Fulford says Illuminati have given up plans for NWO/genocide

Benjamin Fulford has posted two videos on Youtube where he and a 33rd degree Freemason are saying that the Illuminati have given up their plans for NWO control and mass genocide. If this is not a piece of disinformation, it is GREAT NEWS for the whole planet. Let's hope it's true. Here's the link.

benjaminfulford.typepad.com...

Originally posted by Studenofhistory
Benjamin Fulford has posted two videos on Youtube where he and a 33rd degree Freemason are saying that the Illuminati have given up their plans for NWO control and mass genocide. If this is not a piece of disinformation, it is GREAT NEWS for the whole planet. Let's hope it's true. Here's the link.

benjaminfulford.typepad.com...

ONCE AGAIN, no evidence whatsoever of

1) How, when and why this was going to happen at the first place?
2) Why is it cancelled?

Freemasons organizing a massive genocide? What a pile of BS. Sorry.

i wanna refund then dammit!!

And what if this is simply another part of the DISINFORMATION campaign... the more I read of Benjamin Fulford and Leo Zygami, the more my 'spider sense' starts to tingle.... Something is not right here.

What the hell is the point of posting this to youtube.... do you REALLY thing the Illuminati would even give a $hit to tell the masses IF this were true?

This strikes me as definitely fishy!!!!

reply to post by cehas_ultra171

Freemasons organizing a massive genocide? What a pile of BS. Sorry.

Studenofhistory stated it was Fulford and a 33rd degree mason stating that the Illuminati gave up their plan...not Fulford said a 33rd degree mason and the Illuminati gave up their plan.

Big difference.

reply to post by cehas_ultra171

Let's be reasonable, okay? It's a VIDEO we're talking about (actually 2). How much evidence can you expect from a video? IF the guy with the Italian accent is really a 33rd degree Freemason and Illuminati heavyweight and IF, he really represents the views of the REAL Illuminati and not just a bunch of Illuminati wannabees, then THIS IS A BIG DEAL. He's referring to the neutralization of the faction of the Illuminati, that were planning world control and genocide ie. the NAZI faction (read Dr. Joseph Farrell's and Jim Marrs' books on the Fourth Reich). While I agree with Fulford that we should wait for confirmation via actions, I don't see any benefit to just dismissing it out of hand or trying to make a funny (and failing miserably I might add) remark about it.

I have a couple of comments.

1) Who the hell is Benjamin Fulford?
2) Why would a Freemason know anything if they aren't in the top 10.
3) Why would they even talk about this at all?
4) Most people would have no idea what they are talking about.
5) That is what they would want us to think.

reply to post by The Killah29

There's lots of info on Ben Fulford. Just google him and you'll find all kinds of stuff but in a nutshell, he's a financial journalist, who was assigned to the far east because of his ability to speak and write Japanese, who seems to have impressed the eastern secret societies and who now seems to be their public spokesman.

As for your second question, why is it so hard to believe that the Illuminati have also penetrated Freemasonry? Anyone who's researched the Illuminati would not have any problem with that assertion.

Why would they talk about it? Because Fulford is saying that this dialog has to be out in the open. No more secret deals/plans.

Yes I agree that most people have no idea what they're talking about and a youtube video is a good way to change that, don't you think?

You're last question is the best. Maybe this is all just disinfo. Maybe Fulford is even in on it. Who really knows for sure? The proof will be in the pudding as they say but it's okay to hope that this is legit.

So this super secret Illuminaty group now announces that it no longer plans to kill vast majority of people. On you-tube. Of course the only proper place to do it. And of course if this super secret organisation exists it would allow any of their plans to be leaked. On you-tube.
On general note, if this is indeed correct (very small chance) all this story reminds me tale about goat in the house. Person came to Rabbi and said he was living with wife and kids in one crowded room and asked for advice. Rabbi told him to get goat into the room. Then after certain time person came to Rabbi and said that it is not working, it is actually much worse now. So Rabbi told him to remove the goat. Then this guy come backs to Rabbi and says - thank you, now we live much better.
All this was to demonstrate that if one removes this mass murder part from what is described as a goal of NWO, their program sounds (only sounds) ok. Maybe the whole point of mass-murder surfacing was a parralel of a goat in the story? Even Zeitgeist dudes who are declaring that they are all against NWO actually suggest their own version of NWO.
Rant off.

Oops... hold on a minute. I just got word that the Illuminati changed their minds and decided to kill us afterall. Just thought you should know... Enjoy your weekend.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by mecheng]

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


First of all please allow me to congratulate you on your nickname. How appropriate!

