100% proof of U.F.O.S in space - You cannot debunk this one

Originally posted by watchtheashes
reply to post by reugen

 

Okay I know this sounds crazy and against the laws of the universe but it used to appear in the west brighter than Venus (Like Venus was really dim compared to this in the sky) and then now it appears in the east. One night I saw two in the sky. That confirms its a UFO and not a real "star." That's actually how I believed this whole Maitreya thing evidence wise. Faith is another issue. It appears nightly, sometimes it can be seen in the day. (My mother has seen it while picking up siblings at 3:00 PM.)

[edit on 6/4/2009 by watchtheashes]

Could well be something like this that would be large enough to be seen in the sky.

Many people say that this object just appeared out of nowhere.

There is an excellent thread here by Mike that you would be interested in Gigantic Alien Craft Photographed By Cassini! NASA’s Cover-Up Blown? you may have seen it before, nevertheless very interesting times indeed.

why on earth would they dump water ?

now my books on space flight has gone upsidedown , i thought the point was to get things up into space so that we dont have to spend time and effort on simple things ,

and didnt the astronauts allready drink their urine years ago ?

but if its true that they dump water out there , then they havent learnt one thing

as on below as above it seams, idiots... now they would have to tow that same ammount up for a couple of hundred millions,.....

it obvius that thouse in charge of space exploration have no intention of it.

but dumping water i just dont buy that.

Thank you for the link I will definitely check that out. I'm adding to this thread because it just shows that there is indeed something going on here. This false star supplements the fact that we are not alone. The fact that we are not alone. I'm talking about "extra-terrestrials" in a different sense.

Originally posted by reugen
reply to post by franspeakfree

 

It can be explained that it is ice particles, debris separated from the shuttle that is pushed around by the shuttle thrusters. You know they can fire the thrusters quite delicate to keep the shuttle in place when releasing say a satellite or telescope that needs a special trajectory for its projected orbit.

Cheers, i am not saying this is the case but it does provide a plain and simple explanation.

The problem is reugen is that ice particles cannot defy the laws of physics? its so easy to throw out ice particles and space debris to offer an explanation to appease the inquisitives. However when you try bring in scientific fact in to the equation it all goes mysteriously quiet? unless of course if parallax is mentoned.

I accept parallax for some of the videos and I believe in one of my other NASA threads ArMap gives a very good demonstration of it. But in this case we have the shuttle as reference, therefore, it can't be used in this video.

Originally posted by zerbot565
why on earth would they dump water ?

dumping water i just dont buy that.

I don't buy it either and its refreshing to hear that others don't aswell . This is the explanation that is used time and time again please see here and here in order to divert the attention away form what these objects really are.

Why is it so hard to believe in UFOs? In fact the reason you don't is because you're accepting the "rational" explanation without realizing that they just come out and say it sometimes. I bet the star I'm seeing is just swamp gas too. I don't even know of any swamps round here.

reply to post by franspeakfree


exactly , i thought the point was to recycle everything of value up there so im lost.

but then again they arent in space , they are just in orbit a couple of km from the surface of earth.

so it would make thouse "livingthings" from here

reply to post by watchtheashes


because i have not seen the strange star you are speaking of, i am regularly checking the sky (ocular) by comparing it to my Stellarium map and i havent found any anomalies. I am quite sure that all the professional astronomers on earth can not be in on the alleged coverup so why havent we heard of anything of this in scientific papers, astronomy and science blogs, media an so on?

Regards.

reply to post by DoomsdayRex


Yeah..and yourself and more than a few others of you are argueing for the sake of argueing.
Not a particularly logical position either really is it. Unless of course you have a burning need or compulsion to argue for the sake of it, then it starts to approach OCD.

I see nothing illogical in what franspeakfree has said...placing videos of a shuttle water dump, (or 'ice crystals' from the shuttle frequently cited by NASA as an explaination of what is being recorded in space) and what others (myself included) are saying are videos of UFO's recorded from the shuttles onboard cameras, side by side for comparative purposes.

Perfectly logical in fact.

It shows, beyond reasonable doubt that whatever the objects being filmed are, that they are certainly NOT what the official explaination claim them to be. That in itself is newsworthy, and vindicates a lot of people who have scoffed at the weak 'Ice crystal' cover for years.

Of course, even if full disclosure happened today, there will still be people who will argue the facts, for the hell of it.

If you do not hold similar views to the OP or indeed the majority of posters in this thread, why then do you read these UFO threads?

