Time to familiarize yourself with this company ... seriously!

i think we take technology for granted and should welcome this technology to us, as we may very well need it someday.

reply to post by notreallyalive

you mean they havn't already?.well you know thats bound to happen. fda - federal death administrators

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I've always believed (when it comes to the 'beast 666' implanted chip) that people using and benefiting from this tech will be common practice.

I've always thought he isn't going to pop out tomorrow and demand every single person in the world be chipped. Rather everyone the world over will be use to the technology already.

More that he 'forces' as the good book states, ALL mankind to receive HIS mark. There's a difference in this. I think mankind will make huge leaps in this tech to take human health to the next level. Many benefits for so many suffering today from diseases that this tech will cure/help.

Sometime in the future however, once chipping tech becomes the norm, I believe, this 'beast/world leader' will arise using the current fully accepted tech that everyone has/needs and the 'OMG no way!' factor of being chipped wont exist.

reply to post by Burginthorn
so, you think the MOB itself will just be an upgrade? question is, is it going to be a hardware upgrade or a downloadable one over the web?

reply to post by schrodingers dog

Hmmm! So it has finally arrived and it is for our 'good'.

Interesting.

Hasn't it already been proved that the RF Chip causes tumours in animals. Why are we going to be 'ingesting' chips to 'monitor ourselves'?

Conducting a small experiment on myself, without going into my own health history but I had heart, kidney, lung and various other chronic problems. Nearly three years ago I stopped going to the doctor. I stopped taking all medications except for natural herbal treatments, vitamins and a healthy veg based diet.

I have not been seriously sick except for a flu, which I treated with hot black currant, brandy, whisky, echinacea, vit c and elderberry extract. And I had a tooth infection treated with tea tea.

I have not died. I have not become seriously ill. I have become healthier and happier.

I recommend this to anyone who dare take this course and is willing to trust their own instincts and seek out natural treatments to any problem that might come along.

Medicine is just a big business and it is in their interest to keep you sick.

I am now well........or at least have been for nearly three years and not in need of any doctor!

The Proteus web site does not look legitimate.....strange...

There is a company outside of Chicago- which developed out of the (then) very small, yet very well-endowed nano group at Northwestern University (which worked on organic and inorganic nano research and was funded by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute and the Dept. of Energy.

www.nanosphere.us...

Initially the work conducted at Nanosphere (developed and run by the same Northwestern grads) was to ID infections, genetic problems (pre-conception testing, BRCA testing,and the like, etc.,) EX VIVO.

On a plate in a lab from a voluntarily-given sample.

They now work very closely with Argonne National Laboratory (part of the DOE, but directly linked to the Science and Technology [S&T] group at CIA), and is located outside of Chicago- in the middle of nowhere.

ANL works in conjunction with the University of Chicago- from a lab that grew out of the Manhattan Project, and the site is guarded by Marines: (usually Marines only guard Government sites with nukes- but in our case in the States- chemical or biological weapons are equivalent to nukes, due to the 1970's Contravention on chemical or biological warfare- hence the Marines, choppers and F-16's flying above; motion sensors on the perimeter and the surrendering of one's Passport while working there). ANL is #4 on the ENTIRE US Terrorist Site watch list- above National nuclear facilities, the Golden Gate Bridge, Statue of Liberty, etc.---- and the facility conducts high-energy physics (with unbelievably rare and highly dangerous radiological elements); nanotechnology for both materials science and biologics and also does classified work in weaponized biological warfare agents: the Ames strain of Anthrax that was sent to Congress after 9/11 was not from Ames, Iowa, but from Argonne, which, coincidentally, is recieving between 10 and 50M dollars over the next three years to build larger biological labs and enhanced Level 4 research areas (yes- they exist there now- it's not just CDC and USAMRIID/Ft. Detrick which have Level 4 bio labs).

Check it out- follow the rabbit hole. You can even find all of the PCR primer sequences for H1N1 published at ANL.gov, as well as all of the RNA sequences, in pieces (M2 regions, etc.)- if you are an intrepid molecular biologist, it's not hard to figure out H1N1's complete nucleic acid sequence, and thus, its risk to humans. When it mutates we might not see such "free information"- or we might- and then who knows which country will weaponize it first- the US or "rogue states"?

