Comunist China holds NOLA Mayor Ray Nagin HOSTAGE!

Under the guise of "quarantine procedures" Communist China has taken New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin hostage.



Source: US/World News

Further proving that this is a hostage situation and not a quarantine procedure as Beijing would like us to believe is this (unfortunately from Fox News)



Source: Fox News

Monitoring his phone calls like a criminal awaiting trial, Nagan faces the possibility of execution if the Chinese government goes the N. Korea route and decides to charge the mayor with espionage.

Will the mayor, his wife, and their bodyguard get out of Communist China with their lives? Only time will tell.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by whatukno]

reply to post by whatukno


They can keep him.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Ah such compassion for a fellow American being held against his will in a Communist country.

If your name replaced Ray Nagin, how would you feel if someone said that about you?

The man is a hostage when international law forbids the detaining of official persons traveling with diplomatic immunity.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by whatukno]

Originally posted by whatukno

The man is a hostage when international law forbids the detaining of official persons traveling with diplomatic immunity.

The position of Mayor does not come with diplomatic immunity, sorry.

He's under quarantine, not a hostage. If he shows no symptoms, he'll be out in a couple of days. Like everyone else.

reply to post by whatukno

Nagan faces the possibility of execution if the Chinese government goes the N. Korea route and decides to charge the mayor with espionage.

There is NO WAY that China would ever even consider executing Nagan. I don't even understand how we got from quarantine to espionage... much less execution.

reply to post by vox2442

He's under quarantine, not a hostage. If he shows no symptoms, he'll be out in a couple of days. Like everyone else.

Unless the Chinese government decides to trump up some bogus espionage charges against him from his monitored phone calls.

And if he does show symptoms? The Chinese don't have the best human rights record on the planet. He may face the firing squad for having the swine flu.

There's no conspiracy here, really.
China started putting on quarantine passengers from several flights on which there was someone with swine flu-like symptoms.

He was just unlucky to be flying in one of those flights.

No conspiracy there.

He'll be let go in a couple of days, along with the rest of the passengers.

reply to post by whatukno

The Chinese don't have the best human rights record on the planet. He may face the firing squad for having the swine flu.

Come on man.... can you show any evidence of China executing anyone for having swine flu? Can you show any evidence of China executing a high profile foreign politician on trumped up charges?

reply to post by whatukno


OK, I give up. What possible reason would you have to suspect that he'd be executed if he is found to have the flu?

No one has been so far, and everyone who has been quarantined has said that while it was an inconvenience, the Chinese officials and hotel staff treated them very well. Why would they suddenly start now, with one of the most high profile mayors in the world?

I know it's a conspiracy site, but some of you have the tinfoil ear flaps tied a bit too tight. It's cutting off the circulation.

Originally posted by whatukno

Unless the Chinese government decides to trump up some bogus espionage charges against him from his monitored phone calls.

And if he does show symptoms? The Chinese don't have the best human rights record on the planet. He may face the firing squad for having the swine flu.

Have you made many mountains out of mole hills lately?

I really don't think the Chinese are that bad that they will shoot someone from the US for being sick.

Why are you so bored that you had to post this nonsense??

Oh, no..
No.
Mother of God... I..I cant stop it, here it comes!!

WHY IS IT I AM SO BORED THAT I HAVE TO RESPOND???

The ATS Parodox of Perpetual Banality And Boredom, IT IS OPENING IN MY BRAIN AND SWALLOWING MY SANITY WHOLE!!!!

tHe LaSt ThInG i SeE bEfOrE mY ReAlIty SwIrLs 'RoUnD ThE bOwL is other posters dignifying the OP with a serious response! The paradox has spread,
WE ARE DOOMED!
DOOOOOMED!

reply to post by kidney thief


I gave you a star. I hope you get an applause for that. Thanks for the reality check.

Fine, don't believe me.

When Nagin is facing charges in a few days and Clinton has to travel to China in order to secure his release maybe you will see.

(I had to give kidney thief a star too, that was pretty funny )

[edit on 6/9/2009 by whatukno]

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by vox2442

 

He's under quarantine, not a hostage. If he shows no symptoms, he'll be out in a couple of days. Like everyone else.

Unless the Chinese government decides to trump up some bogus espionage charges against him from his monitored phone calls.

And if he does show symptoms? The Chinese don't have the best human rights record on the planet. He may face the firing squad for having the swine flu.

I'm sorry but to think that the Chinese are interested in a small time crook like Nagin, is ludicrous at best!! To quarantine is their usual protocol when it comes to the the new H1N1. They learned that the hard way with the Bird Flu. Too bad Mexico didn't follow suit.

[edit on 9-6-2009 by paxnatus]

Ditto Stormdancer...

They can keep him

Please, China - Keep Him, we do NOT want him back

International law? Sorry, but the only way to enforce your rights is with a gun. If you can't walk around with a firearm, you shouldn't expect rights.

Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
International law? Sorry, but the only way to enforce your rights is with a gun. If you can't walk around with a firearm, you shouldn't expect rights.

You know, I'd honestly thought this thread couldn't get anymore absurd, but tying it into 2nd amendment rights ... damn, that's just plain artful.

Thank you, LordBaskettIV. You've raised the bar for all of us.

Here's what the Consulate General has to say about Chinese Quarantine Procedures.

Decide for yourself.

shanghai.usembassy-china.org.cn...

Seven days is a good amount of time to build up a nice espionage case or possibly even charge Nagin with terror crimes by using a biological weapon against the peoples republic.

[edit on 6/9/2009 by whatukno]

reply to post by whatukno


How about this, a friendly wager. If they charge him with espionage, I will acknowledge that you were correct. Then I will contact the mods and ask them to IP ban me so I can't post again, since I am obviously out of touch. And if they don't charge him, you come back and post that you were wrong and ask for an IP ban of your account?

Deal?

reply to post by Karlhungis


How about this. If they charge him or execute him you apologize, if they release him unharmed then I do.

No need to ban anyone.

There are after all worse theories on this site. Least this one has China's historical record of human rights violations to back it up.