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Richard Siegel v. Avatar, LLC et al
Lawsuit Details
RFC Case Number: C-R09-827A
Court Case Number: 3:09-cv-00827-BEN-WMC
File Date: Monday, April 20, 2009
Plaintiff: Richard Siegel
Plaintiff Counsel: David M. Beckwith of McDermott Will & Emery
Defendant: Avatar, LLC
Sofia Shafquat
Cause: 17:101 Copyright Infringement
Court: California Southern District Court
Judge: Judge Roger T. Benitez
Referred To: Magistrate Judge William McCurine, Jr.
There are truthers in here that still use the video from that "documentary" to "prove" there were explosions.
Originally posted by Arsenis
I was kinda questioning if you are stating since that video is doctored are you saying that is proof that there werent explotions.
Source
Mr. Siegel’s claim of infringement is false. First, well before the release of “911 Mysteries,” Avatar obtained express permission from both Blue Star Media Group (co-owner of the copyright in the “Eyewitness” work) through its managing partner Jim Brewster, and from Mr. Siegel’s partner David Shaw, to incorporate limited segments of “Eyewitness” in “911 Mysteries.” Mr. Siegel’s two partners were fully cooperative with Avatar in licensing this material. Second, even if Avatar had not obtained express permission from the creators of “9/11 Eyewitness” to use their material in “911 Mysteries,” the 38 seconds of incorporated footage that Mr. Siegel has taken issue with is fully protected by the copyright Doctrine of Fair Use.
While Avatar was working with Mr. Siegel’s partners, Mr. Siegel completely delegated the handling of this matter to them, even though Avatar had included Mr. Siegel in its initial contact letter. Additionally, Mr. Siegel is indiscriminately filing takedown demands against other works on the subject of 9/11, as demonstrated by the recent removal from YouTube (also initiated by Mr. Siegel) of “September 11th Revisited” by Dustin Mugford – a video that does not even use any material from “9/11 Eyewitness.”
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
but you can't hear anything in the videos that compares to explosives used in demolitions of large buildings.
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
There were vehicles and other things exploding
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Firstly, these weren't your typical demolitions. Second, no two demolitions are the same.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Third, yes you absolutely can hear explosions used in demolitions of large buildings if you take the extensive time to research demolitions.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
There are demolitions out there that sound exactly like the demolitions in Mr. Siegel's video. I know, I have one. If you research it, you will find it.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Vehicles don't spontaneously combust for no reason.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Further, you haven't read a single account of firefighters or other survivors getting blown around stairwells "like pinballs" from the explosions that were being detonated. Or people getting killed or severely injured in the basement levels from the multiple explosions.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Please show proof of vehicles exploding everywhere.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
You have no clue either because you deny the evidence or you're unresearched.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
That's why this case will be thrown out of court.
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
I agree. We haven't seen buildings demolished by planes before.
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
Can you link to a video where we can hear these in the towers?
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
Do you have a link to your video?
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
I already said that there were other explosions. Burning buildings will cause them.
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
how did the living witnesses get out in time?
Originally posted by Curious_Agnostic
I haven't heard the excuse for why the tops of the buildings started falling first.
"With the use of delays, we can control pretty much where the debris lands; we can control vibration; we can control noise levels. Timing and delays are the keys to just about everything in our business."
Source: Baltimore blasters article, Newscientist.com
“To bring [a building] down as we want, so . . . no other structure is harmed, the demolition must be completely planned, using the right explosive [and] the right pattern of laying the charges. If the 110-story Twin Towers had fallen over, they would have caused an enormous amount of damage to buildings covering many city blocks. But the towers came straight down. Accordingly, the official theory, by implying that fire produced collapses that perfectly mimicked the collapses that have otherwise been produced only by precisely placed explosives, requires a miracle.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
And now a word from the CEO of CDI, Mark Loizeaux:
Source: Baltimore blasters article, Newscientist.com
“To bring [a building] down as we want, so . . . no other structure is harmed, the demolition must be completely planned, using the right explosive [and] the right pattern of laying the charges. If the 110-story Twin Towers had fallen over, they would have caused an enormous amount of damage to buildings covering many city blocks. But the towers came straight down. Accordingly, the official theory, by implying that fire produced collapses that perfectly mimicked the collapses that have otherwise been produced only by precisely placed explosives, requires a miracle.
CDI also aided in the cleanup of the WTC.