YOU can't handle disclosure. yes,YOU!

reply to post by ewokdisco


You don't have the slightest clue as to what I can and cannot handle or anyone else for that matter. Speak for yourself. I've already wasted enough time reading your rant. Color Me Gone. Peace

Lol, in my honest opinion, this is probably one of THE most assenine threads on ATS. Yes, I am going to run and scream even though I know damn well now that the drake equation has always been correct. It is mathematically impossible for us to be the only intelligent lifeform ANYWHERE. Just because some whitehouse monkey with a spiffy suit on tells me any different us NOT gonna scare me. Speak for yourself you toddler.
Disclose aliens already. Let us learn the things that the gov's know. All the technology, medicine, spirituality and such. It will better us as a community.
-Z-

The only reason why the news would start with "please remain calm.here is an emergancy message" was if we were about to be attacked by aliens. That's not exactly the disclosure we're all waiting for now is it?

Will people freak, cry and hide under their beds in the event of a proper disclosure? The brainwashed sheeple maybe. Personally, I can't imagine many ATS members reacting that way.

Originally posted by ewokdisco

that YOU can even begin to contemplate.

If i can contemplate it, does that mean I can likely prepare for it, thus being able to handle it?

and i couldnt either.

wuss


I personally would at least like to know if there is positive knowledge of someting going on. I've seen a couple crazy things in my day and wouldn't mind knowing whether what I saw might be from somewhere else or positively of our own making.

Frankly - I would not be 'freaked out' by contact with aliens, but I think a lot of people would be.

Basically most people haven't suffered hardship or loss - and those experiences are necessary to develop emotional strength. Death of a family member, a bar fight, and maybe a few broken bones - those are the limit of most peoples experience.

Many people have never suffered anything bad at all - of course they are going to be freaked - they have no experience in dealing with stuff - they are childlike.

As far as having it on the news and televised - I would be annoyed and want to go and see them personally, I don't consider television to be a practical experience - its a lie and nonsense.

I want a practical experience - I want them to shake their hands, or fins, or tentacles or whatever - and look them in the eye and ask "WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?!"

I don't think the politicians etc are qualified emotionally to handle first contact - you want someone who is going to be able to deal with them on equal terms. One other thing thats important is someone who has no rigid set of beliefs - their whole universe might be unraveled by the appearance of ET's, that rules out any religious idiots.

Could you see Obama greeting them? He would be crawling on his stomach like a worm. Fricken panzie baby poofter he is.

reply to post by ewokdisco


I understand what you are saying. I've often thought that there is a big difference between believing UFOs and aliens exist on an intellectual level and it being confirmed in reality. It would be like suddenly waking up inside a science fiction novel. Imagine if they announced that time travel was possible and had been actually achieved, it would engender the same kind of 'unreality'. The world would no longer be the place you thought it was.

we have been drip feed the information slowly for years. I never thought about aliens until in my teens! I am 37 now.

ask my Father and he will probably dismiss the whole subject, but ask my 6 year old daughter, as I did last night and she told me they live in space, without a second thought or care!!!!

we are being conditioned to the fact that they are real, the only thing I need to know is how much of what we here and see is bs!

I won't be running or hiding under my bed, it's what most of us are here for!!!!!

regards

Way to speak for yourself. Most have the mental maturity and capacity to handle such concepts

reply to post by Walkswithfish


Wake up! Several countries have already declassified their UFO files. Uraguay is the most recent member to the disclosure movement across the globe.

It is happening.. we are just waiting for USA to catch up.

reply to post by ewokdisco


Speak for yourself, not me. I would not panic.

Anyone who has spent time researching the ETH would have hopefully come to the conclusion that if extraterrestrials wanted to “invade” us – either militarily or culturally - they already would have. And there would have been little to nothing we could have done about it.

Simple logic dictates that Disclosure would be no Hollywood reveal, especially during these current times when we seem to be under the threat of war at every turn. Why put added pressure on the religious and political systems than they already have?

An uncomplicated and gentle admittance that we are not alone is what we would get.

And it makes perfect sense that each and every governmental agency and department that ever was – or still is – involved in the study of our neighbours, would have the most plausible reasons and explanations why they couldn’t/wouldn’t/didn’t tell us they already knew at hand. Do you honestly think that there isn’t a contingency plan in effect to cover that eventuality if our visitors decided to take matters into their own hands and initiate contact?

So, I do not believe that there would be mass hysteria.

What there would be, in my opinion, is a massive backlash from some sections of society who had previously, and vehemently, denied that aliens could ever have existed in the first place. And they would be every where; government – philosophy – religion – science. It’s those guys that we’d have to watch, the ones whose pedestal would not only have been toppled, but thrown to the ground and broken.

