Hezbollah could strike Israel to divert Hariri probe

Originally posted by masonwatcher
It is always Israel and another country or faction. The clue is staring you in the face. The entirely consistent element in every Middle Eastern issue is Israel. It is not complicated at all, mayhem erupts every time Israel is about to invade or attack. Hariri was killed a few months before the attempted Israeli invasion of the Lebanon of 2006.

Israel sure is a source of never ending mayhem.

I sometimes think the whole purpose of reestablishing Israel is just to create instability in the oil markets and keep the entire region unstable.

President Roosevelt was dead set against a Zionist State in the Middle East after stopping on his way back from Malta to thank the Saudi Monarch for all his help in keeping gasoline and oil flowing to the Allies in the war and the Monarch told him what dire consequences creating a Jewish state in the region would have.

I sure think he hit that nail on the head.

I see this getting worst in the upcoming days. Israel is planning to have a military "drill" called Turning Point 3. It will exercise a war between Israeli forces & civilians against - Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran..

Here's my post w/ source - ATSpost

Originally posted by JWash
I see this getting worst in the upcoming days. Israel is planning to have a military "drill" called Turning Point 3. It will exercise a war between Israeli forces & civilians against - Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran..

Here's my post w/ source - ATSpost

Hey thanks for that info, I will check it out.

Israel sure is a problem child!

Originally posted by mrmonsoon

Originally posted by masonwatcher
It is always Israel and another country or faction. The clue is staring you in the face. The entirely consistent element in every Middle Eastern issue is Israel. It is not complicated at all, mayhem erupts every time Israel is about to invade or attack. Hariri was killed a few months before the attempted Israeli invasion of the Lebanon of 2006.

In a sick way, you are correct.

Musliums and muslium terrorists are constantly starting wars, how uncommonly awear of you.

Puting two2 funtioning brain cells into operation we see, Hariri was killed and who benifited from this?

Killing the man who wanted to remove Syrian influence and troops from Lebanon.

The man who was going to remove the terrorists (Hezbolla) from lebonons government and maybe even the entire country.

So, hmmmm, who needed to kill him and who benifited from his death

Again, the truth "IS" staring me and the whole world in the face, Muslium terrorists....again.

I find your mind and lack of "spell checking" to be a source of laughter for me.

Originally posted by AdmiralX

Originally posted by mrmonsoon

Originally posted by masonwatcher
It is always Israel and another country or faction. The clue is staring you in the face. The entirely consistent element in every Middle Eastern issue is Israel. It is not complicated at all, mayhem erupts every time Israel is about to invade or attack. Hariri was killed a few months before the attempted Israeli invasion of the Lebanon of 2006.

In a sick way, you are correct.

Musliums and muslium terrorists are constantly starting wars, how uncommonly awear of you.

Puting two2 funtioning brain cells into operation we see, Hariri was killed and who benifited from this?

Killing the man who wanted to remove Syrian influence and troops from Lebanon.

The man who was going to remove the terrorists (Hezbolla) from lebonons government and maybe even the entire country.

So, hmmmm, who needed to kill him and who benifited from his death

Again, the truth "IS" staring me and the whole world in the face, Muslium terrorists....again.

I find your mind and lack of "spell checking" to be a source of laughter for me.

Clearly since you can not challenge the facts, you move to a personal attack, how "UN" ATS of you.

reply to post by mrmonsoon

Hezbolla formed in Jordan. They did the usual muslium terrorist things, bomb and target civilians, murder, destruction and so on. Jordan would not stand for this, good for them.

You seem to be confusing Black September with Hezbollah. While it is possible that a small number of ex-Black September members MIGHT have gone onto Lebanon, there has never been any legitimate source, Arab or otherwise, that connected Black September, a group originated in Jordan, and Hezbollah, which was founded in Lebanon.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by mrmonsoon

 

Hezbolla formed in Jordan. They did the usual muslium terrorist things, bomb and target civilians, murder, destruction and so on. Jordan would not stand for this, good for them.

You seem to be confusing Black September with Hezbollah. While it is possible that a small number of ex-Black September members MIGHT have gone onto Lebanon, there has never been any legitimate source, Arab or otherwise, that connected Black September, a group originated in Jordan, and Hezbollah, which was founded in Lebanon.