Second, what is wrong with using youtube? Millions of people use it every day. If you had actually watched the videos, you would have heard Zagami say that the Illuminati have decided to become more visible and have actually registered themselves as an official organization. (his accent was so strong that I'm not sure under what name they're registering but that was very clearly the intent).

Now I'm NOT saying that we should whole-heartedly accept this at face value but I see nothing wrong with being cautiously optimistic. If one faction of the Illuminati has more or less pulled the rug out from under another nasty faction, that's a good thing and for those of you who have not read Jim Marrs Rise of the Fourth Reich or Joseph Farrell's Nazi International (among other equally good books), I highly recommend them. There is a lot of admittedly circumstantial but nevertheless powerful evidence that Nazis, who fled Germany before it's defeat, have insinuated themselves into positions of power in government agencies, intelligence organizations and yes in secret societies all over the world and Fulford is saying and has been for a long time, that this faction are the guys that want to kill 4.5 billion of us and turn the rest into slaves.

So how about being less negative and more hopeful?

Fulford... the guy who make up stuff all the time... come on. Saying the NWO wouuld stop trying to take over it's like saying birds would stop to fly or fishes would stop swimming. It's their nature. They won't stop, they can't.

Originally posted by The Killah29
I have a couple of comments.

1) Who the hell is Benjamin Fulford?
2) Why would a Freemason know anything if they aren't in the top 10.
3) Why would they even talk about this at all?
4) Most people would have no idea what they are talking about.
5) That is what they would want us to think.

It's unlikely that unless the fellow was either in The Palladium or the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O) he will not even know of the existence of the Illuminati, let alone what they have or previously had planned.

In any event. Perhaps the Illuminates have decided that the generation they'll be ruling over is so stupid and apathetic that they wont care whether there's an NWO and so exterminating them becomes something of an academic proposition.

[edit on 12-6-2009 by James Random]

So how about being less negative and more hopeful?

This is exactly the point of the video I think. These people know how our universe works, by our thoughts and actions. OUR (everyone) vision is what makes this world what it is. We're all connected, no turning back that now, so we might as well be positive about it. If anyone would like to know WHY we are so vulnerable to thought, look into the effects of thought on water. Remember we are mostly water!

for anyone that didn't find the videos on that site I have posted them on mine:
crowbar.dyn-o-saur.com...My site has no ads and is in English

[edit on 12-6-2009 by theuhstuf]

Originally posted by Studenofhistory
Benjamin Fulford has posted two videos on Youtube where he and a 33rd degree Freemason are saying that the Illuminati have given up their plans for NWO control and mass genocide. If this is not a piece of disinformation, it is GREAT NEWS for the whole planet. Let's hope it's true. Here's the link.

benjaminfulford.typepad.com...

Make us feel safe so we stop looking where we should be just long enough for them to pull it off......Nice diversion tactic..

Originally posted by Studenofhistory
. If this is not a piece of disinformation, it is GREAT NEWS for the whole planet. Let's hope it's true.

If it is true then it is not great news but rather alarming.

Aside from the fact that this would prove the existence of an Illuminati and they did have global genocide on the menu as claimed, it basically means we are still slaves to a secret powerful organization that may take up their plans for genocide at a more convenient time.

We get a stay of execution but we're still strapped in the chair.

Although I find this claim to be a bit dubious, if it were a fact I'd still be rather pissed.

- Lee

I like Benjamin Fulford and as a former editor of Forbes Magazine he would have had access to many of the most serious movers and shakers in the world.

Having said that...sadly I don't read Japanese but will be sure to forward the link to all my Japanese speaking friends OP...just as soon as I make some!

Originally posted by cehas_ultra171
ONCE AGAIN, no evidence whatsoever of

1) How, when and why this was going to happen at the first place?
2) Why is it cancelled?

Freemasons organizing a massive genocide? What a pile of BS. Sorry.

They don't have the brains to do it in the first place anyway. He is just talking about the swine flu i bet ye, and i suppose before swine flu he was talking about them killing us all.

He should make up his mind.

reply to post by Studenofhistory


Don't believe it! We Illuminati will never give up our evil and nefarious plans! Ya ha ha! (insert evil laugh)

this thread is so ridiculous you guys are funny honestly...."the nwo" wasn't that hulk hogan, scott hall, and kevin nash LMFAO!

the world is "controlled" by scott hall and hogan lmfao! weridos for real