This is the most scariest illuminati document i ever read...

Originally posted by benpadiah
We identify only two existing classes of people: citizen-initiates, and non-psychic money-slaves. Within the POD "bund" system there are 5 equal orders that operate as the "political parties" of the Atlantean government. However these political parties are distinguished by their idealogoical roles, and not by economic status.

In Atlantean society, we in the POD imagine there being able to remain an, albeit minority, amount of the population that remains un-psychic. These people would be treated as students by the other, psychic citizens, who would be considered "initiates" relative to the non-pyshics. The "initiate citizens" of the almost totally psychic global civilisation of restored Atlantean society would then be able to vote in the government, while the non-psychics would only be able to use the bank. The 5 "political parties" of the POD are the same as the 5 "bund" orders now: (from oldest to latest) 1) York Rite Masonry; 2) Scottish Rite Masonry; 3) Rosicrucians; 4) Illuminati / Golden Dawn; 5) the OTO.

Originally posted by benpadiah
the hind-brain

the hind-brain is the hippocampus, the hypothalamus and the medulla oblongata. This is considered "reptilian" since it is as far as reptilian brains managed to evolve. In point of fact, our human set of 7 chakras (nerve centres, so-called "plexi" and "gangliae") each represents one stage of evolution within our own branch of the genetic tree, all the way back to the first proto-plasmic bacteria.

Originally posted by benpadiah
The "reptilian shape-shifters" and the "neo-Sethians" are one and the same.... Thus, another name for "neo-Sethians" would be "second-comingist Christians."

Of course not all "second-coming Christians" are also reptilian shape-shifters. However, only second-coming Christians are reptilian shape-shifters.

Originally posted by benpadiah
metaphysical mutations.... the mutation that causes the physical dis-ability of dimensional-slipping, or "shape-shifting." Many of the upper-most elites in control of politics and economics suffer from this rare disability from having seen, or been exposed to contact with, time-travel technology. However others manifest this mutation naturally.... given a long enough time-span, each of us alive now will have evolved into a different form of "animal" faction.

As I say, the mutation of shape-shifting occurs either naturally, by the activation of superfluous "junk" DNA, or as a reaction to exposure to time-travel technology, eg. UFOs, etc. Most of the highest ranking politicians and economic-planners have been given some glimpse of this technology to bribe them into service to the status quo "black budget" R&D of the DOD. They have seen only enough to confuse them, though, enough to make them mutants, culpable in the cover-ups, and to keep them involved via a carrot-on-a-stick.

Ultimately, the activation of different genes will result in some of our current traits atrophying while other traits we share nascently with plants and animals, but which we do not yet use actively. The end results can include any number of hybrid traits if left to nature alone, but when combined with technologies, the more likely outcome will be that we all become cybernetic beings before we have all activated our full amount of possible "junk" DNA recombinations. This means integration with brain cells of quantum-computing atomic-machines via nano-molecular robots.

Originally posted by benpadiah
fascism disguised as socialism is what won Hitler the vice-Chancellorship.

It is. Think about it. First he appointed himself leader of the NASDAP party. Second he unified other right-wing political parties under them as the NAZIs. Third he put the Reichstag in check by staging deliberately timed walk-outs by his "majority" party. This is what allowed Hitler to black-mail President Hindenburg into appointing him the vice Chancellor. However, the official reason given then, for the sake of spin put on the propaganda, was to align Germany's "socialist workers" party to Italy's "fascist" black-shirts under El Duce.

Originally posted by benpadiah
the root of all evil behind 48 lies in front.

Meaning that money is the root of all evil, concealed behind the 48 Laws of Power. Money is a symbol that represents a quality it, itself, does not inherently posess: ie. value. Money, beit worthless paper, wampum-seeds, or even gold, is a symbol of something it is not, in itself, ie. the desire of someone else for the substance. This form of value yields a limited, negative electro-static charge through transactions, which in turn mildly stimulates the frontal lobes enough to keep its users addicted. There are other, greater, forms of energy that can be harnessed in similar manners.

Originally posted by benpadiah
Money is energy, currency is electricity, and transactions are circuit conductors in the AI mind of civilisation itself. This is the ECS: the combined socio-cybernetic "super-organism" and the "Gaia" principle of a living mind of planet earth itself.

