I Was Tortured by the CIA

Originally posted by wiredamerican
reply to post by QuestForFreedom

 

After reading your OP thread, I really have to suggest two movies to you.

I am assuming you watch movies.

1st I recommend a movie titled "Conspiracy theory." 1997 starring Mel Gibson .

2nd I recommend a movie called "A Beautiful Mind" 2001 starring Russell Crowe.

Lets not forget to have him watch the episode of Star Trek The Next Generation where Picard is tortured with 4 lights while they are trying to convince him there is only 3.

A powerful episode that may shed some light (pun definitely intended) on the situation.

Actually I am not going to harass you, the previous post was just some cheap attempt at humor.

Here is what I would suggest to you. If you really believe these people are following you, torturing you, harassing you...whatever. This is what I would do if I were in your situation.

These people obviously have to eat and leave the house. When they do, follow them around, everywhere they go. Bring a camcorder with you and document your experiences. *note* If they try to lead you into an unincorporated or abandoned area, I would suggest you turn around at that point. Follow them everywhere and MAKE IT OBVIOUS that you are doing so (meaning don't lag too far behind and try to be sneaky). Start shopping online and ordering inexpensive items that come in relatively large packages that are delivered by a parcel company not the post office. Keep a camcorder handy all the time. As a matter of fact, I would even put one on a tripod and aim it at the houses you suspect and put it in the front yard so they can see it. Start writing on every blog, conspiracy site, news site you can find, upload video and provide details of your own surveillance. **One big note here** You better make damned sure that you have absolutely no connection, affiliation, or relationship to anyone that is on either the terrorist watch list or considered a person of interest before you do this, because if you do, this will not be good for you.

If these people are in fact who you think they are, you will know for sure at this point, because they will definitely react to this.

As for my personal opinion, I think your just paranoid, but this would not be the first time I have been wrong in my life nor will it be the last (God I hate admitting that, I hope my wife doesn't see this).

Yeah,

I'm doubting the authenticity of this one.


nice story though.

Why are you telling ATS? Go tell Nancy Pelosi about this. Heck get the ACLU also. Also some proof would be nice. Also who says its the CIA? They always hire contractors who do over 70% of their jobs. Maybe it could have been a PMC? Also wouldn't they just do a rendition and hand you over to the VEVAK?

The CIA would have had you blindfolded and drugged on board the next plane to Jordan, Syria, or Egypt. I don't think Nancy Palosi would call whatever it is that is happening to you torture.

Wow....i dont believe anything that you have just said, i think you could use some professional help.

I believe you 100% and the second post was very specific, and I felt the absolute truth in what he was saying. Thank you for being brave and going public. I would like to know exactly who we can contact, and I'm in Canada, so don't know, to make a stink about this? What you specifically feel you need done?

If it was me, I'd be gathering evidence quickly and posting it online, with a camcorder, etc, before they can stop it. I would also get a group of loud aggressive women together with a bullhorn and the minute the lights started, would start yelling the facts like: How dare you do this torture CIA stuff? How could you even take on assignments like that? I would go up to the one I recognized and blast him loudly around everyone, with very specific words like:
Hey you, you're that CIA guy stalking me. I recognize you.

Then I'd red out to the point nothing, his weapons, wether he was a super psi op biomachine even would matter. OK, but I don't know. I just don't believe anyone should go through this stuff quietly and submissively. I wouldn't!!!

But I really feel for you and wish we could help. I've only read part way on page 1, so I'll go aback and read the rest now. Starred and flagged. By the
way, I included what I would do, because I hope they're monitoring this and realize some people just don't believe in letting them quietly do anything and would be in their face ASAP if they, or someone they knew was going through something this!



[edit on 16-5-2009 by mystiq]

Originally posted by The Loge
Wow....i dont believe anything that you have just said, i think you could use some professional help.

Yeah I agree man sorry to say but it sounds to me that you have schizophrenia you should probly tell your family or friends to come over and if they don't see what you see then you would probly know cuz I doubt the CIA would go through all that trouble I mean I'm sure they have much better things to do than harrass some inocent person.

Hook,line and sinker

Lets remember..oh,um

Project Hedon.."this reaks of the same thing''
How Reptilians Breed..
other garbage people took for truth..

OH,what happened to his other thread of the same thing from a few days ago??

I'm really amazed at the types of posts suggesting this is mental illness. No, this is either CIA or a complete fabrication. But, something tells me in the way he is writing and the energy in his posts along with the unconventional mistreatment (at least by public ideas, probably very conventional), obviously being done to discredit him, that its completely 100% unfabricated and very real. And it really makes me mad. If this is being done to many people, why don't they get together, even online, and get others involved to really really kick some butt!!!! No one should go through this quietly and submissively.

If this was CIA,dont you think his ISP would be nuked??

Come on...

The CIA is forbidden under law to operate here in the mainland United States. Therefore,

I shout BS!

If it was the CIA, and you were worth that much trouble, they'd just hire out and have you disappear.

Have you ever thought of just walking right over and confronting your harassers? I think I would just go right to the source ready to drop whatever it was doing this. I would do it as many times as possible until it was THEM who was being harassed by me. Screw it man. Don't be scared just go over there to those lights and walk up to them and say "what the hell are you doing and how do you want to handle this"? This is typical bully activity and until you face them head on, it will get worse. They crave the fear. You have to get mad enough to say "NO MORE, Let's Rock!". Who cares who they are, if they harass you, you can also harass them.

