I Was Tortured by the CIA

Originally posted by SoulOrb
You need to decide what is important in you life, are you an Iranian or American. If you are Amercan, forget about Iran and the middle east,

I refer to myself as an American of Iranian Descent, or an Iranian-American

you must be a mix of 1000s of ethnicities for you to say forget about your culture/heritage/ancestors with such ease

[edit on 21-5-2009 by QuestForFreedom]

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
Unless you have some real value (spy, terrorist...) why should cia/mi5/6 waste time, money and effort on you (any you).

i already replied on why i think this is occurring to me and why this is not a waste of time and money relatively speaking, if u want i can re-copy it for u again, also see my post script in the OP

[edit on 21-5-2009 by QuestForFreedom]

Originally posted by SoulOrb

Originally posted by telemetry
Op:
for what my countrymen have done to you.

Small technical note, I think he is American, that should be OUR. Is he not American first and foremost since he was born here? What does the ties to Iran matter. If he is American, he should be afford the same rights as any American.

Well said, I am an American, born and raised. Granted my ancestors did not fight in the Revolution or any other wars since i am first generation, I still consider myself American,

on a side note, my parents have paid taxes for the past 30 years and are still paying taxes (ironically, the same taxes are going towards the funding of the torture of their son after he spoke).

Originally posted by QuestForFreedom


why would i see a doctor, if i told a doctor what was happening to me, i would be admitted to a mental hospital,

Which was my point. You have physical symptoms of seeing lights and hearing noises, and mentally, well.... you need medical attention. Physically and mentally, I don't think you are well at all.

They won't necessarily lock you up in a mental hospital. Might put you on meds, yeah. But you do need help. Your ranting on here displays classic symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.

As far as your reasons believing it's ok to post here, you are wrong. If they were watching you,. persecuting you, they already know you are posting here. And this is not merely one site amongst thousands, this is the biggest most widely read copnspiracy site on the net.

You need help my friend. Talk to your family, your friends, your co-workers. They will probably tell you the same thing.

Originally posted by QuestForFreedom
lets say in the end nothing comes out of my blogging and forums,

I can assure you that nothing will come from your blogging and forums, because you provide no proof.

Originally posted by QuestForFreedomi think the only way out of this is for them to publicly admit what they have done, and allow me my day in court

I can assure you youu will never have your day in court, because you provide no proof.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
You need help my friend. Talk to your family, your friends, your co-workers. They will probably tell you the same thing.

Skadi is right

You need to talk to SOMEONE

You are not going to get any tangible help from posting here

If this stuff is real you need help to move away or stop the harassment

If it is imaginary you just need... help. Period.

reply to post by QuestForFreedom


no government is going to incur "incidents" on you that occur every month or every few months to "drive you insane" if this was real it would be much more in your face obvious. you sir are probably in need of medication

Originally posted by QuestForFreedom

Originally posted by craig732

] I work part-time for a private investigator. I will give you 40 hours of my services free.
So U2U me and we will set up a meeting so I can handle this for you.

I appreciate your help, but I wish to remain anonymous and i hope you understand why, lets say in the end nothing comes out of my blogging and forums, but my name gets put all over the internet with this story (for all i know you can be one of these people who thinks i am crazy and out for malice)

I do not understand why.

If these alleged torturers already know who you are, what difference does it make if anyone else knows? Especially people who are willing to help you?

They are already ruining your life.... how could it be worse?

I am offering help. If I really wanted to find you, for malice as you suggest, I probably could in about 6 hours.

I'm sorry if this offends you in anyway, but I still don't believe you. If you want to win the help of the posters here, provide evidence. FILM one of the encounters, please... IF these events are truley happening.

In all seriousness though, I still don't see any reason for the government to be spying on you. Your claims are pretty intense so please, enlighten us.

You say you want our help, and then when one of our members offers his help, you turn him down because you want to stay anonymous? If the government is really after you, they are probably following this thread, reading your mail, your emails, your phone calls, whenever you use your credit card... I don't see what accepting help from one of our members will do.

Seriously.. I'm really sorry if this offends you.. But I am not buying your story at all. You've provided no evidence that the government is following you and 'torturing' you, you decline help from members after asking for it..?... And I still don't see why in the world they would be spying on you for over 36 months...

I've taken many psychology classes, have you considered seeing a psychologist? You show signs of being a paranoid schizophrenic... No offense.

-Jimmy-

simply put - You Sir, need to stop smoking cigarrettes and RUN

Originally posted by Jimmy910130
I'm sorry if this offends you in anyway, but I still don't believe you.
-Jimmy-

all there truly is, is a man's word.





ignorance is bliss eh "Jimmy king of the hill"?

Originally posted by Hemoglobin
reply to post by QuestForFreedom

 

no government is going to incur "incidents" on you that occur every month or every few months to "drive you insane" if this was real it would be much more in your face obvious.

I'm not sure if I agree with that blanket statement

If the OP really was the focus of some group's attention (not saying he is, but if he was) then subtle incidents to push him over the edge and appear crazy would be an effective method to render him incapable of functioning and requesting outside support from others

QFF, pay no attention to the paid disinfo artists. The last thing you need to do is seek some psychobabble practitioner. That would only start you on the road to permanent imprisonment in some ‘mental health’ gulag. You need to seek out other targeted individuals and network with them for mutual support. The second post in this thread offered some resources right off the bat. Just be aware that any organization will be infiltrated and perhaps controlled by the establishment that is bedeviling you. Do a search on gangstalking, targeted individuals, cointelpro, etc, and make use of the many resources you find. Most importantly, make sure you are as close to your creator as you can get, because right now Satan has his teeth sunk deeply into your hind end.