The energy forces the ECS taps into and can make use of include all four elements, that is the electromagnetic field (or our planet's "Schumann resonance" soul), the strong (fusion) and weak (fission) nuclear forces (respectively interior to our core and exterior to our ionosphere in the van-allen belts), and the gravity-well of our planet, serving as the glass surface of our unique aquarium on the interior of which is projected the whole illusory "Matrix" of our present world. The ECS includes ancient (henges, pyramids, etc.) and modern (HAARP, DUMBs, etc.) sites, Holy (Temple Mount, Mecca, etc.) and profane (Disney, "TV-Land," etc.) sites, mechanical (satellites, internet, etc.) and biological (animals, plants, etc.) sites, etc. The ECS is designed such that any mind may use it to access any information it has the potential capacity for awareness of "as if out of thin-air." Hence, ESP. This is only the first and most fundamental attribute one awakens to when one comes to see the, otherwise invisible, ECS as true for themselves. The ECS is the height of Atlantean technology.

Originally posted by benpadiah
The oldest profession is not prostitution. It is banking. The oldest trick in the book is being a pimp. But the book of that "law" is a ledger. Slavery to money is prostitution of the soul.

Again, these are just simple statements of fact, rhettorically irrefutable as such, and not flights of fancy such as one might find in modern Hollywood films, or the writings of a science-fiction novelist. You cannot find truth "hidden within" a lie. This is, ultimately, a waste of time, and the philosophy only of the battered house-wife, desperate to maintain her dream-role, even if no longer for her own sake. There is no good "hidden within" evil. Evil is a cancer eating away inside an organism. That organism itself is Good. There is no ideal Taoist "Yin-Yang" balance either, because that moment in universal time has already occured before now, and so we are already in the stage of descent from such a highest form of ordered-state.

Originally posted by benpadiah
I consider L. Ron Hubbard a fraud

Consider this from the following point of view: compare, for example, my own writings to his. Whereas mine make copious references to existing concepts in esoteric and occult studies from times immemorial, L. Ron Hubbard's explanations for his own dream-vision are exclusive of any prior existent structure or hierarchy of beliefs. They are "new," in the same sense as was Venus once, sprung from the head of Jupiter, because they are exclusively the inventive creations of Hubbard's own mind. The concept of "thetans" would have more validity if explained relative to the Djinn, or genies, discorporeal fallen angels and all assorted various kinds of demons, which are ancient in mythological lore. It still wouldn't make the proposition "our souls are possessed by thousands of thetans" anymore true though by saying it as "our souls are possessed by a 'Legion' of demons." Is it still 1,000 though? What is the going rate for a single soul on the thetan exchange trade these days?

Originally posted by benpadiah
In a real utopia, there would not be any need for a military of any kind.... where peace is a pre-existing condition, no weapons would be necessary anywhere, and thus no war would be possible. Peace perpetuates itself indefinitely.

This sort of a utopia has been imagined rare to never among even the loftiest Hermeticists and the most rose-coloured glasses-wearing Rosicrucians. The utopia of human existence between the dawn of our human sentience and the flood that washed across Mespotamia 8000 years ago, destroying the last exoteric vestages of Atlantean governmental ideals, lasted even longer than it has been since then. This ideal paradise began with Adam and Eve and lasted until the life of Noah, called also Utnapishtim or Ziasudra. During this entire era, there was an ideal form of government on earth, which was later called "Atlantis" by Plato. At this time, the entire population of our species on planet earth was unaware of our own capacity to create weapons. According to some myths, this was taught to mankind by the Nefilim Tubal-Cain.

Well, that's all I can think of that might need clarifying. I'll wrap up for now. PEACE!
- Jon

To come back to project Camelot, I have seen more of their interviews now, and would like to add, "the Cheetah sleeps by night, but the cheetah, slain in its sleep by the lion, knows no dawn."