Porton Down in the UK publishes sequences freely, as well- I'm sure by now they've got the H1N1 genome up. Why don't we just wave a red neon flag, pointing at the sites, and say- weaponize us????

ANL and Nanosphere are very frightening places to be- and as many researchers in the field have "disappeared" or have met with tragedy, I'm not sorry that I'm no longer in any way "aware" of any of this.

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BTW- The Nano group at Northwestern University now has (after about 10 years since the Nanosphere chaps graduated), an entirely new, state-of-the art building that DWARFS any other building on campus, with perhaps, the exception of the near-European-sized Gothic Cathedral which is in the center of the NW campus in Evanston, IL.

The Nano building is now key-card access only.

I dont really have a problem with advances in medical technology because it is everyones right to seek medical council when necessary. However, this technology is really starting to push the boundaries of what is reality and what is 'sci-fi'. People talk of overpopulation of this planet and from where i'm standing, a breakthrough like this is only going to aggrivate the problem. Can anyone imagine the state Africa would be in now without AIDS. Now im not saying AIDS was a good thing, what im saying is the living conditions in Africa now would be 10 times worse if AIDS had not ravaged the area. Starvation and lack of water would most likley have killed more than the AIDS virus has done. It begs the question, are somthings just left alone? Are somethings just natures way of keeping us all in check? This planet just does not have the space or resources to support and vast population increase. I would welcome this new technology if i wasnt so worried about the state of the planet.

It just strikes me that before we start making everyone impervious to disease, we should be looking to colonise areas that could support this population growth. The money used to create this technology should have been used to develop reliable clean energy so we have the infastructure to cope with the massive growth in world population. When this is developed fully, then we should start to look at this kind of advancement.

Oh and another thing. If we started curing diseases that were put there by nature to keep population at an acceptable level, the value of human life will fall dramatically. The value of life in India and China for example is much lower because there are so many of them. Just like any resource, the value goes down when the supply goes up. The more people there are the less valuable they become to others. That is why in the West there is a high value on human life. There isnt as many of us.

I hope i did not offend anyone during this post. I am just looking at it from a different perspective. Im sure my views would change if myself or a member of my family could be saved by this technology. But, ignorance is bliss for me in this case.

I like this part:

One of the significant challenges preventing widespread use of implanted medical device therapies is the disintegration of active electronics upon exposure to body fluids. Proteus’ ChipSkin™ technology eliminates this issue by providing an extremely thin and durable protective layer that ensures long-term survival and performance of micro-scale implanted devices.

Yes, let's ensure the long-term survival of the CHIP, nevermind the PATIENT!!!

Originally posted by Venetian
Yes, let's ensure the long-term survival of the CHIP, nevermind the PATIENT!!!

I think that the method of thinking in the article is: When the device itself can survive for longer, it can diagnose / reach certain places easier, and thus treatment for the patient will be better / easier.

In other words, the long-term survival of the chip will in the end aid in the long-term survival of the patient.

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stage one in the total control of the people, we will not be able to buy, sell or trade without the mark, it will be placed in the top of your right hand or forehead. beware of the beast!

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Awesome find and post SD. S&F.

Off the top - this technology is incredible - it promises to make personalized medicine a reality - and destroy Big Pharma's blockbuster industry in the process. A good thing, I think.

On the flip side, the technology could easily be subverted, and used to harm people purposefully. [Or maybe, cause harm accidentally.]

It's all so confusing. Should we trust these guys? Who should we trust?



...Takes tongue out of cheek. Logs off to go play in garden.

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Harrts,

You're right about epidemics- they are nature's way of levelling the playing field. Throughout history there have been massive pandemics of measles, anthrax, smallpox, plague, flu, etc., just when the world overreached. Just when we took too many trees, farmed too much land- fought too many wars.

I respect the self-correction mechanism very much, and think it's critical to earth's homeostasis.

What makes me worried, though, is how we play with microbes- we inculcate virulence, we design methods for adhesion of microbes to lung tissue- we get in the way of a powerful force, or which we understand maybe 0.1%. THAT's what makes me worry.

It's like climate change- 90% is driven by magnetic pole changes, sunspots, etc., but 10% is because we are getting in the way. We NEED carbon dioxide- plants live on it and produce oxygen and food and all we need to live- it's the first --and most important part of the ecosystem. Carbon offsets don't work; we need to stop dumping dioxin into rivers! We need to stop finding Prozac and Synthroid in lakes.

