Beware of Facebook!!!

I also use facebook quite a lot but I have never completed any of he quizzes that are there. Just for the hell of it though, I might add the application and become a tool of the American Government, but.... I will lie so that their profiling machine blows up, thus saving the world from the NWO threat.

Some people are just overly paranoid

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by lyyhtsource

 

Rupert Murdoch does own Fox News and MySpace but he has never used his media outlets to promote a certain candidate, unlike MSNBC and their campaign for Obama.

In which cave do you live? Murdock's Fox News overtly supports the "REPUBLICAN candidate," regardless of who it is. While Murdock's other outlets might not support the republican candidate(s), Fox News is the head cheerleader...

I personally have had Twitter, Facebook and Myspace. Of the 3 I would be more concerned with Myspace. I found it quite convenient how my truth seeker and animal rights friends were constantly getting their accounts deleted for one reason or another after they sent out certain bulletins about the US government/military. Some of them even had up to 3 back up pages just in case.
Facebook (from what I have seen) is just a bunch of old friends and relatives catching up and sending apps to each other. If you start an application and it starts to feel intrusive don't finish it! If it's already starting to make you feel weird why on earth would you finish it? Why give more personal info then you have to? I have tried to cancel my account and they don't give you that option. Even though I deleted all my info I can still sign back in at anytime to reactivate my account. lol nice huh? What a time saver!
Your Twitter account can be restored also...
My personal opinion is that if you sign up for sites such as these then your sending out an open invite for anyone to invade your personal space/info whether or not your page is "private".

[edit on 19-5-2009 by AwakenAware]

I just linked this current thread onto mine.

The White House on Facebook : Care To Share Directly With Obama?

So, considering people are concerned about Facebook, does this mean the information is sent to Obama?

hehehe..I just posted a link to this thread on my Facebook.
Lets see what happens.....lol
Other than my friends raising a few eyebrows...

For the record, I don't complete any of those tests/questionnaires. Neither does my wife. My wife stumbled upon it on someone else's profile and was fascinated with the questions. We were even more fascinated that people actually answered them not even considering what the info could be used for. Anyone with any type of wisdom at all should realize that some of these questions were completely out of line and slapped in the midst of seemingly harmless questions. Most people are just naive and foolish and the PTB know it so they don't have to work to get information from us. People willingly give it up. All you have to do is slap a smile or some money on it. Just like their "old and broken" gold when there obviously is no such thing.

For those of you who ignorantly say that I'm paranoid, I suggest you read up on psychological profiling and why this technique is used repeatedly by various agencies at the federal, state and local governments. I know it when I see it and that is exactly what is taking place on FB. I was warning unsuspecting people of what is happening so they won't be deceived into thinking it is innocent and regret it later on when it returns with fangs. When it all breaks loose, we'll see who was paranoid. And it's coming.

I also didn't comment on MySpace because I don't use MS. I use FB for business so that is all I am inclined to speak on.

Lol!!

You guys obviously has never watched Eagle Eye (2008) film.

-They build 'personality profiles' of all people around the world through social networking sites, and any online information stored about you.

-They could spy on you anywhere through street/building surveillance cameras, and worse - your cellphones! They can look at you via it's built in camera... They can overhear your conversation, through the mic on your cellphone even if it's turned off!! The only way to stop it is to take the battery out!!

reply to post by ahnggk


Well, I can't speak on anyone else on this thread, but I have seen "Eagle Eye", and it does not surprise me in the least the things that go in this type of environment.

Eagle Eye : What Would You Do?

Information databases did not only begin in the creating of Facebook, they started back in Nazi Germany through the Census, while at the same time, America was utilizing the Census.

I talk about that here :

Saw This Comic Strip Again Today, And Thought I'd Share

I have as well talked about it in various other threads throughout ATS.

I keep exposing what the Nazi's did that was never brought up in the history books.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Originally posted by LostNemesis
Common sense would tell us to not put anything incriminating anywhere, but... Humans are inherently stupid.

I was at a court case with someone I know just a couple weeks ago.

The prosecutor had the entire contents of his Facebook AND Myspace printed out, to use against him.

It's no Conspiracy Theory....

