.

Why is this a bad thing….

One need only to observe the past history of the NWO and it's cohorts to get a picture of where we are headed.

The Illuminati Agenda

The Illuminati & The NWO

The Real Face of the EU

Nazi Germany a creation of the Vatican & Jesuits

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Take Somalia, if the NWO went into that country and cleaned it out of all the factions living in pure freedom to do what they want (which tends to lead to death and destruction) and reeducated the population that was left while creating a safe structured life style for them, is that a bad thing?

They could then teach future children just what they need and tell them what jobs they would work at for their whole lives to create a stable life for all without anyone experiencing a minute of suffering, pain, or stress, ever.

Why is this a bad thing….

Oh, I'm sure *I* would want to be told what to do. Not. What if I wanted to do a job I was not "assigned" to? Would *I* be happy?

If the goal is to construct a social machine, then the solution is to batter people into being the parts. (This is your picture.) If one wants a social, human world of happiness, freedom is the choice.

*I* have a better solution, and it involves a shift of paradigm. Scarcity is the current paradigm, but the fact is, we CAN create abundance and remove money. The love of money IS the root of ALL evil.

I discuss these ideas in my free book linked in my sig.

The idea of a small group deciding who is to live, who to die, and who can do what is as dystopian a concept as I can think of.

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In addition to what everyone else has stated, it seems as though the way the system is constructed, it leaves a huge "distance" between the common person and those with authority. What I mean by "distance" is: Those in power, whether it be a food corporation or a governmental authority, do not directly interact with those on the receiving end, the consumers/citizen.

Somewhere along the line, this distance has caused an dissonance, a unempathetic mentality in most of the minds of authority.

All of this in tandem with the inherent tendency of humans to be greedy and money being an indirect way of survival, the world is the way it is now.

That is the reason one should speculate dire consequences should a "New World Order" arise.

Anyway.

Originally posted by Amaterasu

Oh, I'm sure *I* would want to be told what to do. Not. What if I wanted to do a job I was not "assigned" to? Would *I* be happy?

You would be happy because that would be all you would know.

If the goal is to construct a social machine, then the solution is to batter people into being the parts. (This is your picture.) If one wants a social, human world of happiness, freedom is the choice.

Go to Somalia and experience your freedom....hehe you might last a day.

*I* have a better solution, and it involves a shift of paradigm. Scarcity is the current paradigm, but the fact is, we CAN create abundance and remove money. The love of money IS the root of ALL evil.

Star Trek utopia...I understand, but one cannot take giant leaps and so small steps are needed, and just maybe total control is the FIRST small step to achieve your utopia down the road.

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Amaterasu

Oh, I'm sure *I* would want to be told what to do. Not. What if I wanted to do a job I was not "assigned" to? Would *I* be happy?

You would be happy because that would be all you would know.

Heh. I'm thinking that *I* would not be happy. Maybe my body, raised in the System, would be complacent. But complacence and happiness are two different things. And you seem to equate happiness with complacency. Two very different things.

And in the midst of complacency...some would think of ways to attain happiness. And they will be things that include liberty. And then this "evil" idea of liberty will spread, upsetting the machinery of the dehumanized cogset.

If the goal is to construct a social machine, then the solution is to batter people into being the parts. (This is your picture.) If one wants a social, human world of happiness, freedom is the choice.

Go to Somalia and experience your freedom....hehe you might last a day.

What is your point here? Are the Somalians all offered freedom? Are they able to have what they want, all of them? Sure you can batter the people into something that "works," as in functions as a unit. But... The geniuses, the creative ones, the ones who want more, or something else will always be there.

And they will spread ideas, and there will be revolution in favor of freedom.

*I* have a better solution, and it involves a shift of paradigm. Scarcity is the current paradigm, but the fact is, we CAN create abundance and remove money. The love of money IS the root of ALL evil.

Star Trek utopia...I understand, but one cannot take giant leaps and so small steps are needed, and just maybe total control is the FIRST small step to achieve your utopia down the road.

That's like trying to teach love and tolerance by beating and enslaving people. "You WILL love others!" *WHACK*

No. We, the Human Hearted, need to think in terms of abundance. IF enough of us are thinking in that direction, solutions will be emergent.

