Strangers in the woods

I am a pretty long standing member here, so I'm not hoaxing; in fact I'm a skeptic myself, because I'm asking about a case involving my friend.

Recently my friend started claiming that someone was after him, I don't know the whole series of events, but the screw on his oil pan was loosened up; and somehow this with a few other things had him feeling that someone was messing with him. He lived in a wooded area with his parents at the time, in the process of moving further south after losing a job here. Anyhow, for about a week, he started claiming that there were people in the large wooded area surrounding his home, and that they were using advanced weaponry such as energy weapons (lasers) that would assert pressure on someone to make them feel as if they couldn't breath. Anyhow, his dad is a woodsman, etc, and knows how to track animals and footprints in the woods. So his dad showed him around the woods showing him that there was no sign of human footprints. So he "snapped out of it," admitting to me that it was nonsense that he had somehow fell for.

So he left his home, and moved. Soon, a week or so later, he got a call from his parents and his dad apologized for him not believing his son. They have the house lined with security cameras because they own various weapons and don't want them stolen. They have claimed that they saw people on the cameras lurching in their woods wearing camo and carrying weapons. Bugging their house, etc. So his parents call the Sheriff and have him out to the house, twice. The Sheriff tells them that he has full legal right to fire on anyone on his property if they are a threat. So they begin firing on parts of the woods they think these people are hiding in camo.

So my friend headed back to his parents house about a week after they started to claim these events were happening, he came in not believing any of this, thinking he had somehow enacted mass hysteria with his moment of making these claims. Now, however, my friend has claimed to have lurched around in the woods and spotted these people, and they have fired up on these people (receiving no return fire). He also claims to have found their forward base near their house.

Now, I'm a skeptic, I have not seen these people and a lot of these claims seem very far fetched. I do plan on going to their house later this week to see for myself and maybe put things to a rest. They are all insistent on people being in the woods, using energy weapons though. I have a theory that there maybe a mold or something in the area/house causing hallucinations in all of them, and a mix with mass hysteria. However, in keeping an open mind, and considering I am a member of this conspiracy forum already, I was wondering if there are any known incidents in the conspiracy community of things like this? I could only see them being targeted by whomever, because they do possess weaponry, such as assault rifles etc. Would anyone have any insights into why this would be happening?

I would be interested in hearing what you see when you visit. I don't recall any stories like this, but I do have a question. If the people in the woods never returned fire, how does your friend know that the weapons are of the lasar variety and what affects they have?

Interesting story.

If they have them on the cameras get a hold of the stills and post them for us.

My bet would be perhaps a military exercise in the woods? Perhaps these poor buggers in basic training are the ones being harassed by your friend?

How much of the woods around the home do these people legally own? Is it a big enough area that training exercises could be held there?

Originally posted by Cameoii
I would be interested in hearing what you see when you visit. I don't recall any stories like this, but I do have a question. If the people in the woods never returned fire, how does your friend know that the weapons are of the lasar variety and what affects they have?

Well, when I mean return fire, I suppose I meant with bullets. They have supposedly felt the effects of some sort of weapon which emits pressure. Again, I have not felt the effects of this, or seen anyone on their property, but I do plan on going out there just to see what exactly is going on, because it does sound so outlandish.

Originally posted by CameoiiMy bet would be perhaps a military exercise in the woods? Perhaps these poor buggers in basic training are the ones being harassed by your friend?

How much of the woods around the home do these people legally own? Is it a big enough area that training exercises could be held there?

I have thought about such a scenario, because in my opinion, if these people (if there is anyone at all) wanted to do harm they already would have. So it could be some sort of training mission of which they are being subjected to. I'll honestly have to get more information from my friend as to other things that have "happened." They own probably 20 acres, just off the top of my head, I'll definitely ask them to take pictures of any video footage, that is a good idea.

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You should have waited to post until you have the video of the people creeping around the house, planting bugs in camo w/ energy weapons.

Because it sounded just as out there when you said it lol.

Patiently waiting for video, or even pictures before I comment further.

Originally posted by breakingdradles
You should have waited to post until you have the video of the people creeping around the house, planting bugs in camo w/ energy weapons.

Because it sounded just as out there when you said it lol.

Patiently waiting for video, or even pictures before I comment further.

I agree, but if there is nothing, this could be an interesting look at psychology and possible mass hysteria...so not all is lost even if this is out there...it is pretty out there. I honestly won't believe it until I see if to myself, but I really wanted to test the waters and see if there had been other incidents like this if I did have to eat crow and was shown that this is legit.

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Now I understand. Has your friend mentioned any theories he has about who would want to do this to him? Does he know of any reason he would be under surveillance?

Interesting story indeed!

If I was in your position, I would go to the police department and talk to the officer that investigated the incident. I would also get a copy of the police report. If it is not an ongoing investigation you should be able to get a copy of it. If you do get a copy of it, I'd love to see it.

Guz

It is great that you are treating this with an open mind too. Kudos.

A lot of people that come here with wild stories refuse to acknowledge that there is a fairly large possibility of a reasonable explanation. (I know this isn't your personal story in particular, you are only the messenger).

Go into it with a skeptical outlook, but be willing to consider all possibilities (It seems you are doing so already, so once again much respect).

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.

I remember seeing a documentary about mkultra , and if i remember correctly , there was a guy who filmed his family in pain , because of a buzzing that screwd with their heads , he claimed it was some kind of weapon that pointed at their house , the video shows too reports from other people that claim that.
I dont remember what documentary it was , and the info i gave above may be incorrect , but it was something along those lines.