Five Gold Stars! [color=gold] * * * * *

It isn't a conspiracy theory. It's proven fact. Too bad there are so-called enlightened ones that scream sarcastic ONOZ. Take it from someone that has been in the industry all his life; I grew up in Silicon Valley and I can't flip a burger at McD's to save my life. (Finally, I got to work in fast food, once, I had to repair the network links under the counter at Wendy's... OMG you don't want to know what's under that shiny stainless steel counter! We're talking auto-hurl.)

Believe it. Understand this... Everything that you do online using real contact information is available to whom ever needs it at anytime. I would only suggest deleting any real name accounts on social networking sites and make an alias. Tell your friends your new alias. Contact Facebook and verify that your old account is permanently purged (oh, they don't do that and want to know why you are leaving? LOL)

Don't believe me? Your offline activities are tracked AND they can guess who your relatives are by cross referencing information.

[color=gold]Look Yourself Up...

MelissaData is a marketing tool. You can guess the uses. They make some old school hacking obsolete, in my opinion.

Do you have any idea what Google is (for example) ?? Google CEO was at Bilderburgs 2009... That should be a huge red flag. Just because you think you are no one special to the powers that be doesn't mean that you may not be in the future; or in a trend analysis (harmless, but take the point.)

Google had proposed (at least in 2004 or so) building a huge computer NOC on the Columbia River in Oregon near The Dalles. Why? Water can help cool the massive data center. Not only that, the nearby dam generates virtually uninterruptable and nearly free electricity for a server farm.

WTF? You ask? What would they need a gazillion square feet for their server farm? Not just to serve up your silly queries for Ebonic Definitions and where to find coupons... Oh, no, no... They cull mind bogglingly huge ... like googleplex's of information (superlatives are becoming scarce.) I don't know if they ever finalized the deal and don't care...

I also heard (about 10 months ago) that Google wants to build offshore platforms for housing those massive server farms. If they build within international territory wouldn't they no longer be subject to US laws? First thing I can think is the Patriot Act. Second, might be selling culled various levels of personal information to the highest bidder.

FaceBook is a mere shadow of Google's culling information, BUT, it's very specialized... and guess what, fool? You give it up freely, every little data bit about what you think and who you are and what you believe because you are led to drop your common sense and general defenses that you would normally have up, say, in a restaurant. What if someone came up to you friendly and all asking your name, where you live, what is your sexual preference/deviation?

Gawd, you better believe "they" are scoping you out. Nothing to fear... Just stop divulging your kids ages and address and the times they come and go to just anyone... Etc... Now, use your imagination.

Hmmm...

What happens if you delete your account? Does your personal info remain somehow?? So far, I've deleted relevant info on my accounts.

I may delete them eventually except for one I use for communication with an overseas contact. No love lost, I have very very few friends in there and I'm not big into getting attention and somewhat, fame..

who in their right mind tells the truth on those whakky applications anyways? I surely don't.

Originally posted by itappearsthatway
Also interesting is that you can never cancel your account. YOu can only delete all your friends take down your photos etc but your name will still be there and your account can be reactivated anytime.

I did think this was a bit suspect, I opened a Facebook account and rarely used it so deleted everything and de-activated my account (or so I though), but kept getting emails saying so and so had done this and requested that.
Thought it was odd, and surprise surprise, I was able to log into my account 6 months after I thought I had deleted it.

It pissed me off, because, if I want my info/profile deleted off their server, then that is my right.....

Also, when I did log back in, my account settings were all still there, with my profile pic and everything, I'm sure I had deleted all pics...!!

[edit on 20-5-2009 by celticniall]

I agree with the OP. I think this information is being collected for nefarious purposes in the future. There was another post about they had seen the posted information used in a court of law.

It all boils down to privacy and being intelligent with how you are received in the world. My mother called this managing your reputation.

Privacy is not a right it is a privilege for those who can purchase it or create it.
When you are born you are naked...you do not have a right to clothing but you family must provide them at their own expense. When you build a home...you have no right to tell people not to look in your windows...you must cover them at your own expense. If you do not want people driving on your property you must purchase a fence or gate...there are no rights to these things. It is the same with our public persona. We must manage it and release only the information we want the world to know.

I am not on myspace or facebook and never will be willingly...but I forsee a day when schools or some other institution decide to use them for communication purposes and we all will be "required" to be on".. . but I am paranoid.

celtic...

if you use two mail accounts in facebook, log in and remove info on profile in both of them. Then delete and do not log back in, once you log back in it reactivates account. May take years for it to totally disappear.