Thank you Professor, I searched and searched to try to find a reference to substaniate mrmonsoon's assertion and I could not find any link to Black September and Hizbulah either.

I figured you would know this better than anyone.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Thank you Professor, I searched and searched to try to find a reference to substaniate mrmonsoon's assertion and I could not find any link to Black September and Hizbulah either.

You're welcome. I didn't want you burning up band width trying to find proof that didn't exist.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Scholars differ as to when Hezbollah came to be a distinct entity. Various sources list the official formation of the group as early as 1982

that wasnt hard to find. the point however is moot. Israel will soon have no choice but to take out the Iranian nuke facilities instead of the US doing it as we should. Israel can only hope that President Obama will stick by Israel and come to their aid when the entire middle east decends on them.

reply to post by Phedreus

Israel will soon have no choice but to take out the Iranian nuke facilities instead of the US doing it as we should. Israel can only hope that President Obama will stick by Israel and come to their aid when the entire middle east decends on them.

Pray tell, WHY do you believe that the US should "take out" the alleged Iranian nuclear facilities, and WHY should the US "stick by Israel"? Is that the same Israel that attacked the US Liberty, and then sent a second wave of jet fighters to kill off the survivors of the first attack? Is it the same Israel that has more spies in the US than any other nation? Is it the same Israel, along with AIPAC that buy and bride Congress to do their bidding? Since when did Israel become one of the 50 states of the US?

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Thank you Professor, I searched and searched to try to find a reference to substaniate mrmonsoon's assertion and I could not find any link to Black September and Hizbulah either.

You're welcome. I didn't want you burning up band width trying to find proof that didn't exist.

You know Professor I have been burning up a bit bandwith trying to research that claim!

I am not just on ATS to help others learn but learn myself, but...call me crazy it's facts I want to learn, not just fairy tales to substantiate a prejudicial agenda.

Any day I can learn something is a good day, and it sure is great to have friends like you that help me do that.

Thanks again!

Originally posted by Phedreus
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Scholars differ as to when Hezbollah came to be a distinct entity. Various sources list the official formation of the group as early as 1982

that wasnt hard to find. the point however is moot. Israel will soon have no choice but to take out the Iranian nuke facilities instead of the US doing it as we should. Israel can only hope that President Obama will stick by Israel and come to their aid when the entire middle east decends on them.

I have to be honest my friend, if I had just one Nuclear Missile of my own I would have to flip a coin as to whether to nuke Texas or Israel...

I can't really decide which place has the most obnoxious egos!

It would probably be better to check for wind directions though as opposed to flipping a coin, no use getting that fallout on the lovely beaches and palm trees here in Miami.

There is no State in the Union called Israel my friend, and this country was founded on Seperation of Church and State and I sure don't want it in the union, their lobbyists clogging up the halls of my Congress, or my tax dollars going to subsidize them, or the weapons my tax dollars buy being given to them.

No one wants to give me a Nuclear Missile, why the heck are we handing them out for free to people who aren't even Americans or even care about America.

I like to comfort myself and believe that all of our leaders from 1950 on know "You keep your friends close, but your enemies closer"

Israel, not Iran is the number one threat to America.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler


This is an interesting article. Evidently there is new speculation in Lebanon regarding whether Hezbollah may have been behind the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

The article by Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff of Haaretz Correspondents all but rules out any attack on Iran until Washington tries to talk to Tehran but believes there is a high possibility a War on Israel’s northern border with Lebanon will erupt by Hezbollah attacking Israel to keep an investigation moving forward inside of Lebanon over their own possible involvement in the former Lebanese Prime Ministers death.

Could it be possible Lebanon might also be headed for a new civil war?


www.haaretz.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

wouldn't a more powerful group be behind Rafik Hariri's assassination due to the fact that we still haven't found the perpetrators? Secretive organization like the CIA or the Zionist secret organization, what is it called, I can't seem to put my finger to.. oh yeah Mossad.

Do you really think Hezbollah has the the capability to assassinate such a high profile individual and no traces exist which would point the fingers at them. It just shows how one sided individuals can get these days.

