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Originally posted by mpriebe81
Btw, there are roughly 1 to 2 million people going homeless in the US of A every night. Shouldn't we help them first?
Originally posted by mpriebe81
Btw, there are roughly 1 to 2 million people going homeless in the US of A every night. Shouldn't we help them first?
Originally posted by Bong Sau
Originally posted by seniord60
Name one country whose citezenry, or government does more to help others.
Originally posted by impaired
Originally posted by seniord60
Name one country whose citezenry, or government does more to help others.
Is it me, or are there ulterior motives involved when we're "helping" other countries?
Originally posted by constantwonder
of course we spend tons of money on military projects. . . take a look around all these other countries salivating over the us economic decline. . . makes me glad we have strong military. . . . everyone loves to see bad things happen to america, so of course we are gonna be ready when the vultures (which is really what the rest of the world is) come.
It makes me sick to hear all you say oh americans are stupid and uninformed.
We arent the only kid on the block with our heads in the clouds but by god we'll take the flak. . . i guess it is convienient when trying to ignore ones own flaws to have something to point your finger at
evil bankers good one. arent the rothschilds the evilest of all bankers Brits. . . .
Originally posted by mjfromga
reply to post by Bong Sau
I find it interesting that the historical plight of Native Americans and the enslavement of African Americans is regularly brought up as some insinuation that the United State’s citizenry isn’t quite legitimate and must somehow be evil. Sorry Bud, but what happened generations ago cannot be undone, and Native Americans and blacks are as much a part of our nation as the rest of us. In fact, I think you would be amazed if given genetic tests, just how large of a percentage of our population is of mixed race. When there’s a war, young black men, red men, and yellow men fight and die alongside the white man…and our pooling blood looks the same.
By the way, are you suggesting that if North Korea should attack Japan, South Korea, or the state of Alaska, it is our own fault? Just curious…
Stop selling arms to other countries and stirring up strife so your fat-cats can profit by it, cos that's what actually goes on.
Indeed, so why do you somehow think you have some moral/positional highground over the rest of the world.
Originally posted by apacheman
I find it amusing/amazing that some Americans are always saying "the past can't be undone" whenever Native American issues are raised. Sorry, but it isn't so: I, for one, am not going to "get over" the loss of my nation's freedom to the Americans. I have spoken for freedom my entire life, and will work until I die to see my people free again. As an American, would you simply accept it if someone successfully invaded and imposed a vastly different way of life upon you? I doubt it. So why would you expect us to give up, ever?
Yes, I fought for this country, but that doesn't mean I accept the idea of permanent subjugation. Before I am an American, I am an Apache; I will always be Apache first and always look for ways to recover what was lost. I am not alone...there are Navaho, Cheyenne, Sioux, Kiowa, Seminole, Cherokee, Mohawk and many others from every First Nation who feel as strongly as I.
I don't hate America, but I understand why others do. It's not jealousy but disappointment: America has reneged on its promise, failed to uphold the dream, has shown that it doesn't believe in its own ideals...nothing turns love to hate quicker than hypocrisy and lies told by the one you love. And for a long time, the world loved America.
Originally posted by constantwonder
yeah nice disection of my post and completely off. . . .
of course i know that the us government is the worlds biggest arms dealer. . . but i also know that having a decent military isnt the worst idea in the world
well the above statement would seem to say that in a general sweeping sence its the average american citizen that is selling these arms.
i know its got to be about more than just countires its about uniting. . . but its not the american people who are spewing the devisive rhetoric and thats what this whole discussion is about. . .
americans often hate what their government is doing, the citizenry wants to move on past all the crap, but still the world judges us by our past and our citizens by what they see on tv they look at our leaders and paint the rest of us with the same brush
how can it ever be about the world being united if everyone in the world judges americans and measures them in this way followed by turning up their nose or pointing their finger
when was the last time you saw an article about how horrible Britain or France or Germany or Spain or Italy is?
