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Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
You are definitely a dreamer, I will give you that. Do you have any concept of how you plan to create a new body to house our dna? Am I wrong to assume we will need our brains as well?
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I read your book and I will try to keep my comments to more of a positive criticism. I thought the premise of the book, that we can live in abundance, is false. We can not live in abundance, because resources are not unlimited.
Originally posted by prevenge
personally, I think that the only solution to poverty/lack of abundance ...
is to completely annihilate the value we hold for anything that is lacking abundance.
remove the need for water, food, shelter, lighting, heat..
by inhabiting new bodies that do not require any of those.
obviously this transformation would take some time, so solutions such as yours would be necessary for the interim transitional period.
but when you really think about it, the vast majority of our infrastructure is actually a mechanical extention of our collective mouths, digestive system, skin, hair.
clothes are based on the same purpose as skin and hair. to keep us warm.
supermarkets, trucking, shipping, all based on our mouths and stomachs need.
plumbing, water treatment, sewage, all based on our need for water and messy need to waste alot of it.
housing .. all that you see across this earth like a cancer.. is our need to stay a specific temperature in order to survive or do other things in comfort.
it's a giant (and ugly) extrapolation of our bodily needs.
if we used our imagination, and rebelled against the naysayers of imagination, and ones that state what's possible and impossible, then we could start at the very basis of this problem of under/over abundance imbalance, and adjust the ONE MOLECULE that would influence the need for such a band-aid type infrastructure...
our DNA.
if we created new bodies that needed NONE of these things.. then we could spend all our time focussed on exploring and creating.
instead of all our time eating, drinking, sleeping, and worrying about hot to make money in order to keep eating and drinking and sleeping comfortably.
just like christ or krishna or buddha.
unlock that junk dna and forget about this wasteful world.
you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Amaterasu
I doubt it. If that was true oil and gold would be a fraction of its current cost. They have value because they are limiited resources. Plus if no one works and everyone is laying around all day and never getting sick or going hungry you would have a huge population explosion. So how you going to have abundance when there are 20 billion people. If I didnt work and all my needs were met I would have nothing to do but have as much sex as possible.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by justsomeboreddude
You know I have thought more about your idea and decided I am wrong and you are right. I even have an idea on how to accomplish it. We could build a series of super computers and develop tech to dowload everyones consicousness into it. Then we could create a virtual world that is like our own but on a higher set of morals.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
How exactly is oil unneccessary. Do you know of some free energy invention or something else to COMPLETELY replace it. You watch as China and India becomes more developed, you will continue to see how limited the oil supply really is.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Amaterasu
Also I did read your book. I admit I had a hard time following it, because it was structured so that you went from an imaginary dialogue, a little story if you will, and then back and forth to a political/society model. I would have found it more useful if it was just focused on how we would acheive a world ruled by the idea of abundance in cold hard facts and steps, but you know how us Lizard Hearts are. We like our cold hard facts.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Amaterasu
If someone had created a free energy device no one could stop it from moving forward.
For example, worst case, you could put the plans and undeniable proof on the internet and people could build them on there own and test to see that they work.
The problem up to this point is no one has succeeded, because of those darn convservation of energy laws.
I hope someday someone figures it out.
I even created a thread on here asking for proof and not one person could produce anything of value.
I have alos spent countless hours researching it because it is a topic that interests me but not one person has created anything more than a hoax or an illusion to produce a little profit off of the foolish.
Let me ask you since you are so enlightened, does you or someone else pay your electric bill, gas bill, etc every month?