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reply to post by ravenshadow13


I agree. It is public to see what is starred and flagged, and mods can do this as well. But the applauses being private is a good idea as mods may not want everyone to know. They may want to remain impartial and if people saw what they were applauding it wouldnt be so. They don't have to agree with a post to applaud it but like how a member made their point.

My take on it anyway

reply to post by seagrass


Stars and flags are subjective, too.

reply to post by kinglizard


Agree again, especially in threads that you can't star. I have sent many u2us saying I liked a post and usually get a reply of thanks. Made several friends this way as well.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
reply to post by seagrass

 

Stars and flags are subjective, too.

Yes, but they are seen. And if there was a standard then a certain amount of member stars equal applause. Mod or otherwise.

If applause needs to be hidden and private then there is something wrong with it.
In general. And to be rated by it, even more so.

reply to post by seagrass


You can see how many applauses anyone has on their profile.

reply to post by seagrass


I have to say that since my time on ATS I have had 2 warnings, and at the time I took them personally, however I have also recieved applause from those same Mods later on. So I learned that the same Mods that were there to moderate my temper were also later there to compliment me for a positive contribution and I like those statistics.

I am 'always' so shocked when I recieve an applause and they rarely come from the same mods.

So really you can go months without an applause and then Bam! You get 5 in one week when you least expect it. I just figure sometimes your on and sometimes youre off.

I just get so involved with the great discussions who cares what happens after that because the real reward is how much I have learned and grown since first discovering this fantastic forum.

Originally posted by Blogstalker
Agree again, especially in threads that you can't star. I have sent many u2us saying I liked a post and usually get a reply of thanks. Made several friends this way as well.

Yeah it really is a nice surprise and means more to most than applause or stars or whatever. I've sent them on many occasions and have received a few in my time.

The favoritism doesn't have to be about a member but can do with a topic. Perhaps a particularly good post goes unnoticed just because a topic isn't quite that popular. Or it's "been said before". The truth is all these judgments (stars, flags and applause) are rather arbitrary on some level.

But what I think the real core of the issue is, who are we supposed to be impressing? Is it about the site owners (aside from maintaining their standards) or the membership, who are the heart and soul of the site. This would be the real reason behind awarding mod applause to posts receiving so many stars. A way for management to further recognize what the membership already has. And this isn't a points issue at all. Rather it's just that it can demonstrate an active outlook.

Really, I wouldn't have even thought about it if it weren't for that fact that my applause level is openly displayed in every post I make. Is that to say I think I deserve more? Not at all.

The fact is it just clearly demonstrates that there are two standards of excellence on ATS. One determined by management and one by membership. The suggestion is merely to meet the two somewhere in the middle.

reply to post by TravelerintheDark


Members are allowed to use the alert feature in a post to suggest an applause if they feel the post deserves it.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
reply to post by seagrass

 

You can see how many applauses anyone has on their profile.

yes, a number. But for what? I would like to see what is applauded. I don't care if I agree with it or not.
Otherwise it is a tally that has no meaning to anyone but the mod and the poster.

Originally posted by kinglizard

Originally posted by Blogstalker
Agree again, especially in threads that you can't star. I have sent many u2us saying I liked a post and usually get a reply of thanks. Made several friends this way as well.

Yeah it really is a nice surprise and means more to most than applause or stars or whatever. I've sent them on many occasions and have received a few in my time.

I have as well, and yes, they mean much more, since they took the time to let you know.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
I kind of like that applause is private. I don't get many of them (obviously) but sometimes I've been given them on sensitive topics and I feel like if people saw that, they could get angry. Like "Why are they applauded for saying x about y, when I think z?"

It might be telling to see it though. We wouldn't know who did it. It could lead to more a definitive standard for earning applause.

For example, you can go to someone's profile with alot of applause, look at their posts and be at a loss about just what it is they tend to say that got them so much, then be completely PO-ed because their stuff looks like drivel to you. Thus, we end up in a similar situation but it just takes a little more reasearch to find out.

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Thanks fer the
*Ducking Beer Bottles flying at the Stage*

I know I've only been here since 01/05/09, but, have "Lived" on the site since joining and wanted to thank all those that came before me, for showing me "The Ropes" and for all that follow my "Antics" on a few selected Threads...

Only thing to add would be to make sure "The Vetrans" get the due respect they deserve...I wouldn't of been here if not for them weaving this masterpiece all these years

Now...back to your regularly scheduled programming...

But see I've been applauded about things like the Holocaust and abortion and I feel like the members who don't believe in the Holocaust or people who are strictly pro-life would become really angry about that. Even though my posts had a great deal of effort put into them.

Do you see where I'm coming from? I think making them public would just cause more complaints.

Originally posted by seagrass
Otherwise it is a tally that has no meaning to anyone but the mod and the poster.

Which is exactly the way it's intended to work and that's not going to change. The applause is between the particular mod and member. It's a personal recognition from a staff member for something they find above and beyond.

Applauses have always registered in a members mini-profile..going back the more you received the redder the bar...then they affected the newer blue and green bars...now they show in a different way.

You don't need to find fault with something to dislike it...just dislike it, make your point known and move on. sheesh...

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by TravelerintheDark

 

Members are allowed to use the alert feature in a post to suggest an applause if they feel the post deserves it.

I certainly considered this. But the ALERT button is rather intimidating isn't it? A bit alarming. I've pressed it, but only for posts that needed examination for not being worthwhile on some level.

I can't remember though, is there a comment section? I believe not. The ALERT button simply sends a standardized U2U doesn't it? I don't remember being able to actually say what it was I was alerting a mod to, but that I'd be contacted if further info was for some reason required on my part.

But that still to me doesn't really address what I meant. That I personally think that having what at least appears to be two standards of excellence on ATS is somewhat counter-productive to the community image and mentality necessary to foster the rich content we all truly want.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
But see I've been applauded about things like the Holocaust and abortion and I feel like the members who don't believe in the Holocaust or people who are strictly pro-life would become really angry about that. Even though my posts had a great deal of effort put into them.

Do you see where I'm coming from? I think making them public would just cause more complaints.

posting your thoughts is making them public. If you have a great idea or argument, isn't it in everyone's best interest to be able to see and notice such a thought. If you are saying it, then you must believe it and stand by it. They get angry anyway if they don't agree. Having it starred by members or applauded by mods only makes them have to realize that their ideas are not solid. More complaints means you are getting under their skin. Isn't that the point of ATS and its alternative push?

reply to post by TravelerintheDark


The Complaints/Suggestions button in your Member Center(5th from the bottom) allows you provide a comment. That would serve your needs, right?

Originally posted by kinglizard

Originally posted by seagrass
Otherwise it is a tally that has no meaning to anyone but the mod and the poster.

Which is exactly the way it's intended to work and that's not going to change. The applause is between the particular mod and member. It's a personal recognition from a staff member for something they find above and beyond.

Applauses have always registered in a members mini-profile..going back the more you received the redder the bar...then they affected the newer blue and green bars...now they show in a different way.

You don't need to find fault with something to dislike it...just dislike it, make your point known and move on. sheesh...

Oh, so if we have no imput then I guess there really isn't a point to this discussion. I will move on then.
I didn't realize nothing was going to change here at the constantly changing ATS.