The Bible: A message of the New World Order?

I was thinking of this after reading this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Could Christianity actually be a New World Order supporter?

Think: God is ruler of all mankind, king of kings, etc.

Lucifer is the enemy, yet means Light Bringer, or to have Wisdom.

Could God represent the Government that may rule the world, while Lucifer, represents the people against the NWO, and wish to seek the truth, instead of dogma?

Christians follow rules like avoiding the Seven Deadly Sins, like Lust, Greed, Gluttony, but some of them seem to me in my opinion a bit dare I say, positive? (Please don't hate me, but correct me on these meanings)

Gluttony: How is obesity a sin? If god did not want to have people overeat, why is there eating-disorders, or obesity overall? Practically, being ill is considered a sin now.

Lust: Some Christians say Homosexuality is a sin, but why is this there? Homosexuals cannot help being this way, either way, god wanted to love everybody, yet I think the Government wants to get rid of them through my idea.

Despair: Really, we all feel a bit down sometimes, and that's just emotions. How is being a bit sad a complete sin? You really can't fake your happiness right? That is what the NWO may trigger in my opinion.

Pride: How is wanting to be a bit better a one way ticket to hell? This is where the Non-followers, if I may, come in. The people who oppose this New World Order, will be seen and looked down upon as Lucifer once was, and may be killed by the Government.

Sloth: Relaxation? A Sin? I think that's a bit harsh. We all need to relax once in a while... or this means that the NWO would lead to no relaxation for workers, so then we have to become slaves.

I am not saying that Christianity will be the reason for the NWO, but There are signs in Christianity that there will be a NWO. In a sense, the people who are followers to God, will be fooled to believe in a one world government, instead of their true happiness.

I am not against Christianity if anyone is wondering, nor I am a satanist, so I'm on neither's side. So Please comment on this idea, I need others help as well.

reply to post by Shoomoo


Ouch...

Well, that's a VERY good question, however I think you may have opened up yourself a can of worms in this instance.

Now using your train of logic, it probably could be said that rulers of the ancient world, or the ancestors of our current masters, probably needed a very detailed and well thought out way to control people.

Since money wasn't really a big factor in that society, unlike our huge economy today, one of the ways to have done so would probably have been through religion.

Since it was the biggest vehicle for power at the time, I can definetly see your point. However in today's society although religion plays a big part, it doesn't nearly hold the ammount of influence it once did.

So, IMO, if religion was a product of a mass control scheme, the NWO probably don't put as much thought or resources into it today as they do in manipulating the world economy and it's leaders.

Great notion however, S&F.

~Keeper

Interesting you bring this up.

Gluttony, I believe is a sin nowadays where in if you are eating well more than what your body can sustain while their are people out in the world who barely get a crumb of bread for their breakfast.

Everything else I think you pretty much hit though, and doesn't really need any sort of clarification to be honest. Overall I think the seven deadly sins are just guidelines for helping people gain self control. For if we probably acted upon Lust, seeing a beautiful woman or man walking down the street and wish to do something; we'd be probably be in for some trouble later on. Same goes for Sloth and despair.

Not undermining your post really, but just saying that those are more or less just guidelines to life or try to be; but seem to take it a bit to extreme in a way. Overall I think they are just guidelines like the bible itself to a life. Where they don't want people to be overtly doing the things of which they counted as "sins" so rather than throwing in a few more 100 pages in the bible, why not make them sins I suppose?

Before I end this post, isn't there a conspiracy about Christianity being a new world order I can't remember, and I've been away from the "knowledge base" for some time.

[edit on 17-5-2009 by Gigantea Rosa]

reply to post by Shoomoo


Just so you know um... when you said

"Christians follow rules like avoiding the Seven Deadly Sins, like Lust, Greed, Gluttony, but some of them seem to me in my opinion a bit dare I say, positive? (Please don't hate me, but correct me on these meanings)"

Yeah um no the "Seven Deadly Sins" is not and never was in the holy Bible it was taken from "the 8 temptations of man" reworked into the "Seven Deadly Sins" I will not get into the many many things (we) Christians and Non-believers should know but i had to point this out. Btw Christians are against the NWO.

reply to post by GunzCoty


Thank You For Correcting me on that, and also, Everyone seems to be already against it, but I am only showing a resemblance.

I am sure Christians are Against it, I mean people overall.

I'm sorry if I offended you though, if I did.

I think people that accept our current structured system and don't want it to change have already accepted the mark of the beast. I think the bible is the truth flipped around on humanity. The ones who will be leaving this planet are not the good people...remember we inherit the earth. The bible though is the Illuminati's or NWO's last sick joke on us so that when they all get shipped off this planet we think they must have been the chosen people. This is the last great part playing out.

What would you do if some beings appeared and removed all our governments and told us they had been controlling us since the beginning of time? Would you think they were here to take over the world?

Bush Sr was always talking NWO, there must be scores of
videos on youtube talking about it.

It does not sound like a Christianity thing.

God made all the difference in the world and Christians
embrace what God has made for the own own good,
to mess with Gods creation is not Christian.

