Six discoveries that science can't explain

i enjoyed the post with or without the humor, it brought these mysteries to my attention. i especially liked #5 The Antikythera Mechanism. this brings to mind a book called Forbidden Archeology: The Full Unabridged Edition by Michael Cremo. The book deals with findings like this that can possibly link technology such as #5 to past civilizations that have previously existed that had such technology. Who knows we could have been going through life cycles many times and the remains of such cities or technology become lost to us after some devastating occurance.

awesome thread star and flag ftw

i have deciphered the 3rd image of the Voynich examples,
but, it is too explicit to post.

I can say someone made Hugh Hefner look like Lloyd Christmas in the animal magnetismatic sense

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Originally posted by TheCoffinman

nice avatar.. we are similar

indeed, I like Egyptian mythology - went to Cairo about a year ago and it has been my avatar since (except recently when it seemed to be missing)

One theory of the Voynich Manuscript is that it was a forgery done by John Dee and/or his 'sidekick' Edward Kelley. They then spread the rumour that it was written by Roger Bacon, and sold the manuscript to Rudolph II, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Bohemia.

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...and sold the manuscript to Rudolph II, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Bohemia

Who just happened to be a voracious collector of such items, and the perfect sap for scamming. Supposedly he bought some heads of saints that were also forgeries.

Great site, thanks for putting me on to it. Informative and funny is a combination that works for me!

The swearing doesn't bother me. Apparently most of the site's staff are Irish and (like us Scots) they're fond of the ol' cursing (to be sure).

Methinks MR BOB needs to evolve a funny bone. Here's a Simpsons quote that sums him up for me...

"The rod up that man's butt must have a rod up it's butt!" - Superintendent Chalmers

Brilliant thread.
Great article, those who believe this is not well written need to open their horizons to different styles and different cultures.
Great use of language IMHO, though I am not offended by swear words.

I personally think the pyramids out due everything on that page.Everyones comes up with all these stone age ideas of how they did it with man power but for some reason we cant do it with "crane" power today.Not with the precision anyway ,cranes can actaually make the lifts now but those have only been around 50 yrs at the most if I had to say more like 10 but Im not exactly sure.The Antikythera Mechanism is right there with them but just not as collosial an as known.

The Voynich Manuscript - I had never heard of that one. Interesting read so far.If it's a hoax it rivals some of the best hoaxes of all. I'm quite intrigued by this and will do some more research on it.

Originally posted by TheLoony
The Voynich Manuscript - I had never heard of that one. Interesting read so far.If it's a hoax it rivals some of the best hoaxes of all. I'm quite intrigued by this and will do some more research on it.

exactly, this is why I posted the link. The article doesn't go into too much detail but does give a whiff of curiosity that has made me look further into the discoveries. The Voynich Manuscript does seem very intriguing I agree.

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This is one hell of a interesting read. Got me thinking some weird ideas.

Ok, assuming it is not a hoax and just gibberish, we have these "facts":

1. It follows the known laws of language, yet is unreadable. It has similarities to many languages yet is not them. No one in 350 years has been able to decode it.

2. The pictures are of no known plants, except for a couple of examples and a couple of maybes. They resemble out plants but are just not quite right, pieces intermingled and such.

Ok, now here's where I wonder if I have read too much sci-fi. What if the book is from a alternate dimension? We just can't figure it out properly because it's not supposed to be here, or we don't have the proper magic universal decoder ring? We just don't have the right frame of reference to understand it? Realities that have diverged and we need Douglas Adams Babel fish to make sense of what we see and hear.

Does that make sense? Hope so.

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OMG - thank you for the link.... I cannot resist the temptation to go all over the site: cracked.com brilliant and a welcome relief to some of the more depressing stuff you seem to read everywhere!

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From the Voynich manuscript:




Crop circles, anyone? That was the first thing I thought of when I saw it.

Originally posted by TheLoony
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This is one hell of a interesting read. Got me thinking some weird ideas.

Ok, assuming it is not a hoax and just gibberish, we have these "facts":

1. It follows the known laws of language, yet is unreadable. It has similarities to many languages yet is not them. No one in 350 years has been able to decode it.

