No Stars seen from Space?

Here is another image with a visible star - and the sun in the shot again




Commentary:

Duke: Wow, is that Sun bright! Ooh!

(www.hq.nasa.gov...)

reply to post by Exuberant1


Those spots of light are from lens flare.

The other picture you posted shows two such instances; one "just below the fiducial immediately right of center", as you so eloquently put it, but the other is just above the rock on the left (not so eloquently put )

Oooh nice video. Too grainy but yeah, it does the job.

As for the door, its obviously the door of the universe we all been looking for.

reply to post by PrisonerOfSociety


The first image I posted was from a NASA server - this is what they said about it on their own site:

"Traverse photo taken between Station 2 and the LM. Orion is just below the fiducial immediately right of center."

Both images have lens flare in them, but I am referring to the stars which are also present.




Nice Try!

[edit on 29-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by zorgon
I have heard all the arguments why no stars appear in certain NASA photos, yet I was never satisfied with the answer...

Here is your answer by an astronaut himself during a Columbia shuttle mission. Yes the
astronauts see stars as well as satellites, space junk etc. all the time EVEN at daytime
but NASA doesn't want the world to see these images anymore like in the old missions,
they don't want the world to see what is really happening up there and this is A FACT.

Check the Columbia astronaut making the historical statement from space clarifying the
old myth created by NASA.

Original link.

media.abovetopsecret.com...

Eventually NASA broadcast black and white images specially at night time during the
recent missions and you can see stars and satellites very clear and also a variety of
lights and objects moving in different directions but these transmissions are becoming
more rare. It's clear NASA doesn't want to get in trouble trying to explain so much
things shown in space like in the old times so they simply darken the space view all the
time by fixing their cameras and closing the lens to a short range.

[edit on 29-5-2009 by free_spirit]

reply to post by free_spirit


Good Stuff Free Spirit!

Straight from the horses mouth...

LMAO It's pretty obvious that you don't see stars in space for the same reason you don't see stars in the daytime. Obviously, you're not going to see stars on the side of the moon that faces the sun.

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[edit on 5/29/09 by RedDragon]

Interestingly I would like to add this. If you watch the video I just posted of the
astronaut reporting seeing stars check the audio when he is talkiing, you will
hear two kind of short interruptions during his talk, like the volume being turned
down intentionally.

I don't know you but to me I suspect NASA did try to cut the audio because of what
the astronaut was reporting wich contrradicts what NASA has been saying all the time
and even some astronauts clearely instructed to say the same. In my opinion NASA
was not comfortable with this astronaut and his statement but again, is my opinion.

Did NASA tried to cut the astronaut statements?

Originally posted by RedDragon
LMAO a lot of retards in this thread. It's pretty obvious that you don't see stars in space for the same reason you don't see stars in the daytime. Obviously, you're not going to see stars on the side of the moon that faces the sun.

Jesus, common sense people.

Seriously, this is the kind of stuff that makes people laugh hysterically at conspiracy theorists. I'm a CT about some stuff but at least think a little bit before you start spouting off nutty new conspiracy theories that only take like 2 seconds of rational thought to debunk.

[edit on 5/29/09 by RedDragon]

Well my friend you are wrong. Hear the astronaut in space contradicting you and try to
learn something from history. Here.

media.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by free_spirit

Originally posted by zorgon
I have heard all the arguments why no stars appear in certain NASA photos, yet I was never satisfied with the answer...

Here is your answer by an astronaut himself during a Columbia shuttle mission. Yes the
astronauts see stars as well as satellites, space junk etc. all the time EVEN at daytime

Space shuttles orbit over the entire planet. If they're covered by the Earth in front of the sun, obviously they'll see stars because it's 'night time' for them even if its daytime at the launch station. If they're in front of the Earth, they won't see them.. or on top, bottom, etc as long as theyre not behind it. (relative to the sun)

[edit on 5/29/09 by RedDragon]

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reply to post by free_spirit


See ^ ^ ^... You'll be able to see stars from portions of the moon that aren't visible on Earth. So, the only time that you shouldn't be able to see any stars on the non-dark side of the moon is when there's a full moon.