Also, if you were born in the USA then you are as American as George Washington. You should be as proud of your Persian heritage as I am of my Choctaw, Slavic and Anglo background(s). Unfortunately, it seems that our once great and free nation has devolved into a state of utter tyranny much like the USSR, East Germany and Communist China. The same sort of intelligence apparatus that we both are targets of exists here now just as it does there. We are perceived as threats by the establishment, and so they seek to defend their power. There is no where to run as it is a spiritual battle you are fighting at the core. Just remember that you and God make a majority.

Originally posted by 6EQUJ5
"The next incident occurred on September 22, 2007 while flying back to USA from Iran from a 3 month vacation."

Last time I went on a 3 month "vacation" the DI referred to it as "Boot Camp". Perhaps the length of the trip threw up a few red flags?

Now this is clever thinking! You are simply because of your origin suspect. A next war might just be with Iran. Whether a real war or a cover up to acquire things. Maybe you have that "typical Muslim" look. Somebody that just stands out to be the next terrorist.

In the mean while, what can you do? You will never be able to convince however they are that you are ok. It is like it used to be with blacks; a crime has happened oh it must be that black guy. On the other hand, with what kind of people do/did you hang out? I mean is your slate so to say really clean or are there maybe incriminating things?

Maybe you could become a public figure in some way and make it too costly for them to harrass you. I don't know. You are not dealing with a stalker here but with an organisation with an axe to grind. Which organisation I don't know.

The people suggesting that you need medication. I hope you rather have a mental illness that can be treated than to be seen as a potential terrorist. Good luck!

Originally posted by resistor
QFF, pay no attention to the paid disinfo artists.

You're paranoid. People on this board are giving advice. Whether that advice is right (info) or wrong (disinfo) I bet you a large amount of money that no-one in this thread is being PAID to get the OP into a hospital

Do a search on gangstalking, targeted individuals, cointelpro, etc, and make use of the many resources you find.

I have read a fair bit of information on gangstalking and targetted individuals (TIs) in the last few months, trying to make up my mind whether it is a real phenominon or not.

Most of the stories and websites seem to be full of people who are paranoid and/or mentally unbalanced. When they get together via the net and disuss the issue it can reinforce their beliefs and then the delusions can REALLY spiral out of control. I don't think that it is healthy.

I have read a small number of stories of mind control experiments that are convincing (sorry I did not keep a record of the links) and I am sure are genuine.

COINTELPRO is a different matter all together - this is a known and proven government project.

Don't get me wrong - I am under no illusion that government surveillance, experimental technology, mind control and harassment does not go on, I just don't believe it is as widespread as you would think

The OP may be tragetted but at the moment I just don't think he is. Some solid video or audio evidence might help convince me.

Before I finish let me point you to a few youtube clips. I spent hours and hours a few months ago trawling youtube for gang stalking clips.

The first is the best video of its kind (in my opinion) and had me believing in gang stalking:

Gang Stalking

Then I found these types of clips which seem to be paranoia:

Gang Stalking perp tries to make accident

Here's a pretty good example of someone that I believe is suffering from paranoia for you to consider:

PERPS TALKING ABOUT MY IMPLANTS ETC

The lady in question Leslie Crawford is a prolific youtube video blogger who may or may not be a genuine targetted individual

She is convinced she is being harassed but I cannot find any evidence in her 170+ videos

If you got some time check it out and see what you think:

lesliecrawford's Channel

Like I said - I fully believe that the government is capable of harassing people in all sorts of ways imaginable. But I am not sure if it is actually happening to all of the people that claim this.

And no, I have not been paid to type this post

[edit on 23/5/2009 by alienanderson]

reply to post by alienanderson


I must congratulate you on your thorough research and you are correct on several issues. The most sobering aspect is that there are genuinely ill and distressed individuals making outlandish claims and jumping on the bandwagon to explain away their predicament.

At the core of organised stalking is the effect it has on sane individuals. It does reduce them into paranoia. Some people do get very upset and appear to be delusional and the likes of you stick the boot in because you are so cocksure of your opinions.

People's rights are being violated, and you do not have the right to dismiss their cries on a public forum. If you are sure of your judgement of this issue fine but you will have to provide evidence of your claims. Leslie Crawford is an individual making her own claims and has no bearing on the OP's.

This kind of statement will not do;

Like I said - I fully believe that the government is capable of harassing people in all sorts of ways imaginable. But I am not sure if it is actually happening to the people claiming this.

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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


Which was my point. You have physical symptoms of seeing lights and hearing noises, and mentally,

i do not imagine things, i see them, they are real,

Originally posted by craig732


I can assure you that nothing will come from your blogging and forums, because you provide no proof.

I can assure you youu will never have your day in court, because you provide no proof.

i disagree, i believe many people have read my OP which is what i set out to do

and the only way i will see a day in court is if those torturing me admit their wrongdoing and take on the responsibility of their actions, including President Obama for ordering it to occur

Originally posted by alienanderson

You are not going to get any tangible help from posting here
If this stuff is real you need help to move away or stop the harassment
If it is imaginary you just need... help. Period.

like i said moving away will make no difference, when i was on vacation on iran, the psychological symptoms persisted (and i am not talking about incidents ocurring, those are real, those are not symptoms, i am talking about shaking in my bed, feeling like i want to scratch off my skin etc)

and i am getting tangible results from posting here, many people have heard my story