2. The pictures are of no known plants, except for a couple of examples and a couple of maybes. They resemble out plants but are just not quite right, pieces intermingled and such.

Ok, now here's where I wonder if I have read too much sci-fi. What if the book is from a alternate dimension? We just can't figure it out properly because it's not supposed to be here, or we don't have the proper magic universal decoder ring? We just don't have the right frame of reference to understand it? Realities that have diverged and we need Douglas Adams Babel fish to make sense of what we see and hear.

Does that make sense? Hope so.

I would lean more towards ET origin - if anything.
But who knows! I think the Antikythera mechanism is more profound. I have never heard of this thing, and when I first saw it, I thought it was only a hundred years old (minus the decomposition, of course. I mean it looks like it would be something that was MADE 100 years ago).
That thing looks friggin AWESOME for something that is 2100 years old! I am shocked to see something that intricate to be that old.
Unbelievable.
Don't get me wrong, though. The book is interesting as well! I just haven't the slightest clue what the deal is with it.

S&F, OP.

And I found Cracked.com (or whatever it is) to be funny as well...

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If it comes from a alternate dimension, the entity that brought it here would be a dimension traveler, whom could possibly be ET. Who is to say ET has to come from this dimension?

Hell, I don't know, I'm just throwing things out there and seeing if they stick to the wall.

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Eyahh you got me on that one

Here's a website with the scanned pages if anyone wants to try to decipher it. I was only about to crack about 25 pages so far... Sike...

beinecke.library.yale.edu...

Damn. Now I'm really curious about this one. People ever tried to run the characters through a computer program to decipher? Well, they would need the actual cipher first, I guess. But can't that be found using some kind of computer program as well? I don't know. I mean - I guess they would of done it already.
Damn, what is this book about??!

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"In an area of China not known to ever contain people, let alone industry, there are three mysterious triangular openings on top of a mountain containing hundreds of ancient rusty iron pipes of unknown origin. Some of the pipes go deep into the mountain. Some of them go into a nearby salt water lake. There are more pipes in the lake, and more still running east-west along the lake shore. Some of the larger pipes are 40 cm in diameter, are of uniform size and are placed in what seems like purposeful patterns."

And God said "I shall lay my pipes deep into the earth, and set my THRONE upon the top of the mountain." LMAO!!!!!

And here is a link to the alphabet to the book.
Alongside of it's letters are letters in English, but they must be guesses, or else it would be solved, right?

You guys tell me:

www.voynich.nu...

The Antikythera mechanism, was already shown to be an ancient computer.
The strange pipes in china come from a little known race of folks, that were only 4 foot tall and had greenish-blue skin. Lived in the cave area of the mountian and were fabled to have originaly come down from a flying disk which crashed. The chinese gov't classified this area and no one goes there. The area is deemed sacred. So off limits.
The other things your guess is as good as mine.

The ancient pipe system in China I hadn't known about and that is an absolutely fascinating oopart to ponder--one of an apparently staggering scale.

Clearly there were advanced ancient civilizations on earth--this by now must be obvious, if only ou can drag yourself away from the tube and do even the slightest bit of research and thinking---even reading a simple website article such as this.

There are also huge stone terraces recently found off the coast of Japan in shallow water--things on a vast scale unlike any other ancient civilization known. A city that looks like a Cecil B. Demille backdrop for ancient Rome or Egypt--staggeringly massive in scale.

And of course the pyramids and sphinx, staring us in the face with their "mystery." They are not IMO from Pharonic Egypt, that has been made clear by persistent guerilla-style "non-official" research.

But officially we cannot acknowledge what is by now fact--supported with abundant evidence such as this. We shunt it aside, pay "experts" to explain it all away, and call the evidence "ancient mysteries." Honestly, what nonsense. All to preserve the half-baked idea that our civilization arose from Mesopotamians living in mud huts 5000 years ago--but oops! --then came Sumer.

Okay, it was then rationalized that the mud huts were in fact a bit older, and the obvious advanced state of the Sumerian civilization was again downplayed. All to ensure this tidy progression of man rising from the ape to walk erect. That famous image of straightforward progress is false, but we cling to it with a tenacity that shows ignorance on the one hand, and outright deception on the other.

Summa sumarum, archeology and historical anthropology are a crock.