New telescopes discover moving objects, puzzling ESA

a little background info:

Herschel and Planck talk to Earth

14 May 2009

ESA's infrared observatory Herschel and Planck, the Agency's mission to study the Cosmic Microwave Background, lifted off together on an Ariane 5 at 15:12 CEST from ESA's Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana.

At 15:49 CEST today, just under 40 minutes after liftoff, Herschel and Planck sent their first radio signals to Earth, confirming that they separated successfully from the launcher and are alive.

the first images that came in were quite interesting...

ESA is as puzzled as we are regarding the identity of objects 5
and 6

www.minorplanets.org...

animated gif:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3883b70f2557.gif[/atsimg]

latest update:

It is worse, we now have more than a dozen objects, including between
Herschel and Planck, at least 2 between Sylda and the booster, one in
front of Sylda, etc. and we suspect even more, we have several hundreds
images to process, and of course, one of the computers failed yesterday.

source

some more about Herschel & Planck:

ESA
ESA highres pics of Planck
ESA highres pics of Planck



Sorry if this has been posted before.
What do you guys think it could be?






[edit on 18/5/2009 by errorist]

Very interesting, im sure there is a logical answer, would love to see some more information on this first though.
Nice find.

Those are obviously very shiny space balloons! Duh.

Seriously, though... this is interesting. I'd like to see what this turns out to be.

reply to post by errorist




Interesting indeed...


Though at least one of the objects may have a logical explanation...

One could be the SYLDA structure that connected both payloads.

Your Original Source...



But that only accounts for one of the objects...

The three objects are in L2 (Lagrangian point 2). They're the Ariane 5 rocket stage and the Herschel and Planck telescopes. Launched last week.
Link

German article

Excellent find!

I have to admit these look strikingly similar to what we were seeing out at Gilliland's ranch (NOT the satellites we saw mind you)...

While there is most likely a mundane explanation, space junk, parts of the telescopes life vehicle, etc... It's apparent they haven't figured it out yet.

Very nice presentation and great thread. Thank You errorist
!


Springer...

Whatever those objects are, they were not discovered by the new space telescopes, they were seen and photographed from Earth.

You do know, that if it would be the case that the crafts would be for instance Extraterrestrial, then that would BE the logical answer, right?

Translation

With a telescope to make images of the sky, which is generally known. That in such a picture two other telescopes appear, well, then fair enough. But when the two graduated in telescopes already 100,000 km on the way to its destination orbit around the L2 point 1.5 million kilometers "behind" the Earth has been, it's already something special. Just get those shots to the team at ESA's OGS telescope (Optical Ground Station) at the Teide volcano on Tenerife, and the telescopes are of course depicted yesterday launched space probes Herschel and Planck. One sees on the first series of recordings that were made yesterday evening (14.5.2009) for about 19 minutes created a tripartite group of objects, which is the Herschel infrared telescope, the telescope to measure the cosmic background radiation and the Planck Payload Adapter SYLDA, which will start with a colon is used. At some distance (in the chosen field of view, however, not seen), the observer also burned ESC-A upper stage of Ariane-5-missile exercise. The apparent magnitude of the upper and Herschel was around +13.5, which Planck is about +14. Tonight, the objects due to the larger distance again lichtschwächer appear. Good luck on your long journey, Herschel and Planck! (The mentioned OGS telescope team includes employees of the company's Space Research Aboa O / Y, Ataman SLU Science and Astronomical Institute of the University of Bern. I would like to thank Tim Flohr Aboa of Space Research for his remarks)

Ariane 5, Herschel and Planck observed from ESA Optical Ground Station in Tenerife

Originally posted by Kandinsky
Translation
Ariane 5, Herschel and Planck observed from ESA Optical Ground Station in Tenerife

ok my bad, misunderstood that part. Thanks for clearing it up!

It's swamp gas on Venus reflected of Uranus!! "everyone knows that!" Problem solved!

I wonder at what point that they are going to regulate space junk around our planet. It's going to be too dangerous to have any people, and there is going to be a cluttered mess wrecking equipment.

reply to post by fleabit


I have to agree with you, it starts here polluted and garbage everywhere then we go to space and what do you know, polluted with junk everywhere , we as humans are stupid when it comes to making messes lol cant even keep our own planet clean let alone space

I have video taped two such like bright balls of light travelling through the night sky on my camera phone one night after the other. They both disappeared at the position in the sky of Virgo. That's the nearest I can fathom not being an astronomer. Last Monday I also witness a green streak that lasted for about five seconds coming straight from the sign of Virgo as well. I also saw this green streak six weeks ago in the same position. Is this a dimensional or time portal that is used for aliens or even time travellers to gain entry to earth from the sky? What does everyone think?

If in fact there are these objects floating around our planet, be it space junk, rocks, parts of the space vehicle that dropped the satellite off etc.. Couldn't we see these with normal telescopes on Earth? That is to say, why can't I buy a normal telescope, find the coordinates to a satellite and see it perfectly from my back yard?

Pardon my dumb questions, I'm quite ignorant on the subject.

reply to post by Rockpuck


The objects in the animated GIF were photographed from Earth, from Tenerife, Canarias, so the answer to your question is yes, we can obviously see them.

I got rather hopeful that we had more evidence of "other worldly objects" then, and my hopes we dashed.

Damn.

Very very nice find!
Congrats! Thank god we have ATS to keep up with the pace of things.
I completely missed out on that one and i will digg deeply into this to see what our new tools are. Hopefully information comming from Herschel and Planck will not be upheld from the public as was the ususal practice so far.

Wello donne errorist!

You rightly deserve the star and flag on this one.

Originally posted by Springer
Excellent find!

I have to admit these look strikingly similar to what we were seeing out at Gilliland's ranch (NOT the satellites we saw mind you)...

Before i go reading in detail the information herein could i have a source to some more info on:
what we were seeing out at Gilliland's ranch ???

It will be appreciated!
Thank you beforehand


[edit on 18/5/2009 by GEORGETHEGREEK]

reply to post by errorist


It is a Skyhook balloon caught in rare drift pattern, I'll dare you post this in such ignorance!


LOL, good find, I don't know what they are, I will have to do some more research.