Entanglement is seen in a mechanical system for the first time

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Scientists have "entangled" the motions of pairs of atoms for the first time. Entanglement is an effect in quantum mechanics, a relatively new branch of physics that is based more in probability than in classical laws. It describes how properties of two or more objects can be inextricably linked over "vast" distances.

Sounds interesting!
Maybe there is something to the whole what the bleep do we know thing



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Oops forgot the link. here it is
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Great post, but you should have tied it to the existence of aliens or that people are Indigo Children so then someone may have actually paid attention.

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Great post, but you should have tied it to the existence of aliens or that people are Indigo Children so then someone may have actually paid attention.

Oh well. just goes to show.....
anyway i just thought it was interesting.
Reminded me of the movie 'what the bleep do we know'

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Obviously we know quite a bit to be able to discover, theorize and then to observe this in action. ;-)

From what i can make out,
All matter was one before the big bang. there there is some sorf of connection between everything kinda like the force.
What happens to one object affects the other. By extension of this theory we are linked with everything in the universe at some level because we were at one point of time singular. Therefore we might be ble to produce some sort of effect on objects far away from us. This might even be the basis of telekinesis and esp.

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That is true. I mean stuff like this was all star trek not too long ago.
It is pretty cool though.

There are quite a few books on this:

Dean Radin's 'Entangled Minds' and 'The Conscious Universe' are quite good starting points.

Basically it comes to Quantum Physics which states that nothing is real until it is observed and everything can be anything depending on when it is observed. Read up on Schrodingers Cat theory. At least that's my basic understanding I'm no quantum physicist.

Very confusing and interesting at the same time how everything in the whole universe is connected and can communicate instaneously from light years apart. There have been various experiments proving some parts of the theory, Einstein called it 'spooky action at a distance'

Hope this helps.

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Good post, it probably should have gone in the science and technology forum, space exploration, or breaking news though. It would likely have gotten more attention in those. On your OP though, Einsteins 'speed limit' of the speed of light has been broken MANY times, why we still are stating that it is only theory to be able to travel faster than c is beyond me. Although some say that technically the particles aren't violating the casualty law due to many complicated things but I don't know if I agree with that. Also some postulate that the quantum world exists in some kind of "spacetime foam", and is separate from our 'space'. Basically I think it is like this: You can not go faster than light in real space (our 3d space) but you can by either bending space to you or traveling in the quantum realm.

From one of the experiments conducted on dual slits and electrons it was seen that electrons behave differently when they are being observed.
So just by looking at something we make it real. If this is true it shows that we are linked to the universe at very deep level and we can change it just by existing.
Youtube Link
This is a clip from a movie that tries to explain this stuff. More is on youtube.
Although i am not sure how credible the movie is it is still very interesting to watch.

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From one of the experiments conducted on dual slits and electrons it was seen that electrons behave differently when they are being observed.

That is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

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Yea! i knew i had read it before somewhere. A level physics!!
But there is so much 'pseudoscience' related to the subject like altering reality but if you think about it there might be something to all this afterall.
I men if we are all linked to the universe at some wierd level cn we not have some form of influence on it?

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Yea it is possible, I mean IMO everything is vibrating frequencies of strings and possibly membranes. So in a way everything is connected by frequency. Like I said before I agree with the theories that state the quantum realm is actually a 'spacetime foam' or 'subspace', most theories now already acknowledge the existence of a 'hyperspace' or 'Bulk' that exists in likely 11 dimensions. It is in this that our universe and others exist. Inside of our universe I believe is the foundations of spacetime itself, the foam or subspace. I think that if we can crack this issue then many advances will be possible, especially in space travel.

So when they finally get the chance to turn the LHC on at CERN, what will the result be of doing a little "big bang" thing. One has to winder if we get sucked into a black hole or if we simply begin a second bang to the big one. Sort of a bang within a bang thing. Hmm...

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So basically if an event is unobserved it hasn't relay happened?
Thats sort of like what kind of sound does a falling tree make if there is no one there to listen to it.
Does this also mean that if the mind is ''fooled'' into thinking that something is real it might just become real? thats way too matrix for me.(or maybe they knew what they were talking bout when they made the move).

Its actually quite amazing how little we know about the iniverse. There are so many things that science can not explain nd even if it tries to explain they just become stranger then fiction.

If this is indeed proof on entanglement it proves the existence of a whole new reality for us.

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I think it is impossible for us not to interfere with anything, whether we directly observe it or not we are still interacting with it.

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Thats true. i read somewhere that you can not conduct an experiment without becoming a part of it. Not sure who said it though.

It is quite amazing how deep that goes.
It might even explain a lot of seemingly supernatural events.

I don't really believe in ghosts but could it be possible that they are imprints on the fabric of reality or our 'quantum pairs' of some sort?

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I believe it was Neils Bohr who said that most notably during the EPR arguments of the 30's. As far as ghosts, sure they could be imprints, some physicists think they are or quantum anomalies. Personally I don't know but I tend to think they are our left over energy signatures that exist somewhere in between this dimension and another one.

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So now the real question is how do i get cool superpowers from all of this?

Also the whole entanglement thing reminds me of voodoo dolls. what you do to the doll happens to the person just as changes on one atom also happen to its pair.
freaky