Originally posted by RedDragon
LMAO It's pretty obvious that you don't see stars in space for the same reason you don't see stars in the daytime. Obviously, you're not going to see stars on the side of the moon that faces the sun.

[edit on 5/29/09 by RedDragon]

[edit on 5/29/09 by RedDragon]

Thank you RedDragon for removing your statements about we all being retards, that was
rude and unnecessary. Now we agree.

reply to post by free_spirit


Sorry, I realized I was being a jackass. It just pisses me off a bit when people on ATS act so ignorant because this is really why no one takes conspiracy theorists seriously. There's 3 pages of probably 20 different people creating crazy conspiracy theories over something so simple. A normal person would come to ATS, read this, laugh, and exit the site.

reply to post by zorgon


Speechless about the footage! Orion is one of me fav Constellations, dont know why. Simply have 3 fav of them.

Where did you find this?

Where did NASA say that there are no stars visible in the space??

reply to post by Exuberant1


Check out AS16-109-17853 and AS16-109-17856 aand AS16-109-17857
There are stars on the surface of the moon on those pics!!

Edit: There are actually a few more of photos like these..

[edit on 29/5/2009 by DGFenrir]

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by PrisonerOfSociety

 

The first image I posted was from a NASA server - this is what they said about it on their own site:

"Traverse photo taken between Station 2 and the LM. Orion is just below the fiducial immediately right of center."

Both images have lens flare in them, but I am referring to the stars which are also present.

Nice Try!

[edit on 29-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

It's not a star. There is no star named Orion, of course.

Orion was the name of the Apollo 16 Lunar Module. That is what the picture description is referring to, not the speck of light.

The speck you think is a star is above the fiducial immediately right of center, not below it. If you look below that fiducial you'll notice the LM in the distance on the surface.

reply to post by zorgon


Pleeeease Zorgon! You understand cameras and photography better than that. Why are you posting like you don't?

For others, look at how bright the moon is when the camera settings are such that you can see the stars. Look at the huge flare.

When the camera settings are such that you could see the moon's details, or the astronauts working and the details, you would naturally not be able to see the stars. Photography .001, day one It does not matter if it is a cheap or expensive camera.

I don't have time to read the whole thread and if someone else already explained please forgive.

Camera Exposure Guidelines
Understanding Exposure

Keep looking though

ok first point "that was the arrtifact from the 2001 movies 'i seen it with my own eyes"! flyin by but ignoring that as instructed ! I am very confused where the hell are the stars ,it wasnt Daytime the whole time they were on the moon!! this subject just makes me mad..Im a human being god damn it and i am mad as hell I want the truth! please see this Mad as hell lol

Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety
Surely, one of the most beautiful pictures they could of ever taken would be the Earth (from the moon) with the right aperture setting and ISO showing the Earth floating in a sea of stars.

Is there such a picture?

Such a picture would show either the Earth in detail and no stars, or stars but the Earth just a big over-exposed mass of light. Exactly the same as when one takes a picture of the Moon from Earth

The only real way to get such a picture as you suggest would be to take 2 shots, and superimpose one on the other. But that'd be cheating

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Pleeeease Zorgon! You understand cameras and photography better than that.

Why are you posting like you don't?

What I understand is that at least one or two of the brightest stars would be visible at the very least especially since the stars would be much brighter with no atmosphere (as many claim is the case on the Moon )

What I understand is that the people on ISS are not bad at catching stars despite a bright object in the image... like let's say an Aurora?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4040f5d9015e.jpg[/atsimg]

In this one they are over SNOW (Winter in Canada), which is bright and reflective, more so than the Moon. The round circle is the Manicouagan Impact Crater, Quebec, Canada

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9566b0618332.jpg[/atsimg]
Credit LPI/NASA

Now here is another one...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2397b8815b27.jpg[/atsimg]

Both images have a bright object and still several of the brightest stars are easily visible.

So why is this different on the Moon? You can come up with all sorts of camera excuses, but the fact is that from Earth orbit even with a snow covered Earth below reflecting sunlight...

YOU STILL SEE STARS

So at the VERY LEAST we should see stars in the images taken from the command module as it orbits the Moon






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