No, Christians are for the NWO for 1 reason, and 1 reason only: It would mean the rule of Jesus Christ on earth for a thousand years is much closer, but first, the earth has to go through 7 years of trial and tribulation, brought on by Satan and his New World Order. (Doesn't say that specifically, but that is the beleif in a nutshell.)

It is a paradox, for no true Christian would actually want to see such disaster hit the earth for any length of time. however, even though the antichrist is the enemy of Christianity, and hence everything that the antichrist would stand for (such as an NWO, one world religion, single currency, and etc, etc, etc....) would be our enemy as well. But at the same time, like I said, it would spell out the beginning of 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ.....after 7 years.

So, in essence, Christians are not exactly NWO supporters in any kind of way, unless they are trying to usher in the era that comes after such an abomination as the NWO. In which case, they would have to be supporters of the antichrist, which means they are not really Christian, because they are supposed to completely opposed to the antichrist.

See why this is a paradox?

The NWO is only mentioned in Christian circles because of what the Bible says in Revelations regarding the Man of Lawlessness, The so called Beast out of the sea. This is tied up with the Mark of the beast and what is said in Daniel 2 of a "Kingdom that will Arise that will control the whole world.

This is interpreted as One world Gov. or New world order.

On you question of the sins. Man needs to over come Temptations, lusts and desires, If they get a hold of you then you failured at that. If it’s a sickness then you need to look into their past for Sins and into their past Family history. (This is another complex topic).

Yes Millions of Christians are going to be miss-lead by the “Anti-Christ” Bible says that too. With the current Global structure and division among countries and religions the stage is almost set for the “Beast” to deceive Millions.

The Muslims are waiting for the son of God to come upon the earth, The Jews mostly don’t believe that Jesus was the son of God and are also waiting for him to return as Promised in their scriptures. The Catholics number 1 Billion it’ll only need one person “the pope” to confirm that this person is the Christ and most all will follow him. An event like this will cause all the “fence sitting” religions (who are not sure) to just follow the masses.

Many Churches will stand up against this but will to be going against what the masses are accepting. So they be the “bad Guys” and persecuted.

This will all be brought about by a few events.
1] This person (Beast)will die in battle (Or appear so) and will be healed. (Counterfeit- same as what happened to Jesus, died and rose again on the 3rd day)
2]He’ll bring down fire from Heaven on command( If I’m not mistaken Elijah the prophet was the only one to ever have done this)
3] He’ll perform Miracles, healing the sick , just like Jesus did.

Lucifer’s name was given to him By God, that’s why it is what it says, but he had pride and went against God. And is now Satin, He was given the name before he was expelled out of the presence of God/Heaven. And not after he was expelled. Yes his name Splendor and light is again counterfeit-it will fool Millions.

Jesus is a healer, the Anti Christ will be totally fake.

There will most likely be a method for levitation not
known to us now or then, but it will be a mechanism
and a fake levitation.

The Masters of Illusion up a notch and likely to fool
many.

ED: Not that sure of Jesus ruling over the world but
they say that might happen after the defeat of the
Anti Christ when two of Gods great people return
to earth and expose him. I'm not sure who kills him.

ED2: Interesting thought not to side with the pope.
Jesus should be able to make himself know at the second
coming in glory with out a pope pointing: "There He Is".

[edit on 5/17/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 5/17/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

I think the answer to the question can be found in the OT. The people demanded a king like the nations had, and god says that those people reject him. They decide to live and have a king rather than live under the authority of god.

Thus any and all things which claim an authority are on earth are guilty of such things.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
ED: Not that sure of Jesus ruling over the world but
they say that might happen after the defeat of the
Anti Christ when two of Gods great people return
to earth and expose him. I'm not sure who kills him.

I personally see it as "truth" ruling over the world, rather than the lie we have now. Where the truth is the authority among men, not the wicked.

Originally posted by SharkBait
The NWO is only mentioned in Christian circles because of what the Bible says in Revelations regarding the Man of Lawlessness, The so called Beast out of the sea. This is tied up with the Mark of the beast and what is said in Daniel 2 of a "Kingdom that will Arise that will control the whole world.

This is interpreted as One world Gov. or New world order.

On you question.....(etc, etc, etc.....)

This is a much better summation than my measly attempt at one.

I'm wondering how they; the Illuminati, NWO and the like.. the ones who fool
the world with erroneous science and rule with lies and tell us ETs
have the science that is Tesla and ours that they stole; will make
the Anti Christ levitate.

I'm sure it will be some kind of metallic suit.

reply to post by Shoomoo


Umm, not to sound harsh or seem inflammatory here, may I ask just how much you know about the bible? In the bible, it reveals the now here new world order in many chapters, and it even reveals the economic plagues we are now seeing right as of this minute!

The nwo in the bible is not a violent, workem to death type of world that you seem to have envisioned here, but it's a bit the opposite. For instance, if you add up all the holy days, and the sabbath days, man would only work about 9 months out of each year!

For example, you have the feast of the tabernacles, the sabbath, the year of jubilee, the passover, hannukah, and I don't know right off hand how many more holidays, but the average american citizen is overworked compared to the rest of the world!

I can go on and on with the rest of what you posted like homosexuality, gluttony, slothiness, and pride and the rest, and show it all in detail at how God will deal with it, but God has a grand plan for believers, and all he does is ask that we believe in him, nothing more.