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How do conspiracy theorists know the truth when we all have acccess to the same info?

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posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by Rocketgirl
There are some conspiracy theorists that can make others believe there is a conspiracy behind crayons.



there IS a conspiracy behind Crayons!

to make big $$$ !



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude

I am really confused. Where does one find the truth? Who do we trust? Who should we not trust?



The truth is within you.

Do not trust anyone except yourself



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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reply to post by muzzleflash
 


That's not what I meant. I was making a point in that post.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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well, funny this. all the crap gets all the attention ?? maybe the TV mind controlled freaks are here at ATS making nonsense threads and overcats what is realy going on !!!



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp

I cannot ignore footage from so-called "truthers" that is clearly altered to further their own profiteering agendas. One of the key questions espoused by the CT is "who benefits". I would have to say both the enterprising PTB and the astute CT looking to make a name for his/herself. They're both good capitalists, cut from the same cloth.


so CT's always think the same way huh?

i guess that makes it really easy to argue with them than, since they all believe the same thing and are all trying to sell something




you my friend, are the biggest conspiracy theorist here



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Rocketgirl
reply to post by muzzleflash
 


That's not what I meant. I was making a point in that post.


i know im sorry hehe

but i was making a counter point to show how easy words are to play with



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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What? There was no way my words could be played with as you so put it.

Go buy yourself a life.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
i mean, there is only one real theory here

the NWO - there is no alternate theory of any renown


I've read plenty. I have my own. Renoun is irrelevant.


there is only 1 , and that is the stuff you see everywhere around you


In the end there can be only one.


there is a reason why no one suggested that Oprah was the evil mastermind behind the plots to take over the world, Because thats absurd


Actually, there is something to that one, much more than thermite in the twin towers. It is also a bit more gray in shade than pure evil darkness.


however the reason you keep seeing "NWO this NWO that" because it actually exists

denying it just means you have not come to the point where you accept that there is no alternative reality to make it go away lol


In a way it does but I see things most people won't bother to listen to and do not fit the prefabs. I feel like an outcast among outcasts, which is fine.

Things are not just black and white and who is whom just isn't made clear by association alone.


Originally posted by muzzleflash
The truth is within you.

Do not trust anyone except yourself


Say that again three times in light of your previous statements. If it still makes sense I, well...

So really it's a game of trust your heart to believe what you've been told to be the only possible alternate theory to the official line.

Most have no direct access to any data and therefore must trust other than themselves. Full self-sufficiency is pure delusion. You always depend on a previous link in a chain.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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Well I gave you a star. I could swear I saw a video on 911 that showed the plane approaching, but I cant find it anywhere on google or youtube. I must be remembering a recreation based on eye witness testimony.

However, isnt it fair to say that since two planes hit the WTC then it is most likely that a plane hit the Pentagon?



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
so CT's always think the same way huh?


Things come in degrees, same cloth or no. Yes, at the core, they think the same way-- that there is a conspiracy of some sort.


i guess that makes it really easy to argue with them than, since they all believe the same thing and are all trying to sell something


Some are defintely trying to sell something and end up being substitute authority figures. "Sell" doesn't necessarily mean for $$ either.

I do find it rather easy to kindle an arguement or even blatant hostility depending on how extreme and committed to their's or another's views they might be.




you my friend, are the biggest conspiracy theorist here


In order for it to be a conspiracy, it must share a mutually agreed agenda. Simply sharing a common mindset and/or motive does not make a conspiracy. It would be like saying there is a conspiracy amongst cats to kill mice.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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To be honest 99% of conspiracy theorists are very far from the truth.

Furthermore they just stick with the very basic and superficial info being fed to them and very rarely go deeper down the rabbit hole.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Estess
To be honest 99% of conspiracy theorists are very far from the truth.

Furthermore they just stick with the very basic and superficial info being fed to them and very rarely go deeper down the rabbit hole.


Well now, I see you must be a Satanist because you have a pentagram in your avatar. There is no other possibility.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Kailassa
 


Well I gave you a star. I could swear I saw a video on 911 that showed the plane approaching, but I cant find it anywhere on google or youtube. I must be remembering a recreation based on eye witness testimony.

However, isnt it fair to say that since two planes hit the WTC then it is most likely that a plane hit the Pentagon?

If you believe the official story it may be.

I prefer to not believe anything; to take each piece of evidence for what it is.
Belief clouds rational thinking.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by Estess
To be honest 99% of conspiracy theorists are very far from the truth.

Furthermore they just stick with the very basic and superficial info being fed to them and very rarely go deeper down the rabbit hole.


Well now, I see you must be a Satanist because you have a pentagram in your avatar. There is no other possibility.


The pentagram is a Wiccan symbol. Wiccans don't worship satan, do your research.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Are you implying that two planes didnt hit the WTC? Now I know I can find video proof of that.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by Estess
To be honest 99% of conspiracy theorists are very far from the truth.

Furthermore they just stick with the very basic and superficial info being fed to them and very rarely go deeper down the rabbit hole.


Well now, I see you must be a Satanist because you have a pentagram in your avatar. There is no other possibility.


Don't worry, I'm not a Satanist; it just looked like a cool pic so I decided to use it



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Rocketgirl

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Well now, I see you must be a Satanist because you have a pentagram in your avatar. There is no other possibility.


The pentagram is a Wiccan symbol. Wiccans don't worship satan, do your research.


I've done enough research; I hardly recall most of the nitty gritty specifics of it for every adaptation but I do know better. It's use is hardly limited to Wicca. Whether or not it is inverted changes the meaning. I was bringing estess' point to light in practical terms through irony. Perhaps your were being as well? The intertubes don't carry that subband signal too well.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:37 PM
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So what I have gathered from this thread, and correct me if you disagree, is that there is no truth, only individual perception. We really cant rely on any source of information, because it could all be intentionally false or merely someone elses misinterpretation. So therefore truth is dead, because there are no absolutes in a world of perception. Therefore we can only trust our judgements derived from our own limited faculties.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:51 PM
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We don't claim to know the truth. We just know that we have been lied to because we can see the coverups happening, while the average person does not look in depth into issues. We want to reveal to truth, but the govt [including media] conceals the evidence.



posted on Jun, 5 2009 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Rocketgirl
 

Isnt it possible that they could have an agenda every bit as nefarious as what they accuse the conspirators of doing?


possible? sure.

probable? not on your life there buddy.

compared to the fact that the people usually being suspected of doing something nefarious have TRILLIONS of $ at their disposal, compared to the fact that most conspiracy theorists have ZILCH DINERO to execute any type of "nefarious plan"

i'd say the odds are in the favor of the gazillionaire being the culprit.

"because they can."



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