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Originally posted by WhatTheory
[...] Why would a woman who does not want a child allow herself to get pregnant only to abort the baby. [...] The majority of abortions are done because the woman could not keep her legs closed or was to drunk or drugged to know any better. [...]
Originally posted by Sonya610
Takes TWO to make a baby. What about the guy that couldn't help sticking it inbetween those legs KNOWING that the woman probably did not want to have a baby???
What about him? Oh wait, men have nothing to do with this whole pregnancy thing. I forgot.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
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Originally posted by Monger
The hypocrisy of the so-called 'pro-life' movement astounds and disgusts me to my core.
Again, another knee-jerk reactionist who spews talking points instead of thinking for themselves.
What is actual hypocrisy is the so-called 'pro-choice' movement who does not have a problem killing an unborn innocent defensless baby yet will scream and whine like a little girl protesting the death penalty or innocent civilian deaths in war. Now that is astounding and disgusting!
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Another knee-jerk reactionist.
You would know.
I am not judging anyone's morals. This is your twisted logic attempting to justify the murder of innocent little defensless babies.
You seem to have confused a fetus with a baby.
All I am saying is that IMO, killing innocent babies is wrong.
I agree. Killing babies is wrong. However, a developing fetus is not a baby. Also, stop adding "innocent" in front of things. It's annoying, and usually wrongly attributed.
Why would a woman who does not want a child allow herself to get pregnant only to abort the baby.
Don't act like you know or understand the circumstances of every abortion ever. You don't.
Don't start spewing your talking points about the health of the baby or mother because those are a tiny portion of abortions.
Wrong. Reality disagrees.
The majority of abortions are done because the woman could not keep her legs closed or was to drunk or drugged to know any better.
I didn't know you knew that was the circumstance for the "majority" of abortions. Care to prove this claim? I'm willing to bet your "omniscient" claim is wrong. Even if your situation is the case, the woman has every right to her own womb. Nothing has the "right" to live inside another.
A womans inability to make a sound decision is no reason to murder a innocent little defenseless baby.
I agree. Again, fetuses are not babies, and stop adding on "innocent". It's still annoying and redundant.
As to your other lame point, I am not a religious person. While I was raised as a Catholic, I unfortunately don't currently practice the religion and reluctantly only go to church on a rare occassion when forced by my wife. So again you have no idea what you are talking about.
Thank you for being the perfect example how atheists/non-religious/agnostic are not all the same stripe, and have different views on things, and that we're not all the same. Especially views that are fundamentally inaccurate.
Originally posted by seagull
If it turns out that this doctor was killed by a "prolife" advocate, it raises the level of hypocrisy to new heights.
My question is this: What does this solve? Death to prevent death? All this'll do is harden opinions even more, resulting in more deaths.
But it may turn out that this murder isn't even related to his profession.
But no matter who, it is and will remain a murder. Unjustifiable by any measure.
Originally posted by Aldolas
First of all, could you please link your statistics, we are on ATS you know
Secondly, have you got a daughter?
Imagine she got a spiked drink (i.e. drunk and drugged) and then abused, i.e. raped.
Pro-choice or pro control?
Originally posted by WhatTheoryOf course the man should be responsible but if the woman does not want to have a baby then all she has to do is say no and keep her legs shut. The woman is the one who gets pregnant so the buck stop with her. If she is not willing to have a baby, them keep them legs shut. Unless you are talking about rape, you really don't have a point.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by Aldolas
First of all, could you please link your statistics, we are on ATS you know
Give me a break. Unless you believe the majority of abortions are done because of rape then you don't have a point. It's like saying provide a link that the sky is blue.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
All I am saying is that IMO, killing innocent babies is wrong.
Originally posted by Monger
It seems that Dr. Tiller has long been the target of a number of websites and smear campaigns, which seem to have been organized by a group calling itself 'Operation Resue'.
There are a number of blogs and other assorted sites devoted solely to this one abortion doctor. It seems that he was seen within the 'pro-life' community as a particularly nefarious individual.
Operation Rescue was, interestingly enough, the first 'pro-life' group to put out a media statement condemning this cowardly deed.
This leaves little doubt in my mind that some crazed zealot no doubt on a mission from the almighty himself murdered this man in cold blood.
Interestingly enough, they all seem to have been removed rather hastily no doubt in an effort to save face. Google cache wins again.
[edit on 31-5-2009 by Monger]
This leaves little doubt in my mind that some crazed zealot no doubt on a mission from the almighty himself murdered this man in cold blood
Originally posted by seagull
There is, as yet, absolutely no evidence of that. Let's let the police investigate. Making unfounded accusations only inflame the situation further.