Honestly, this could just be a case of racial/ ethnic harassment, not because of your possible "foreign intelligence connections," but simply because you're Iranian. Think of "douchebag, college fratboys" with a strong sense of nationalism in what they perceive to be America's enemy. I want to believe U.S. intelligence works inconspicuously as to not alert "the enemy." Why would they want to make their presence known? It would only change your habits, and make you avoid taking any incriminating actions. Try to relax a little bit, brother... not everyone is out to get you.

Originally posted by mystiq
I'm really amazed at the types of posts suggesting this is mental illness. No, this is either CIA or a complete fabrication.[..]

I'm really amazed you're so eager to dismiss the possibility of a mental illness. In fact, whether the story is true or not, he describes an awful lot of symptoms you could experience with certain types of schizophrenia. Intelligent, coherent persons can succumb to schizophrenia just as much as anyone else.. So how do you know so sure that this is either fake or really happening? I agree, it sounds real, but mostly in the way he describes it - it sounds very real for him. But that doesn't tell us whether it actually is real, too.

Of course that applies to any story, I just disagree with your intolerance.

Not with his story. This is too coherent and too eye opening! And it really makes me furious. I was just doing the dishes and thinking about the free reign that the public has given the Nazis for so long and its outrageous. All it takes is for people to stand up and make a stink. But we need to be protective of others, and support our neighbours as well. So don't be so quick to go buying the mental illness thing. In fact, if too many come on push that angle, I would suspect they were not typical posters so to speak.

Now one of the things I'd be shouting at them when they put on the light show, in a group of women is, "What kind of lame performance are you putting on here? With the kind of funding you guys get, I'd expect some kind of music you
cheap (off color language!)." What are you guys, seriously underfunded? Move along!"

Without a doubt you are being harassed on an official basis. I am also in the same boat as you and being actively stalked and surveilled. The basis of the attack is psychological so it is not so covert and designed to make you fearful. It is a kind of no touch assault. Eventually electronic harassment will be employed but do not fall into the trap of believing the rubbish being propagated on the internet.

The electronic aspect is about polluting your environment with electromagnetic fields so you develop a sensitivity. This is used to facilitate the psychological harassment and to be in constant physical discomfort. The authorities will not assist you and you will be rail roaded into being classified as a mental case. You will find the disinformants on ATS and the ignorant will always suggest that you are mad. That is the objective of the whole process. If that does not work and you react violently to a harassment event, prison on trumped up charges will do and you will broken in prison.

The people employed to conduct this harassment are generally not federal agents but volunteers from fringe churches, informer networks and the criminal classes. Had you been suspected of being some kind of agent or spy, you would have been picked up and imprisoned a long time ago. This about targeting the Muslim community in the same way communists were targeted in the US.

Generally this form of harassment, in a disorganised basis, was employed within the black communities in the US and UK for decades as a default. The entire thesis of this thing is about harming the best and the brightest in a given community and is rooted in occultism and secret societies practises to either recruit or break a competitor of a member.

The electronic harassment is oriented around two areas; household appliances such as boilers and refrigerators will be tampered to to emit em fields and harmonics in the power supply, wiring to switches and sockets will also be reversed at the live and neutral, the resistor to the phoneline and cable disabled. The second layer of attack will be with the aid of an adjoining neighbour who will either be bribed, blackmailed or replaced to help in the electronic attack. They will be asked to use something like a cat and genny pipe locator, used to detect buried water pipes, to saturate your prone body while asleep with radio frequency waves to expedite various symptoms that includes electrosenstivity, autoimmune disorders, spasms, fatigue, cramping and skin problems.

Surviving these attacks is imperative and you can protect yourself with adequate shielding. You can in fact install shielding products in your home when decorating and I have found that layered maylar sheets under carpets and in curtain lining highly effective. A combination of mirrors, Y sheild paint and metallised wall paper to walls work very well.

To get alliances and support from third parties will require your wit and ignoring these stalkers will take moral fortitude. I take the view that Allah does not burden us with what we cannot bear and that being persecuted for being a Muslim gives God's blessings.

In the end you must remember that cause stalking, whether sanctioned by some authority or security services, is highly illicit and very illegal. Those involved in the US and UK, if found out, face the prospect prosecution and imprisonment. Do not allow yourself to become alienated because this is what these people want to add substance to their lies. Also carry on with your life and successes which they can't stop without exposing themselves. Always involve yourself with activities that render their slander campaigns useless such voluntary work at a school, say, once a week and be high profile about it.

Finally, the fringe church freaks that are recruited to join in on the harassment are after one thing and that is to convert you hence the apparent absurd statements like, "the truth will free you", etc. They are motivated to harvest converts from the Muslim community having found the wider community barren. They are a weak people hoping to feed on the human detritus of this programme and are largely ignorant of the entire picture. They actually believe that once you have become an apostate that your suffering will be over.

In the four years that I been harassed, a few of these churchy types have had their conscience pricked and have told me of what they are doing and exposed to me the incomplete picture they have.

Good luck my friend.

[edit on 043131p://pm3147 by masonwatcher]

Quit blaming bush, the problems go back 10x farther then that. And second off this is written by a weird individual.

I hate to bring this old saw out again but Oscam's Razor!!!

IF your story is true, then I might suggest that your "cover" isn't too good.
If they are truly out to get you then might it be because they have reason?

I also find it serendipidous that your story came out at the same time of the "torture" issues that have plagued Pelosi and co.

Personally, I don't think your story holds water.

00.02

"The next incident occurred on September 22, 2007 while flying back to USA from Iran from a 3 month vacation."

Last time I went on a 3 month "vacation" the DI referred to it as "Boot Camp". Perhaps the length of the trip threw up a few red flags?