The idea that people have freedom is rediculous...you are free in the way cattle can move around in a pen...we are free range but far from free.

Statism is dead

Originally posted by Amaterasu


"Vaccines" that reduce mental acuity,

Let's be honest here. Of the current generation (let us say 18-28) who do you know who has an interest in politics? Very few. Who has an interest in doing something useful with their life? Also very few.

There is already a weapon out there that is lowering the mental acuity of people, two weapons actually. Alcohol and Drugs (weed being the primary). Not to mention the 'underclass' (I can only speak for britain on this behalf).
Too many people of my generation (i'm 25) are more concerned with partying and looking forward (sad, i know) to getting as drunk as they possibly can. I have noticed the decline in mental acuity for some years now and it is actually starting to reach a point where it irritates me. More and more people exhibit less of the fundamental abilities such as common sense and absolutely none (save a fraction) of this generation have an interest in who runs our countries and how they're run.

You tell an american it is soon to be illegal to sell your home (I kid you not) their response is: So anyway, I was out last night getting TOTALLY drunk...


Pertaining to the other thread that the NWO had changed their plans and decided not to depopulate the planet I can quite see why. They don't need to. In a few years time there will only be a minority of people smart enough to know and care what is going on with the world.


The third weapon we must consider, that lessens the IQ, is materialism. People LOVE shiny things. They love their boxes with gubbins inside. How hard is it going to be for the NWO to introduce 'incentives' to report any behaviour that is no longer wanted in this new society?

Report thought crime and receive a 6th generation iphone totally free!

People would do it. People wouldn't care why they're doing wit either, they'd just want the phone. After all its no skin of their nose if that tramp they reported gets carted away to a camp and slaughtered for no better reason other than that he was homeless and out of work.


The average IQ of people is dropping dramatically with each generation and it is things like Materialism, Alcohol, Television and Drugs that are the main weapons being employed by the NWO. And what is best about using this weapon is that its perfectly legal and people love it. They wont stop.

Originally posted by James Random

Originally posted by Amaterasu


"Vaccines" that reduce mental acuity,

Let's be honest here. Of the current generation (let us say 18-28) who do you know who has an interest in politics? Very few. Who has an interest in doing something useful with their life? Also very few.

I agree.

There is already a weapon out there that is lowering the mental acuity of people, two weapons actually. Alcohol and Drugs (weed being the primary). Not to mention the 'underclass' (I can only speak for britain on this behalf).

Since it's against the T&C to discuss drugs, I will not discuss them. But I do know an herb that was used by Carl Sagan...who said he did his best work under its influence (and which there is a vast amount of disinfo out there about). Also, the percentages of people who are in the "abuse" category in these things is really quite small.

That leaves many, many for whom these are not an issue, and still they have no ambition...rather like they're drinking fluoridated water, really.

Too many people of my generation (i'm 25) are more concerned with partying and looking forward (sad, i know) to getting as drunk as they possibly can. I have noticed the decline in mental acuity for some years now and it is actually starting to reach a point where it irritates me. More and more people exhibit less of the fundamental abilities such as common sense and absolutely none (save a fraction) of this generation have an interest in who runs our countries and how they're run.

Well, I do know a few in that age bracket that are this way. I know many who are not - but...they drink fluoridated water and have been vaccinated.

You tell an american it is soon to be illegal to sell your home (I kid you not) their response is: So anyway, I was out last night getting TOTALLY drunk...

AN American? Which one is that? [wink] *I* don't know a single one that is as you describe here. And I live in America. I know a number who are infuriated with how things are going (they don't drink fluoridated water, and haven't been vaccinated).

Pertaining to the other thread that the NWO had changed their plans and decided not to depopulate the planet I can quite see why. They don't need to. In a few years time there will only be a minority of people smart enough to know and care what is going on with the world.

I think you mistake the desire to escape an ugly world (and getting uglier) that they feel powerless to change with an inability to think... I know some who are alcoholics and are nonetheless fully aware of what is going on. They just don't see anything they can do (like many who are NOT inebriated often).

The third weapon we must consider, that lessens the IQ, is materialism. People LOVE shiny things. They love their boxes with gubbins inside. How hard is it going to be for the NWO to introduce 'incentives' to report any behaviour that is no longer wanted in this new society?