If i manage to find that documentary i will post it here , i remember i stumbled on that documentary , when i was searching for stuff about jonestown.

Sorry for my confusing post and not being of more help.

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Most definately would love to hear of more information on this story. Sounds very intriguing. Photos or video would be incredible.
I know this probably unrelated, but it reminds me of an old x-files episode of the explorers seeking the fountain of youth. in the show, they found it and evolved to live in the wooded areas. natural camoflage, etc.


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My brother said the same thing last summer.That there was men dressed in camo carrying weapons circuling the house.It was very strange nobody in the house ever saw them and I stayed with him one night.We would just be sitting there and he would scream look didn't you see them out the window and then he would run out with his firearm. It was very disturbing to say the least.

Originally posted by dee132423
My brother said the same thing last summer.That there was men dressed in camo carrying weapons circuling the house.It was very strange nobody in the house ever saw them and I stayed with him one night.We would just be sitting there and he would scream look didn't you see them out the window and then he would run out with his firearm. It was very disturbing to say the least.

That's wild! I appreciate everyone being considerate here, like I said, I am a skeptic myself, and for all I know any "evidence," they provide could be debunked by me. I would also like people posting any stories they have similar to this one, because if it is real, whatever this could or would be needs to be reveled. I'm hoping it is nothing, but mass hysteria or something, because I really don't want to get my hands dirty or into something that I would have otherwise been unknown to.

My friend is ex-Navy and his father served in the Navy as well, that is the only thing I would know that could make them on the "radar." They have a lot of expertise with weaponry...you know, probably no more than some other people who sell items at a gun show, etc. I'm really at a loss, I will bring a camera with me to their property and will try to document this. There are a lot of unanswered questions that I'll get answered, and I'll post more information here when I get it. I don't want to give out too much information that could lead to location or identity, I'm really just trying to investigate this myself, and figured this community (which I've been a member of for a while) would have some information that could help me help them.

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Check the house for unsealed containers of chemicals, and also check for carbon monoxide leaks, and exposed electrical wires. I know that the father said that he caught these guys on camera but you never know.

I just want to congradulate your friends family for firing on the intruders! It's the kind of thing everyone probably says they'd do but never end up doing. If the sherriff gave me permission I'd do the same.

anyway, when they check the spots they are firing on the next day (which I assume they do) do they find any dead animals, blood, signs of a hasty retreat? I know the father saw no signs of people at first but I'm wondering if this has changed since he knows where to look now.

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there are paranormal overtones to your friends story. something is trying to create fear and confusion in these people. pick up this book and you 'll see what i mean.
hunt for the skinwalkers by geoge knapp.

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i'll explain a little.your friends dad is an experienced woodsman
he would definetly know if some one was out in those woods. tromping
around .the signs would be everywhere .get the picture.

If they have it on camera then the police would investigate.
Why do they have security camera's?
You said that have some kind of weapons themselves?
What kind of weapons do you need to have to install security camera's to own?
Sounds a little suspect why they would have security camera's living out in the woods.

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The hallucination excuse is pretty far fetched. It sounds like a way to just pass it off.

Just because it's something that we haven't seen for ourselves, that's no reason to pass it off as crazy. Then when it happens to you, you're going to feel like a dummy.

That's what happened with my mom. For years she said that there were "demons attacking her" and that they where "attacking her leg" and "attacking her side". Then she'd say things like "everyone knows everything about her", that they were "trying to stop her", things like that.

Then I realized later that there was really something out there following her around and really remotely causing her to have pain various parts of her body. That was because they were now starting on me! I found out that there were really folks trying to "stop her", because at every job interview, they were there before I got there! If I tried to think otherwise, they would point at me and say "that's the guy", so I knew it was them.

And I found out that it wasn't that "everyone knew everything" about my mom, it was that these folks could appear just about anywhere, and then they would turn and say random stuff to you. Sometimes, they might say a place where you worked in the past, or might call out a familiar name, things like that. That part you can find in this thread where someone else experienced stuff more along those lines:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So eventually I figured out that mom was not crazy, and that it wasn't "demons", or the "CIA", or the "FBI" that was causing her problems, because those groups don't nearly have technological capability! It was something completely different, like the "MIB" or something along those lines!

So I ran back to Rochester to tell mom, and she ignored me.. she didn't hear what I was trying to tell her. All these years of her screaming, smashing light bulbs, smashing glass tables to bits (so we had to buy her a wooden one), had all been beyond her control. She was obviously under hypnosis the entire time. If you don't think it's a real deal, then just look at all the stage hypnosis tapes on the internet! Hypnosis can completely control people without them ever knowing it:



They're even showing you what they're doing. They are doing it to massive numbers of folks on a stage for all to see. They want you to look back at the past and see how dumb you were.

A few years later, my mom died a "crazy people" death, and they claimed she died of a "blood clot". No autopsy or anything, just "she died of a blood clot". Like all the other folks that they claim are crazy. Just look at this chick here:

www.cnn.com...

Later, they claimed that she died of a "blood clot". That's their new "crazy people" cause of death.

Originally posted by skeetontheconspiracy
Most definately would love to hear of more information on this story. Sounds very intriguing. Photos or video would be incredible.
I know this probably unrelated, but it reminds me of an old x-files episode of the explorers seeking the fountain of youth. in the show, they found it and evolved to live in the wooded areas. natural camoflage, etc.

Are you referring to the Season 5 episode, "Detour"?

Detour