These are some of the oldest and bloodiest countries in the western world.
you want to point the finger and watch the world go up in flames as long as no blame is on anyone but america
Originally posted by mjfromga
While we consist of fifty states, Europe is seven geographic regions:
This discussion is largely about the "generalized" world ignorance of the majority of the American population and how that affects the rest of the world.
cuz you need a major attitude adjustment
No, I'm fighting for productive discussion with people who have an 'educated' perspective
The rest of the world couldn't give a monkeys pubic hair about America.
Just stay where you are and look after your own.
Originally posted by apacheman
Originally posted by mjfromga
reply to post by Bong Sau
I find it interesting that the historical plight of Native Americans and the enslavement of African Americans is regularly brought up as some insinuation that the United State’s citizenry isn’t quite legitimate and must somehow be evil. Sorry Bud, but what happened generations ago cannot be undone, and Native Americans and blacks are as much a part of our nation as the rest of us. In fact, I think you would be amazed if given genetic tests, just how large of a percentage of our population is of mixed race. When there’s a war, young black men, red men, and yellow men fight and die alongside the white man…and our pooling blood looks the same.
By the way, are you suggesting that if North Korea should attack Japan, South Korea, or the state of Alaska, it is our own fault? Just curious…
I find it amusing/amazing that some Americans are always saying "the past can't be undone" whenever Native American issues are raised. Sorry, but it isn't so: I, for one, am not going to "get over" the loss of my nation's freedom to the Americans. I have spoken for freedom my entire life, and will work until I die to see my people free again. As an American, would you simply accept it if someone successfully invaded and imposed a vastly different way of life upon you? I doubt it. So why would you expect us to give up, ever?
Yes, I fought for this country, but that doesn't mean I accept the idea of permanent subjugation. Before I am an American, I am an Apache; I will always be Apache first and always look for ways to recover what was lost. I am not alone...there are Navaho, Cheyenne, Sioux, Kiowa, Seminole, Cherokee, Mohawk and many others from every First Nation who feel as strongly as I.
I don't hate America, but I understand why others do. It's not jealousy but disappointment: America has reneged on its promise, failed to uphold the dream, has shown that it doesn't believe in its own ideals...nothing turns love to hate quicker than hypocrisy and lies told by the one you love. And for a long time, the world loved America.
Originally posted by constantwonder
reply to post by Bong Sau
perhaps vultures wasnt the best thing to equate the world to, i didnt mean you wanted america i meant you gather together and watch the death with glee in your eye...
and this is my thread i made it and it happens to be about americans taking unjust hate from from superficial people. . . . so please dont try and dictate to me what my thread is about. . .
This discussion is largely about the "generalized" world ignorance of the majority of the American population and how that affects the rest of the world.
sorry its not. . . and you just keep generalizing after you attempted to flog me for statement that wasnt even a generalization. . . you have alot of nerve to say that about americans in general. . .
cuz you need a major attitude adjustment
uhm... what. . . again with the geralizations. We arent all GW Bush or Obama or Cheney or McCain.
No, I'm fighting for productive discussion with people who have an 'educated' perspective
no your not your calling americans stupid and uneducated while pumping yourself up. . . you are just as selfrighteous and hateful as anyone. . . your sweeping catigorization of americans is disgusting
your tripe shows your true face and i must say you have alot of nerve to say americans are "world ignorant" when you display such self-righteous judgemental sweeping biggotry.
Originally posted by constantwonder
no your not your calling americans stupid and uneducated while pumping yourself up. . . you are just as selfrighteous and hateful as anyone. . . your sweeping catigorization of americans is disgusting
your tripe shows your true face and i must say you have alot of nerve to say americans are "world ignorant" when you display such self-righteous judgemental sweeping biggotry.
Its obvious to any american that alot of the world harbors some kind of hate or strong dislike for americans. Most americans have done nothing as individuals to to earn anyones animosity.
For a long time i thought of it this way. I thought about individuals. But when you look at america as a whole the picture changes (at least for me) and the disdain makes more sence.