In the event of contact, some people in power – especially those in the above disciplines who had professed irrefutable knowledge – would suddenly find themselves exiled because of their previous views, views that would now be completely defunct. It’s purely speculation, but we as a species are wont to create like-minded cliques; groups who share a common – and binding – meme, especially where a grievance needs to be redressed. Who is to say that a new form of loyalty, a loyalty to the solitude of Man in the universe, would not spring from the contempt that would surely fester from these people who have not only lost face, but employment and credibility?

There are ordinary folks who simply cannot begin to allow the concept of ET existing into their lives.

They would have to be helped.

We’d need a world wide programme of education – entirely supported by the visitors’ own knowledge and with their assistance – that would allow each and every human being to come up to speed – and therefore gain trust and acceptance of the situation – so that the new world that we would all be getting used to would not be a frightening one.

It wouldn't effect me at all. Everything we do now, we will still have to do. Of course, eventually I'd get pissed off that we aren't using their technology to make our lives better, but I'd get over that.

Yeah, you got me!!
I would scream like a girl and go running off up stairs for my bed..............But I'd be screaming for joy, and the reason for running to my bed is because I keep my passport in a drawer next to it. I'd be checking to see if it allows off earth travel and if not, how quick can I get a new one!!

I think you have to be a little mad to believe we are alone in the universe, people are learning more and more about the diversity of life on this planet and how were finding more possibilities of life existing just in own solar system. The time of mass panic about aliens is gone, unless they land in America and ask you for all your guns!!

[edit on 11-6-2009 by Kurokage]

I usually ignore these "disclosure" threads, but enough is enough.

First of all, do I believe that aliens exist, well I'm not sure, but I tend to think that it's pretty silly to believe out of all of the galaxies, planets and stars in the universe that we're the only intelligent beings that exist.

Now that being said, UFO's do they exist, yes of course they do. People see objects flying all the time that are not identified. Are they alien or from another world, I must say, probably not. I think 98% of them are man made either for a hoax attempt or secret government aircraft.

So this whole disclosure thing. Does our government or any government know of alien existence, I don't know. What would they gain by disclosing it to people?

I don't think we'll ever have disclosure by any government, period.

The only way disclosure will ever happen is when an alien craft enters our atmosphere, lands on earth and the alien being comes out and says hello or destroys us all.

Sorry folks, thats it. It's time to accept whats real.

reply to post by ewokdisco


no previous pop psycology generalisation has EVER been valid for the entire human polpulation - what makes you think yhat yours will buck the trend ?

the only kernel of truth in your post was the admission that you THINK that you would panic

so please do the world and ATS a favour - stop telling us wjhat we would do in a hypothetical situation - heck dont even box yourself into a corner with a pre notion of wehat you would do

you might surprise even yourself

I don't know about the rest of you people...but I'm already fully aware that we're not alone, not just in the universe but here on Earth as well. I don't really need a thumbs-up from the man to confirm it. So if and when disclosure does happen...I'll be the chillaxed one sitting in a lawn chair on the roof watchin all the chaos with my glass of iced tea.

reply to post by ewokdisco


I am pretty sure of myself and my mental state to say that if one day I turned on the TV and they confirmed that we were not alone in the universe, that I would not be going out there and freaking out. Why would I? What would be the point in freaking out and killing other people? It wouldn't make the situation go away.

I am confident that if disclosure were to come, I could handle the truth...

im wrong?? i state one simple theory and look at the anger i am met with. even the idea of simply CONFRONTING/DEBATING this question has made some of you forget the golden rule of manners.
[i would like to thank debz and mars attacks,however.]

as i said.you can buy all the books,watch all the you tube vids and believe in anything you wish,but,when or if the day comes when we are told we are not alone,the world and YOU will freak out beyond measure. no joke,no troll and no insult intended.you will NOT be able to handle something of that size and importance. right now you have an emotional 'i might not be right' buffer about ufos/aliens,but full 100% disclosure will NOT be the 'yipee,told you so' moment you think it will be.

Ewok - just because you couldn't handle it doesn't mean that the majority of other humans couldn't. I personally accept that there may be "aliens" out there, but I really am not gullible enough to believe they are visiting Earth. Having said that, if they really did land in an undisputable televised event and we had actual, tangible "disclosure", I would have no choice but to believe that they were here and I still wouldn't freak out. I would be very curious about these beings and what they had to say to us. And it definately would not fundamentally change my whole belief system in anything. Well, obviously with the exception of aliens visiting.

Nephra - All that Uraguay and other countries are "disclosing" is that they have some pictures/video/testimony/etc. that they can't explain. Even the US government has admitted that much. As far back as Project Blue Book among others, some "sightings" got classified as "unidentified". That is a far cry from saying that "aliens" are visiting us.

hasnt here already been a thread on wethere or not we as a society can handle disclosure?
2nd line...

I think a lot of people on ATS are going to be very happy when it happens.
Just so they can say to their loved ones, "see? i told you so, i am not crazy, i told you so, i told you so."