The earth will self-correct from all these things- but we may or may not be here to witness it, due to our incredible hubris- our thinking that we know enough to change a system of infinite possibility and probability.

Originally posted by secretagent woooman
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No offense, but spending the last year on this site has done nothing to prove any conspiracy theories for me but it does show how addictive anger is. What I have noticed is a lot of people want to feel they are so important that A) the government wants to silence them and B) a government with a HUGE mess on its hands that it cannot manage at present also has the time and money to follow them like a nanny.

Face it, they DO NOT have the time or funds to track the whereabouts and mischief of more than 300 million people at any given time, if they did the illegal immigration and anti-terrorism situations would be nonexistent. Even if they did, are most of you important enough to be offed? Nope, and I'm willing to bet the local FBI has never heard of any of you. One thing is for sure, if there is an extinction level event in the coming years and some of you are lucky enough to land on no-feed lists for your efforts, I will apologize to you profusely and share my bread with you.

It's not about constantly tracking every human being in the country, its about being able to track a single or select few individuals if they decide they are a threat. Its not like they are gonna actively monitor everyone, just the ones they want to. Point being, if they want to find you, they can.

Besides, don't think for a minute that the government is actually trying to stop illegal immigration and terrorism . They use these as tools in order to push their New World Order agenda.

Anyway, I was reading an article showing how British scientists are tracking penguins from their poo, so I'm sure they would have no problem tracking people from the mess we leave behind in our daily lives

Can anyone say. "The Borg"? What TPTB are doing is to put the stuff out on TV, internet to get everyone use to it, then little by little they'll tell everyone its for medical stuff, keep your kids safe, keep terrorists away, better banking, etc. etc. etc. And most of the sheeple will buy it hook , line and sinker. Then they will own all of you. I'll pass.

I think this is the perfect example of something good that can be quickly turned into something really bad if put in the wrong hands.

But isn't that the way with most technology? Escpecially when it comes to advancing the medical field?

Think about it -- they can pretty much use anything designed to save your life -- to also end it.

I think in this case the good far out weighs the possible bad.

Why do people fear technology so much?

Just think how less than 10 years ago, search engines weren't ubiquitous. What would we do without them now?

Just think how silicon wafers have enabled hundreds of millions of transistors to be rammed into a single chip so you can sit here on ATS and rant away at how 'they' will control us, all with the power of pentium chip and quad core processing, for example.

Just think how some can write asinine comments whilst sitting in a traffic jam on their lovely iPhone, and the instant communication these portable devices allows them.

Now try to think outside the box and imagine the technology in 20-50 years. Basically a singularity will happen where technology is able to map out the very source code of the brain and interfaces will exists with the very neurons that make you move your fingers to type the stuff you feel others should read.

Now imagine being able to 'interface' through a virtual network of amalgamated technology where you could instantly communicate a recipe for sponge cake by creating the neurological pathways that happen anyway through memory and tactile experiences.

Basically, through singularitarianism, you'd be able to download experiences and real world objects via email, much like you can view documents via attachments or listen to music via a podcast, for example.

If you could receive the actual atomic information of structure in an email or brain-machine interface, then you'd be able to interact with real world objects from remote locations, such as this video.

People worry too much about TPTB. There will be a revolutionary evolution where echelons of society will no longer exist. A totalitarian authority trying to rule the underclass with an iron fist will be a thing of the past. We will live in a beautiful world of true interaction; a Global village in a digital realm.

If you disagree with all this, then why in the hell are you even on the internet where every character you type is watched and stored. Just grab your wooden stick and go outside and kill some bison, like the neanderthals that you so crave to be and hold onto.

While there are some disturbing ramifications here, remember that all technology can be thwarted (and often with even lower tech solutions).... So that should make some feel better...

(remember a towel-wrapped around his head Arnie pulling out that nasty nose electrode in Total Recall?)

Imagine a suit that blocks all internal body electronic device transmissions, etc. just for a start....

reply to post by thedonjuan

Trust me, they are arresting illegal aliens and deporting them. I was present when two were arrested in April on a drunk driving stop and they were promptly deported.