Originally posted by aeroslag
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Another way i can put it into perspective; The animal kingdom does not require laws, nor do they require an economic system such as capitalism. Sure
animals compete amongst each other, but humans are conscious and have brains so we can work out our issues with wisdom and knowledge.
You're probably wondering how Aligator's have been around for over 200 million years without conforming to Capitalism? Easy, they did not conform to
an indoctrinated form of control/slavery. That's all.
edit: grammar
[edit on 5-6-2009 by aeroslag]
edit: i also want to apologize for my anger. I'm not usually hostile but I'm just in one of those moods where I'm sick of all the BS in the world
and all the dumb people. Please wake up people...it sucks being alone.
[edit on 5-6-2009 by aeroslag]
Aeroslag,
I can understand your frustration. I think a lot of people are utterly sick of the lies, deceit and open corruption we see on a daily basis.
However, I'll point one thing out - we do NOT live in a capitalist society, which is a very common misconception, and I think part of the reason why
we have our current discontent.
Animals run on true anarchy - the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest. They constantly have to struggle for survival.
If you really want to take free market capitalism at face value, what it represents is:
- private ownership of the means of production
- no government influence beyond protecting rights
- individuals contracting with each other for goods and services
- individuals determining price
Please note as well - the means of production are not tools. A hammer will sit on a table forever until it is picked up and put to use. It is YOU, the
individual. Your intellect, your mind, your intuition, your dreams, your ambition.
This of course puts a different spin on socialism, communism and fascism...all these systems place the ownership of means of production in the hands
of a collective or a state.
Free market capitalism is the only economic system that means individuals "own" themselves.
When you hire a plumber, or a carpenter, or a handyman, you are essentially working within the free market, yet there still remains an element that is
not free - income taxation. Regulations, subsidies, taxes, all those are marks of government influence; all have different effects on goods and
services; for example, subsidize something, and you get more of it.
And inevitably, government intervention is tainted by corporate influence on government officials.
Think of what we've seen with the bailouts - did the government bail us out?
All the claims of socialism or communism or "capitalism is to blame" are in correct. Someone believing in a capitalistic ideology would let every
single bank tainted with toxic assets fail, to let the economic system clean itself out. It's like a body cleansing itself by fever. Instead, the
government is prolonging the fever, and harming the body.
No communist would hand over billions to banks or automakers, at least not without creating a state monopoly as a result - since we have banks and
automakers that are not owned and administrated by the government, we can come to the conclusion that the US government is not communist.
Likewise, they are not socialist; socialism is egalitarian, representing group ownership of the means of production. I dont see share certificates
dropping onto my doorstep. Not socialist then.
However, the government IS bailing out corporations, which in turn scratch their back; most of Congress is invested in various stocks and shares of
Big Business, through legal insider trading.
This leads us to the uncomfortable conclusion that the economic system at the heart of America is CORPORATIST; and likewise, that means the US is run
on FASCISM. That is the true system we find ourselves living in.