Originally posted by Ownification

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler


This is an interesting article. Evidently there is new speculation in Lebanon regarding whether Hezbollah may have been behind the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

The article by Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff of Haaretz Correspondents all but rules out any attack on Iran until Washington tries to talk to Tehran but believes there is a high possibility a War on Israel’s northern border with Lebanon will erupt by Hezbollah attacking Israel to keep an investigation moving forward inside of Lebanon over their own possible involvement in the former Lebanese Prime Ministers death.

Could it be possible Lebanon might also be headed for a new civil war?


www.haaretz.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

wouldn't a more powerful group be behind Rafik Hariri's assassination due to the fact that we still haven't found the perpetrators? Secretive organization like the CIA or the Zionist secret organization, what is it called, I can't seem to put my finger to.. oh yeah Mossad.

Do you really think Hezbollah has the the capability to assassinate such a high profile individual and no traces exist which would point the fingers at them. It just shows how one sided individuals can get these days.

I believe it was the Mossad my friend who carried out the assassination of Hariri to pull Syrian forces out of Lebanon before it's summer invasion two years ago.

I believe they (Israel) are now trying to get that gift of murder to keep on giving, by assigning some speculative blame on Hizbullah in hopes that it might weaken the Lebanese Army's loose aliance with them.

I believe that Israel is using Barack Obama as cover to engage the Iranians in a false diplomacy to utilize that time to mount another attack on Hizbullah in Lebanon as a preemptive tactical and strategic measure to ensure that if and when they do attack Iran that they won't have to immediately fight a two front war by engaging Iran over long distances and a very well drilled and tactically adept Hizbullah on another front that could effectively harass and possibly invade Israel with substantial ground troops effectively splitting it's force and diminishing it's forces capabilities in both theatres of operations.

I think they were thinking even longer term when they pinned the assassination on the Syrians who likely won't feel compelled to come to Lebanon's or Iran's assistance early in the game though might late in the game if they sense an opportunity to retake the Golan Heights.

In the past several days we have seen attempts by Israel to split Lebanon with these lies.

We have seen attempts to tie North Koreas Nuclear Tests to Iran.

We have seen attempts to tie the United States nearest most belligerent foe the Venzuallans to sending Uranium to the Iranians.

In other words Israel is trying to plant every seed to make an attack on Iran something attractive to America in every way they think they can.

This morning two of my least favorite Israeli disinfo agents here on ATS started a thread that actually implied that they would have never had to attack Gaza in Operation Cast Lead, knowing as they do now in Israel how many people here in America and abroad were opposed to that criminal act, as being forced upon them by Hizbullah and their Iranian sponsors instigating Gazan Palistinians and using Gazan Palistinians to attack Israel with pathetic little home made rockets as if the Palistinians were just as happy as can be with their circumstances until Iranian proxy agents came to town.

This is Israel's strategy.

Ultimately the Talmud says it's alright to kill as long as you don't kill a fellow Jew and as long as you don't do it yourself but get a non Jew to kill your enemy for you.

They would love nothing better than to manipulate us here in America to fighting yet another war for them.

I would in fact like us to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and fight a war in Israel instead and force them back on to the 48% of Palistine they are supposed to be on and to pay the Palistinians reperations for all the damage they have caused and then cut them off from American aide, and kick every dual citizen of Israel and the United States out of the American Government and out of America.

I know that's not politically correct, but my friend I actually am an American and I don't like people or nations who want to take away my inalienable right to free speech or force me to subscribe to some white washed and false version of history because it suits a group or Nation's agenda that is not America.

I would like to see America restored to it's Constitutional form of Representative Democracy in a Republic that Church and State are seperated.

I believe Israel is the number one threat to it, and the number one enemy of America.

I believe if Israel can willfully engage a mighty propoganda machine and blackmail and coersion to make people want to blindly attack other peaceful nations that simply have a different culture than ours, then I have every right to call foul, and say hey let's attack the war mongerers who put so much thought, energy and our money into trying to decieve and manipulate us into morally and economically bankrupting acts of violence against people who have never done us any harm or intend to.

I believe it was Israel and corrupt ellements in the U.S. Government and Business that staged 9-11, and frankly I would love to see them all hang or burn.

That's where I am at.

I would settle though for them just getting out of American Politics and pocketbooks, and fighting their own wars, with their own lives, money and weapons.