UFO/Alien Govt. Disclosure Puppet hopefuls wake Up.

Disclosure?
Mr. Steve Basset has been busy with his PRG drumming up public support.
His Idea is to generate a public cry for disclosure. In effect he wants the power of public opinion to sway the Government into releasing information many of us believe is being withheld.
PRG want us to persuade the WHPC to focus on some key issues, individuals and to ask the Obama admin about these issues and individuals and disclosure.The WHPC have many journalists, mostly MSM@WHPC.
His million fax on Washington is part of this plan of pressuring the President of the USA into dislosure.

Now, MSM. I'm getting a bell ringing already. Basset is asking us to lobby the MSM in the WHPC to asks questions, to try and get disclosure.

As part of the fax campaign, PRG asks people to highlite some interesting individuals(amongst others). These Being L. Rockerfeller and his initiative for Disclosure, Bill Clinton and Bill Richardson.
PRG also mention Hillary "runner up gets to be Sec. Of State" Clinton and Joe Podesta.

I have questions.

Are these RPG people for real, or are we being Played?
Rockerfellers, Clintons, and other politicians and lackys. Obama and his admin are going to feel the pressure of a fax about Trilateral Commision and Builderburg familly Rockerfellers? L.Rockerfellers "ufo" interests? Please.
I mean conspiracy theories abound when we talk NWO and these names are mentioned, but as soon as one of the Elite mentions UFO, it must be legitimate? Is it a game?

This seems absurd to me.
We have a group who wants us to lobby MSM journos imbedded in the Whitehouse to badger the Admin about NWO stalewarts the Rockerfellers, Clintons and Puppets like Podesta and Richardson and UFO disclosure.

Does this make sense?

WHY DO WE NEED ANY OF THESE PEOPLE?

In an age were we have grown tired of a lying and manipulative MSM Media. We think it will bend to our will? Or faxes?
In an era were Government has continued to restrain the freedoms of Individuals, information and knowledge, we somehow think it will hand it out.
Why do we need these people to tell us?
Why is it we are being led to believe that we need any Government to give us an O.K.? "We know you know that we know".
It seems to me it is like a shell game run by some individuals in the UFO community.
One that paints the Government as the Key to all our disclosure problems and beliefs if they'll only just tell us that what we believe is real.
Middle men telling us they KNOW(in their books), but they need the Govt. aswell but it won't join the party.

I hear alot of people saying that they are awake, that they know. Yet Puppets waiting for the G-man to give you the nod of approval.

Look at all the other Govt. that have had recent disclosure of FOI releases. What did we get?
What revelations came forward? What changes took place?

Anyone else frustrated?

Sometimes it feels like goons are playing the UFO community against the Govt.

There will be a disclosure. It's got to happen. Otherwise when all the sightings peak at their maximum in history they'll have a lot more explaining to do than if they just told the world now.

reply to post by watchtheashes


That is assuming they know more than we do.

We keep gettng told they know more by certain people.

We keep getting prodded with books and whistler blowers.

Groups and Insiders.

I think everyone is too over-critical about analysis because if you really open your eyes you will see everything around you makes sense.

reply to post by watchtheashes

I agree, which is why this feels like a charade or game to me.

People seem almost be depending on the Govt. and the MSM.
Historically, they have never been ones to depend on, especially for the truth.

My question to all of this is, why now? Why wasn't there a big push 10 years ago, 5 years ago, like there is today? Italy, Brazil and France disclosing their files now. Do they possibly know of an event soon to happen and have no choice but to start disclosure? Or...are we all just sick and tired of the lies and run out of patience? I know I am and have.

reply to post by Guzzeppi


Perhaps they are releasing them because, there isn't any real info in there.
There is no disclosure.

There is a perceprtion that there is tonnes of evidence that the governmennt is withholding.
That is what all the 'Ufo experts" hve been selling us for years. Insider accounts, whistler blower etc, all painting the Govt. as withholding all this, yet PRG want us to demand that they give us that which they have had no trouble keeping secret for so long.
It just doen't make any sense.

And yes I too am sick and tired of it.

i am sick and tired too...but then when i think how many ranked witnesses, great footage and what we gain if a dosclosure exists, imagine knowing that we do have brothers in the skies...and maybe we will start doing contact....what we gain is worted so please people dont get bored..get tired ..not bored

We are already way past this. Basset gave the govts of the world a deadline that has passed. He now has no other choice but to disclose the truth to the world himself. This is now in progress. Basset will hold 20 international summits, each one revealing a little bit more. Only $150-$300 a ticket. Get yours today and support the disclosure gravy train!

reply to post by heineken

I agree. That is why I am saying, why do we need the Govt.
We don't.
Why wait or even ask a group that we think is withholding evidence to co-operate. @$#% 'em. I say.
As for trying to persuade the MSM.
Why do we need to ask them to report the truth?