Personally, I don't buy the "materialism affects IQ" concept. The PTB are bright enough - and THEY surely love their stuff. In fact... They seem to love their money and stuff more than a Human Hearted one is likely to. They do not draw lines at ethics. Many (most...?) Human Hearted do.

Sure, there would be sellouts. But many would eschew material benefits if they did not believe the information is ethical to offer up.

Report thought crime and receive a 6th generation iphone totally free!

People would do it. People wouldn't care why they're doing wit either, they'd just want the phone. After all its no skin of their nose if that tramp they reported gets carted away to a camp and slaughtered for no better reason other than that he was homeless and out of work.

SOME people would. I know many, many who would never sell their friends down the river for any gain whatsoever. They are not the Lizard Hearted. They are Human Hearted.

The average IQ of people is dropping dramatically with each generation and it is things like Materialism, Alcohol, Television and Drugs that are the main weapons being employed by the NWO. And what is best about using this weapon is that its perfectly legal and people love it. They wont stop.

I disagree. It is fluoride, GMO, vaccines, and possibly even vehicle exhaust. Plus many other avenues of poison - which may include chemtrails, chemical "spills," and more.

Except for the "television" comment. There I agree.

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I don't buy into flouride water conspiracy. Personally I think it's a load of old cobblers. I think people are stupid because there's too many distractions these days.

*I* Drank fluoridated water for years when I lived in the US and I assure you I am in the best of health and my stupidity level is negligible. I'm sure many of the enlightened individuals here drink such water too without experiencing any ill-effects.
As someone who knows about this there is nothing in floride that would have a detrimental effect on one's mental acuity. The simple fact of the matter is that there people just don't care these days. People want to get drunk and party: flouride is not forcing this notion upon them, they force it upon themselves.

While I'm aware that Fluoride on is one of the ingredients in both Prozac and Sarin nerve gas, I can safely say that - on its own - it is harmless. It is not, as some people claim, a mutagen.

On the flip side, fluoride is one of the ingredients in the life-saving pharmaceutical efavirenz.

Only high amounts of fluoride salt is dangerous and you wouldn't get that from water since fluorine is highly soluble.

Ever drunk tea? That has fluoride in it (between 0.8 - 1.8mg of it).

I will say that in exceptionally high amounts it can weaken bones and discolour teeth, but those are the only ill effects (and only in extremely rare cases) that I have seen in my professional life.
One even finds moderate amounts of fluoride (about 1mg) in rainwater and I would guess that you've been rained on at some point. Traces of fluoride will also remain on vegetables that have been rained on and washed, etc. At some point you WILL have ingested it and, from what I can see of your posts, It is not making you stupid.

Personally? I think the Fluoridated water thing is just a conspiracy in of itself to excuse natural stupidity and bone-idleness in the current generation. None of us want to admit that kids are just growing up stupid but the fact of the matter is they are. There's too much political correctness in the education system which means children are being exposed to less and less of the correct education that they need. The Film Industry plays a large part of it too. Kids (again I speak for the UK) what gangster movies and such as the like and suddenly find it cool to try and be like them. Before you know it they're skipping school and fiddling with girls in the bushes and not before very long you have two stupid parents bringing up a kid who is destined to be ill-parented (the apple never falls far from the tree). Instant multiplication of stupid.
People take no interest in politics because it is boring. This is not because of fluoridate water, this is simply because politicians rely on keeping politics boring so that masses of people don't suddenly take an interest in it. Unnecessarily long words and unnecessarily large 500 page documents where all it really says is 'You know that thing you used to do? Don't do that.'
Side-Conspiracy's like Fluoridated water are just distractions from the real issue. While you're spending hours pouring over some useless sideline conspiracy you're not looking closer at the real truth of the matter.

Oops. Wrong thread. Got my windows confused.

[edit on 6/14/2009 by Amaterasu]

Same as above.

[edit on 6/14/2009 by Amaterasu]

I would like to know more abt NWO...any links i can use ?

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I would be happy to supply you some links

Here is a 260+ part documentary on it if you got about 40 hours to spare

The Illuminati project

Educate Yourself: Illuminati Agenda page

NOGW:Illuminati page

NOGW:Nazi-Bush page

Many other clips I would recommend are included in the illuminati project documentary...it has several documentaries within it.

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