If you're simply after an argument, why not create a thread enititled 'Who's up for a row'...you'll probably get loads of takers, and you'll leave this thread for people who have a genuine interest in the subject. Although i suspect, that would defeat your purpose of pseudointellectual sabotage, or otherwise muddying the waters.

Of course i could have said something else, but the filters would have picked it up.

kk i'm not a scientist but i took physics im starting to doubt these space videos, im sure researchers would identify any UFO's in the videos and i'm sure they've highlighted and checked those object, first of all why the hell would objects move in a linear motion in space if its a vaccum and #s flying everywhere, other than the obvious gravity created by planets or whatever like i said im not a scientist but i'm pretty sure not all objects in space are going to be moving in one uniform motion.

On Yahoo's homepage! How many hits does yahoo.ie get a day????

Well its ranked number 2 here www.alexa.com...

That means alottttttttttttttt of viewers. Oh yes preparation is in full swing!

[edit on 4-6-2009 by kcfusion]

Originally posted by kcfusion
On Yahoo's homepage! How many hits does yahoo.ie get a day????

Well its ranked number 2 here www.alexa.com...

That means alottttttttttttttt of viewers. Oh yes preparation is in full swing!

Get back to work!!

reply to post by reugen


You will see it. It does move about and change shape and pulsate and shines many colors.

Freaky stuff I know but I kid you not.

I have two telescopes. Ones a crappy Vivitar but the one I used to see the star up close the first time. Only at 50x too. Where are you located? I'm located in the Rocky Mountain area of the US. Lots of UFO activity over N O R A D. This is all over the world though.

One time after band practice I saw a triangular craft overhead with yellow lights along the bottom. Funny thing is the only thing triangular about it was what can best be described as its "outline." I made no mention of it and moved on. The star was in the west bright bright during this sighting. Relation? I think yes.

yes, thats right.

orbital space is thick with ufo traffic, its a wonder we have any room up there for the shuttle, satellites and space station...

why, one might think with all the flying saucers darting around up there, that the very sun would be blotted out!

or perhaps this was simply rush hour traffic?

all the beings from outer space rushing to get home from a long day of making crop circles, chopping up cows and probing human bottoms?

disclosure.... the only that might hopefully be disclosed someday is the ridiculousness of true believers who see spaceships in every fuzzy blob.

Isn't it odd NASA themselves can't say what these objects are, HOWEVER.

A "debunker" on this forum has no problem explaining they are ice crystals or camera reflections.

If it were that simple I'm sure NASA would of said so.

C'MON! That excuse is getting old and tiresome.

Originally posted by tim1989
Isn't it odd NASA themselves can't say what these objects are, HOWEVER.

A "debunker" on this forum has no problem explaining they are ice crystals or camera reflections.

If it were that simple I'm sure NASA would of said so.

C'MON! That excuse is getting old and tiresome.

I know what you mean.
Its as bad as statements like this.
100% proof of U.F.O.S in space - You cannot debunk this one *Look Quick*

I am so sick of ho many people claim this, and then we get the same old tired videos.

Originally posted by tim1989
Isn't it odd NASA themselves can't say what these objects are, HOWEVER.

A "debunker" on this forum has no problem explaining they are ice crystals or camera reflections.

If it were that simple I'm sure NASA would of said so.

C'MON! That excuse is getting old and tiresome.

This is what I am trying to say its easy for people to shoot a thread down quoting science and logic built around the confines of scientific conceptions but when the roles are reversed there is deadly silence from the other side.

For people saying that there is nothing to see here move along please (it will come) please answer my question.

[edit on 4-6-2009 by franspeakfree]

reply to post by atlasastro


These 'tired videos' help raise the level of understanding life outside the box from member to member and in particularly new members.

When they do finally land where will you be? Between now and 2012. Then after that life will be WAY DIFFERENT. I know this is a hard pill to swallow but the Biblical Anti-Christ comes in a UFO. Same reason for a world government. A landing. Guess who heads it?

You can mock and scourge me all you want. I know that what I'm saying will come to pass. You will know too.

[edit on 6/4/2009 by watchtheashes]

Originally posted by watchtheashes
Thank you for the link I will definitely check that out. I'm adding to this thread because it just shows that there is indeed something going on here. This false star supplements the fact that we are not alone. The fact that we are not alone. I'm talking about "extra-terrestrials" in a different sense.

Sure no problem, I believe we are on the same wavelength, however, not religously mind you. Any information regarding these subjects and in particluarly this topic is always appreciated.