Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice

Police: Man said 30,000 bullets were for target practice

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HAVERHILL — Keni Garcia told police he intended to use the 30,000 bullets they found in his car and home for target practice.

That is hard to believe, the prosecutor at Garcia's arraignment said, because if he were to fire a gun for eight hours a day, it would take weeks for him to use all of it.

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Apparently this fellow got caught up in BATFE sting operation.
While 30,000 rounds is alot of ammunition, if you shoot regularly especially if you compete its not really that much.

I wasnt aware that the BATFE was able to track how much ammunition someone buys.

Apparently this fellow was moving from one state with low restrictions into a state with strict restrictions.

Being held on 500,000 bail and had to surrender his passport.

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Well that's kind of brutal.

Then again that's ALOT of ammo to be lugging around, especially if your moving from state to state.

Good defense though. If they can't prove he was going to use it for anything else but target practice, there's really nothing they can do.

~Keeper

And also, this happened in one of the most un-Second Amendment friendly states in the U.S., Massachusetts.

Exactly what law is it that says there is a certain amount of ammo that you can own legally? I personally own several thousand rounds and there are a lot of people that own much more that I do. I personally think they are just looking for or making up ways to take our guns and ammo.

Great find......firearms and firearms training is part of my business...we travel across state lines with cases and cases of various ammunition...I have never heard of anything like this happening before....we all know the BATF are Nazis anyway, but this, IF TRUE, p[uts us all a little closer to midnight on the doomsday clock...I'll see if I can corroborate this story...

That is B.S. There is no law saying how much you can have. If there is find it and show me. I think 30,000 is perfect, for taget practice, if you do it a lot why not stock up on it. Its a pain to go to the store and buy a few cases everytime you go and shoot. then you have to plan if the store doesnt have ammo, cause we all know thats happening now. Screw them hes not at fault, the ones who did the sting are, they wasted man hours and money on somthing this stupid. Holy crap..thats all I have to say.

Growing up, we always had well in excess of 30,000 rounds (of course that was combined calibres).

I have ot take exception with the person in the report who said it'd take him "weeks" to go through that if he were shooting 8 hours per day. That's pure crap. I can remember many times my bride and I went through a coupla hundred rounds in a little better than an hour.

Way back when, I was nationally ranked in the ATA, and shot trap in state shoots and of course, the nationals at that time were in Vandalia, Ohio. We'd shoot in excess of 500 rounds of SHOTGUN shells in a day of a State shoot. I don't think my shoulder could take it now, even with recoil reducers.

I suspect the guy just didn't want to say, "I have all these rounds so I can hope to protect myself from.............. people like you!!!!"...... I mean, I guess that wouldn't go over very well. Used to be, if a person had a bazillion rounds of rimfires, they'd claim "varmints".

Yeah, I come from the old west. Well, I don't think it should be an issue how many rounds a person has, if they posess their firearms legally and have no grey marks that preclude them from owning them.

The connection between 2nd amm and hunting is non-existing.

You know...

Being Canadian, I have NEVER seen that much ammunition my life, and you wouln't here either.

Actually no, that's a lie, once at a Military Weapons Cache in Greenwood NS, now that was alot of ammo.

But in a residence, never ever.

So highly illegal here it's ridiculous. You know the great thing about the US is you guys CAN be armed to help you remove your government, in Canada we do have alot of weapons, but it's mostly all hunting rifle and bows.

Rock on 2nd Amendment.

~Keeper

reply to post by DarkStormCrow

Yet another example of our government trying to destroy the second amendment There is no law on record that I have been able to find that stated a limit on the amount of ammo one can own. Anyone that owns an SKS or similar rifle can tell you that its pretty easy to use a couple of thousand rounds a day when target shooting.

In addition, most of the ammo was .22, 9mm and .38.....30K rounds might sound like alot, but if he had 10K rounds for each weapon, I'd say he was almost perfectly outfitted....BTW he is NOT a US citizen (Dom Rep) and they claim probable cause based on the possibility that he might export to the Dom Rep....no matter, it's still contrived BS like this that puts the watchers on edge...

When I was shooting competition pistol I would burn through 1500 rounds a week just for practice and in the days running up to the actual shooting I would easily go through 4000 rounds in a week. Thats just what I was shooting with pistols, that doesnt include what I would shoot as far as rifle ammunition goes. So to me 30,000 rounds isnt really all that much.

Its none of the State of Taxachustetts business what people have or what people do with their possessions up to and until a crime is committed. No crime has been committed here under any Federal law. There is absolutely NO law in Mass. or federally about the amounts of ammunition a citizen is allowed to possess. This is plainly just another attack on the lawful possession of one of the components needed to enjoy the rights of firearms usage. The law is clear and just because the elected officials of Kennedyville don't like it doesn't make it legal for the police to harass and deny the rights under the Constitution of this individual. If he is legally allowed to own firearms, the amount of ammo he has in his possession and then arresting or even questioning him about it is a violation of his Constitutional rights. This is another attack being used to try to set an illegal precedent to confiscatory, unconstitutional, laws!!

Zindo

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Well that does make a difference friend.

Not being a US citizen means he's subject to harsher laws and more scrutiny, that is probable cause it's not bull#.

I agree that any American citizen with such ammounts of ammo should be left alone, however, somebody from another country on a guest VISA, would have alot of explaining to do.

I can't disagree with the police on stopping and questioning him, I apologize, he's a foreigner and you never know.

~Keeper

This fellow had a green card and was scheduled to become a citizen the day after he was arrested. It was legal for him to purchase firearms and ammunition.

Wow....Only 30k rounds?


I have 20k in just .22's alone. Total ammo stash is sitting aroung 60k rounds.

Originally posted by DarkStormCrow


Apparently this fellow got caught up in BATFE sting operation.
While 30,000 rounds is alot of ammunition, if you shoot regularly especially if you compete its not really that much.

I wasnt aware that the BATFE was able to track how much ammunition someone buys.

Apparently this fellow was moving from one state with low restrictions into a state with strict restrictions.

Being held on 500,000 bail and had to surrender his passport.

www.eagletribune.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

The government and media like to go on about stuff like this. It stirs up the fear of the anti-gun people. Thirty-thousand bullets...he had to be up to no good...that kind of thinking you know. Talk about fear mongers...

reply to post by tothetenthpower
" He's a foreigner and you never know" Last time I checked the laws of the U.S. are applicable to anyone in the U.S. regardless of your origin. Your statement was quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have ever read in all the years I have been a member of this site.

Well at least we know that they are keeping tabs on large amounts of ammo and the likes. So buy in small amounts. Its another case of Nazi America at work. Things are heating up and the time for these actions is near an end.