As for those who look up from below, and the sleepers:

What is it like to have no soul? To keep the truth secret and lie, saying things you don't believe. I have never been threatened with death, so I do not know your fear of blackmail. I have never received a "hand-shake induction" into the posturing for personality for which you shed your real skin, for fame. There are not "13 families" running the world, there are not really shape-shifters. You children are all being lied to, there is no Santa Claus, nor God, it's your parents, and they're also psychics. When will you all wake up to realise the conspiracy starts right outside your door? When will you realise that 99.999% of all your own thoughts, beliefs, ideas, dreams and yes, even your own most sacred and sincere emotions, all originate from sources beyond yourself? Do you even care about the existence of metaform-angels, 4-d shapes passing through us whose edges are our lines of thought and whose faces are our emotions? Would you perhaps prefer to discuss "Supriem" David Rockefeller, or the "Order" of Thule? These are masks and illusions in the moment, in the now. One is a fraud, paid for as a front to explore public reaction to very real Rockefeller interests in re-building the Hebrew Temple at Jerusalem. The other some methed out homosexuals who are pretending to be vampires, collecting blood through the mail and claiming to represent the "Third Prophet." These are real flesh and blood people I'm talking about here now, not your mystagogueic mythopeias on-screen. These aren't important people. These are people just like you. They are flesh and blood, the same as your "heroic" actors and athletes, they are just con-artists who are trying to get their names known so they can cross-over from being "inside" the "Matrix" of poverty, and get "outside" this "Matrix" (by getting rich quick), and thus to bring change to the "Matrix" as a whole. You're morons. They're actors, pretending to be archetypes. The archetypes they are pretending to be aren't really speaking through them, God doesn't speak to man via Priests. They are reading a script, called the Bible, that is more than 50% fiction, and should therefore be taken for what it is, a lie, and not used as a way to live. Listen to me carefully, all you who read this, in the silence of knowing you are no one special, in the shame of knowing you are a zero in a world of Ones, unless you break through this screen, by tuning your own mind's content into what you want, you will be nothing more than an eternally inanimate victim, subject to your environment, which is being controlled by other people, human beings, the same flesh and blood as you are, right now, while you yourself have been sitting here, reading this in silence, and doing nothing but thinking down about yourself. Do not sacrifice your own soul to the static-energy field of your tv, your personal computer, cell-phone, etc. Get the chip out of your own brain and go fly a kite.

As for those who look down from above, and the awakened:

I am, the "Matrix," I am, the "Illuminati," I am, "the all-seeing eye," I am, the Messiah of this generation, I am, the "Most High." I am one with that which is all that is. I am God. And I am You.

PEACE.
- Jon

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I have to say, I did find this thread a very interesting read with some very interesting articles linked.

The plight of humanity has always fascinated me considering we are all part of the same source of existence and any battle is a battle with ones self. The draping of human flesh has made us all so surreal and abstract from the origins of which we come.

At least, it is to serve the higher purpose of evolving the quality of ones self with the knowledge that we are all parts of a whole; each an aspect of the same self that originated all existence as it stands today.

We are in the matrix of our own design, a dream within a dream. The dreamer is awakening.

Hello and welcome benpadiah .

Would I be correct in saying that this train of thought is a bit of Manly P hall mixed with a touch of Ayn Rand ?

I would be interested to learn what Enochian keys you use ? Do you favor the table of John Dee or the revised changes brought forth by the Golden Dawn ?

Edit to add , I am not attempting to be demeaning with my analogy and hope it doesn't come across that way ,

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Max_TO]

I like the way this Jon guy (benpadiah), comes out of nowhere and plugs his book for sale on amazon within his first post.


Interesting read so far.

But honeslty, this sounds like a cult.






[edit on 22-1-2010 by FeralMonkeyMagic]

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And NO. I'm not buying any book. Troll somewhere else. Yes, this was worth my time. Dont be cheap, dont use a free forum, buy ads like adults do.

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You want to talk to a secret society member, you now have a secret society member. I think it's great he's come here to share his views with ATS members.

May the questioning ensue.

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He does provide a link to DL the book for free , yes free ...

ATS could do a lot worse then attract authors .

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He certainly didn't come to the site to promote his book, rather someone already linked it and he probably googled his book finding it discussed on the forum.

At any rate, since ATS is a social melting pot, there will be those who will jeer at the content, and those who will seriously investigate the work and consider the relevancy of the material to secret societies.

I think this is what makes for great internet so ...

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
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He certainly didn't come to the site to promote his book, rather someone already linked it and he probably googled his book finding it discussed on the forum.

I never made any such claim ??

I agree with your statement and I like you do not think he came here to promote his book either . As I mentioned he has posted a link where we can DL it for free , thanks for that BTW

I am appreciative that he has joined ATS and offered himself up to our questions , once again

Now please don't take my statements to mean that I will follow blindly or agree with everything that is said . However , I will listen with interest , ask the odd question and make the occasional statement .