What if the US government comes out & states they don't know what's going on & they're just as confused as many others who are trying to figure out what it's all about?

Originally posted by contemplator
We are already way past this. Basset gave the govts of the world a deadline that has passed. He now has no other choice but to disclose the truth to the world himself. This is now in progress. Basset will hold 20 international summits, each one revealing a little bit more. Only $150-$300 a ticket. Get yours today and support the disclosure gravy train!

Now you see my point.

We are being played by one group against the Govt.

The Govt. gets painted as the key that we need.
Basset gets us involved as part of the Shell game that hides the truth.
We believe the Govt. is hiding something because people like Basset(and the book and DVD parade) keep insisting they know this for sure.

He then asks us to ask the MEDIA and the Admin to tell us the truth. WTF. Since when have they played ball?

His PRG-X pax and Summit 2010 gets heaps of coverage and media. We get Zip.
He started way back with Dr. Steven Greer.

Originally posted by Sam60
What if the US government comes out & states they don't know what's going on & they're just as confused as many others who are trying to figure out what it's all about?

It dos not matter what the Govt. says. If they say they don't know-it s a cover up. Catch 22 for the Govt. but who cares about them, they have set themselves up to look this way and I believe Basset knows this so plays the UFO public against the Govt.
Unless it discloses the shell game continues.

We have all the "experts" claiming they do know. But that we need a critical mass to achieve disclosure.
Whilst the DVD, Conference and UFO book mill churn out more "whistle blowers and insiders claims" and "testimonies".

[edit on 8-6-2009 by atlasastro]

reply to post by atlasastro

Maybe I'm a being a bit thick at the end of this long weekend, but I'm not quite following you......

reply to post by atlasastro


you are right but there is a big but....the only thing i think i can do..which btw im doing it..is having my video camera with me all the time...we dont have to forget that we need the gov because of the technology and also the past 50 yrs research..it will save us some time...still it would nice to have a thread what can we do without the gov...maybe cropcircle invitation for communication would be a nice idea

Originally posted by atlasastro
reply to post by watchtheashes

 

I agree, which is why this feels like a charade or game to me.

People seem almost be depending on the Govt. and the MSM.
Historically, they have never been ones to depend on, especially for the truth.

But they have a lot more resources, they can send people to the moon, launch space programs like the STS Shuttle, send up telescopes and satellites, send explorers to Mars and other planets in our solar system and beyond. They can setup a base and telescope in Antarctica. And most important, they have the military and all the intelligence that belongs to that branch, no one can monitor our earth, sky and seas better than them.

Its all about intelligence and information gathering, it takes a lot of resources. I for one absolutetly think that the military have loads of evidence, just as the Disclosure Project witnesses stated.

reply to post by Sam60


Even if the Govt. comes out and say they have no Idea either, it will be called as disinfo. They will not be believed.
Catch 22.

reply to post by heineken


I agree.
We need to be more proactive as individual, as part of a greater hole. I think many people are just waiting for the Govt. to say its OK to believe in UFO and ET, if you know what I mean. It is puppet mentality. We are being played by both sides.
Those that know of the huge interest have no trouble comming out saying they know "this" and "that" but still need the Govt. as a fall back cover up factor as an excuse as to why they don't have evidence etc. And that WE need to get the Government to back these stories up by disclosing info.
When the Govt. won't disclose, it is not those claims we question, but the Govt.
Played.

Originally posted by heineken
reply to post by atlasastro

 

you are right but there is a big but....the only thing i think i can do..which btw im doing it..is having my video camera with me all the time...we dont have to forget that we need the gov because of the technology and also the past 50 yrs research..it will save us some time...still it would nice to have a thread what can we do without the gov...maybe cropcircle invitation for communication would be a nice idea

tnks to this thread i got this idea and started this 1

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by reugen



Its all about intelligence and information gathering, it takes a lot of resources. I for one absolutetly think that the military have loads of evidence, just as the Disclosure Project witnesses stated.

Military, Intelligence and Info. How often do they share it?
The UFO community know the answer to this.
Asking the Miltary to share intel with civilians?

This is why we are being played.

You have one group telling us we would have the truth if it wasn't for the MSM, Govt and military.
I mean, duh.

If these groups don't play ball(MSM, Govt. and military), all the insiders, whistle blowers and groups like PRG(the book and dvd brigade) still win. Their claims are neither verified(by disclosure) nor contradicted by a Govt./Military that claims "we no nothing". Even if they do, the Govt. would still be accused of holding back intel and info. Traditionally they have done this so it makes sense anyway.

Which means to me, why are we wasting our time with the Military, Govt and MSM.