Don't be tempted to log in ever again with your acct. mail and password and it should disappear.

I always choose the most creative and strange answers. So if the government and their big spy network Facebook want to profile me using quizzes, they will come up with something so un-actionable and stupid that they would give up since it would be pointless.

Also why worry about emails? I have eleven different emails. Yes that is right. Why the hell would I put my main on there? So I can receive emails when Joseph Stalin gives me a bumper sticker with Jesus on it? Also the NSA usually handles the tech work in the intel community. They have more resources then the CIA do.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by nastalgik]

[edit on 20-5-2009 by nastalgik]

It is possible that you're right, however I am keeping a neutral outlook on this.

I do find some of facebook's actions bizarre. One time I added someone because they had the exact same name as me, middle aswell, so obviously, being young, I was interested in talking to the girl. She accepted my add, but before discovering this I got banned. They told me it was because my friends had reported me for adding people I don't know, however the ban was far too rapid for anyone to find out who I'd added and decide there was a big problem with it. Why would they lie? :S

And also, they do keep your information after you delete your account because once I deleted my account and when I went to get it back two months later, as soon as I signed on, all of my details were still there, even all of my pictures, posts and everything else.


I still don't have that much suspicion towards it though..

How do you know that ATS doesn't create psychological profiles of you and pass it to the govt?



Nah but to be honest, I hate facebook, myspace, bebo whatever you want to call them. I hate them all.

I started off on Facebook but never got into it. I failed to see the point of having 500 people (only 50 of whom I was actually REAL friends with) knowing what I was up to every hour of the day.

Twitter is another one. Losers.

Can these people not go and read or study or something.

This "youtube generation" is just part of the mass, hypnotised by entertainment, sheeple.

I was doing some facebook quizzes when I stumbled upon this one:

"Which secret society should you belong to?"-
If history is to tell us anything it tells us that most of history was written between the lines. Throughout the centuries there have been scores of secret societies pulling the strings behind the curtain influencing politics, religion and public opinion. The Freemasons, Skull and Bones, the Illuminati, The Knights Templar, Opus Dei and others are but a few. The members share oaths, rituals, sacred bonds and, of course, more than a few secrets. Wouldn't you like to find out which one is right for you. You might want to keep it a secret. Or share it with your friends!

LOL

I think demonizing facebook/myspace/twitter is exagerating the issue of "privacy" (if you really believe there is any)

Like some posters said, they can gather the same information with other communities/forums (and actually any online activity you have)
Besides, they already posses all the important details from medical records, credit cards, etc.


[edit on 20/5/09 by plutoxgirl]

ROFL... OP

Your in HERE

and your worried about what you might reveal in face book?


What I know is... some of the stuff I write in this place is 90% not always understood by a police type person... maybe some do, maybe most do actually... they are all human beings...

But lol... one crazy line of bs in here, and here certainly is watched i'd be quite certain particularly after the Anthrax dude thing... one line read by the wrong dummy that takes you from patriot, or wing nut or nerd to... terrorist in the eyes of one dumb ass

I'd be far more concerned about that then pulling my name based on quiz information from 40 million some odd world wide users on facebook

people come in here and talk about ammo stock piles and revolutions and thrash the president daily and...

lol whats your quiz's in face book telling anyone? by comparison?

They wont be looking over your face book if you don't give them outside reason to, your a cog... if you don't break there is no need to replace you.

I do agree if you periodically have court crap over kids and stuff... you might want to be smarter than me and not post big Bud leafs all over your profile

But I don't much worry about that either

nor what I write in here

I have maintained all along whichever side wins, i'll be wanted and useful to the victor, I have skills and don't actually ask for much out of life but to get my head on be a dad and work for myself and one thing that will never change in America is the right to buy your freedom from slavery, which is my chosen path... no threat here, not unless I go alex jones or something and get all public about what I feel

But...

seriously

In order of priority in terms of staying safe in crummy times in the USA

1: Money... enough of it to be left alone

2: Be a useful engine

3: you might want to control your net activities in places like this long before facebook... IF you have reason to be concerned


Because trust me... they have something on everyone they can use thanks to the net

How hard is it to take a guy down...

you don't need a trial or a court or thugs

You need to get a guys IP address and send his wife pictures of his secret porn stash, or bust him for a simple vice or cheating on taxes...

they don't need facebook to make you ineffective, you can be fired from work with a phone call

lol then your impotent in a realistic manner, your a bum

If someone wants you gone...

and your on the radar at all... your taking your chances my friend, it wont be a gestapo unit it will be an early flash on a street camera a few times that leaves you unable to pay a parking ticket and gets you in the system

something like that.... if you really amount to a problem in any ones eyes...