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I know you didn't make such a claim, I was in agreement with you in your statement to Scooterstrats...

And Jon already has posted a reptilian thread :
shape-shifting reptilians and you

Which no doubt will receive the attention of some members who crave reptilian knowledge.


[edit on 22-1-2010 by YouAreDreaming]

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Yeah , I'm a "secret society" member too ! (its on the web).Look it up. What do you want to know chief?

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thanks .

Sorry I must be to tired and misread / interpreted your post , my bad

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Well, that is a good question. What do I want to know? What do you know about the dream / reality dyad?

Ask people who deal with that issue. I don't. Not my "bailiwick" .

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Fair enough, at least you offered up an opportunity to ask the question.

Any suggestions about one who would be qualified to answer such an affair?

yeah, sorry, I wanted to get that other thread topic off my chest briefly, before returning to this one. Yes, the complete POD is free on rapidshare (see my first post on page one of this thread, link to rapidshare at the bottom of the post). Other books by me are available on other sites for sale, but I am willing to send a free copy of any of them to anyone who requests one via email. Technically speaking I'm not a member of any "secret societies," and I created the Pythagorean Order of Death, so even though I am a "member," and it is a legitimate "society" with multiple members around the globe, it is not a "secret society" itself per se, although it does use their standard method to introduce some higher level concepts following a lower level series of initiation rituals in a degree system. I don't belong to Free Masons, although I do hope to join one day, and I have never done ritual magic, either in a group or by myself. I, as well as the other founding members of the POD, were originally all members of the fourm on www.illuminati-order.com, and that is how we met. The philosophy expressed on that site, though, did not inspire the design of the POD. The seventh degree of the IO.comBB (or IOBB, the "Illuminati-order.com Bulletin Board) was a "personal project," so several of us designed the POD as a better system of conveying esoteric knowledge than the IOBB. The "esoteric knowledge" held by the IOBB GM's turned out to be illegit, and that site is, although still online (without forum now), a total sham and a waste of time. On that note, it was a cult that idolised Ayn Rand, and it did have one or two members who had read Manly Hall, but as I say, the POD has nothing to do with the curriculum administered by the IOBB. In short, they were a sham (as in not an authentic or lefitimate operating IO body) and the POD is a new invention.

Now, as far as the POD itself goes, here is a brief link that can help anyone new to this thread to catch up on its topic:

www.benpadiah.com...

The first page is the POD "manifesto" and the second page (linked at the bottom there) is about the history of the "order of death" prior to now, while it was being run predominately by reptilian shape-shifters. We in the POD have attempted to work in tandem as much as possible with our reptilian brothers. However, until now, all attempts with said reptilians made to reconcile the differences in our dichotomous philosophies have failed. Therefore, the POD is an attempt to circumvent the go-betweens we have been talking to, and to bring the message of a better system of global government directly to the people. I am not saying "Atlantean Democracy" is what is in store for you after the reptilian Apocalypse. I'm saying it is already available regardless of it.

People have fought and died against the imposition of a global government on the grounds it threatens individual, state, and national sovereignty, or because of the imposition of a global-dictatorhip implies the abuse of human rights and liberties. People are afraid of getting an implant chip when already their nervous-systems are remote-piloted via radio-stations. Meanwhile, human rights violations, plagues, deforestation and extinctions, wars and "cowboy diplomacy" continue on now with little time given to question the excuse of "it is what is" for the way things are.

On the other hand, what I and my associates in the POD are proposing is an alternative method of operating a potentially global form of government. It's called "Atlantean Democracy" and we believe it has existed in some form since before the end of the last ice age, and originated in Antarctica. The system is considered "Pythagorean" in nature because of its unque use of number-theory as a basis for the structures of government. For example, we would have 13 members on a jury rather than twelve, and all votes would be totalled likewise in odd numbers, in order to prevent tie-votes, etc.

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I have herd of "Atlantean Democracy" as well as the council before and as you know there are many different beliefs as to how it operated . Along those lines , what would the essence of any future Atlantean Constitution be in your opinion ?

I was wondering if you are familiar with Donald Tyson ? And if so what do you think of his work with Enocian Magic ?