Facebook?

Everything you do, every trip out of your house in any city is recorded by street, by satellite by internet by debit card

If the right person wants to know you.... they will just LOOK and know everything about you from your hrs kept and slept to who your friends are to your hobbies, what you eat, your health


BRO YOUR ON THE INTERNET

you have no privacy, neither do I

I mean seriously.... your ON THE NET, what do you think your behind 7 Proxies?

Well, Now Facebook has increased it's efforts to weed out accounts with fake names.

This just goes to show how the morons that end up running these places have preverted the internet into some glorified neighborhood where everyone is your friend. In a perfect world with rainbows and unicorns and Obama ... yeah, speak your mind, everyone wants to hear your opinion and to take a line from Demolition Man "Be Well, John Spartan" ; man, that's one huge delusion!

The same as it's delusional to think everyone is evil and hell bent on destroying another and exposing every deepest, darkest secret we maintain.

My earlier post is an agreement and a confirmation to the general and somewhat ill-informed public about the potential dangers of Social Networking.

Just as people need to wake up about 'Conspiracies' (I like the term Agenda instead of conspiracy) people need to understand that having access to online resources requires more then just knowing what to click on.

There isn't really much technical information that the general public should need to learn to use online resources. The main thing that all people should learn immediately before using online resources is caution. Take time to read Privacy Policies before you click accept.

Here's an except from Facebook...

(Shortened from original)
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights you specifically give us the following permission (subject to your privacy settings):

photos and videos : you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any content that you post on or in connection with Facebook.

This ends when you delete your content or your account
(except to the extent has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it).

To use? how? Why anyway they see fit, of course.

I have a Facebook page and I use an alias. If they think I need to be accountable for my actions online... LOL Only my bank (and a few online retailers) know my personal info... and that's as it should be.

Accountability? Accountability for what? I would dearly love to hear their reasoning behind why a personal social network requires accountability... If you want that in a professional online community, go to LinkedIn.

I'm sure that you'll see corporate CEO's and jobseekers networking with other lampshade-wearing beer-chugging drunks with riotously funny pictures... NOT.

When Human Resources departments at companies all across America have a policy to check MySpace and Facebook and now Twitter for any accounts that you may have listed under your REAL name; and then use that in addition to any real qualifications to place you in a job... This is a sad day.

Facebook is a personal social website. Who the hell cares what nickname you use... What if I'm from the middle east and my given name is Habib Admin? The name Admin is soooooo forbidden in almost every facet of online accounts...

Except, of course, to the administrator. (and one ISP that had no foresight and allowed me to acquire that login name on their service, very long ago.)

But that's what happens when the ignorant transplants from another industry takes over something that they don't understand; like internet. All they see is dollar signs and they ignore good practices. That means aliases have always been used and should be in the future. Use aliases on everything! Except where it may constitute fraud. It's just a wise thing to do.

It's a wise and sound practice to keep all of your personal information off of the net. Make it as hard as possible for the 'bad guys' to obtain your information.

Who knows or cares why 'they' are interested in someone... the fact is if something catches their eye, they can start finding out everything about someone that carelessly posts personal information all over the net.

No computer system is secure. Facebook certainly isn't immune from being hacked. Why make it easy on them?

Yeah, I saw that picture that says ... "LOL, I'm behind 7 proxies!"
Why is it even funny? If you are really behind 7 proxies... there's a good chance at least one of them doesn't keep logs and that breaks the chain back to your desktop computer in the volcano lair.

While I'm ranting about keeping personal information private... How about Obama making all of his private documents public. What has he got to hide? Where's his thesis? Where's his accomplishments as Head of Law School or whatever it was. Where's his real birth certificate? Not the computer generated one...

I'd love to be able to read some of his work (not his bio-books) from university... Apparently he needs lawyers to keep it all under wraps because, of course, he has a lot to hide? Or nothing?