Amen! - Is this word a conspiracy?

I'm not religious but i do use the word amen sometimes.

Often when someone says something i agree with to another person i will finish it off with an amen.

I believe i picked it up off my dad who uses it in the same sense alot.

I think most people repeat the word in every day speech - not necessarily in connection with prayer - "Amen to that " etc

I would encourage people to switch to saying "so be it" at the end of prayer - if there is no conspiracy - it should't make any difference to anyone

I met this guy in my mind. He called himself El Amen and said that I was praying to him because I ended my prayers with amen. He was pretending to be an alien ninja and got pissed off when I kept calling him Craig. Anyway we battled in dreams; he might have been a psychic assassin or something because he kept telling me to do drugs, kill myself, and stuff like that. Oh and he wanted me to burn in hell and worship satan; Stupid stuff like that.

Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by dashen
Umm, no. Amun, Ra, Amun RE were not a sun god or sun gods. The egyptian sun god was Horus, right?

Umm, no.

wiki/Ennead

The "Great Ennead"

The most important of the Egyptian pesedjets, the so-called Great Ennead (also called the Heliopolis Ennead), consisted of Ra, his children Shu and Tefnut, and their descendants Geb, Isis, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, and Set. It was defined in the Egyptian city of Annu (place of pillars), the Egyptian name for what the Greeks called Heliopolis (sun city), in the last dynasty of the Old Kingdom and other deities who had existed for a thousand years were ignored in order to stress the importance of this local sun deity. The location of the ancient city was five miles east of the Nile River, north of the Delta. The city was later called in Arabic ˁAyn Šams (the eye of the sun). Late in the Ptolemy Dynasty, the Greek rulers failed to favor this local sun deity and their center of learning shifted to the newly-built city of Alexandria, by the first century BC, Strabo found the once great centers at Annu deserted, and the town itself almost uninhabited, although priests remained.

The origins of this grouping now remain uncertain. In some versions Ra mated with Iusaaset, the great one who comes forth, and their children were Shu and Tefnut. Consequently, Iusaaset was seen as the mother and grandmother of the deities. Sometimes she is described as a "shadow" in this pesedjet.

Up until the mid-twentieth century theories of Egyptologists postulated that the Heliopolis priesthood established this pesedjet in order to place their local sun-god, Ra, above all other deities such as Osiris, however, many later Egyptologists now question this. It appears almost certain, however, that the Great Ennead first appeared during the decline of Ra's cult in the sixth dynasty and, that after introduction of the new pesedjet, the cult of Ra soon saw a great resurgence until the worship of Horus gained prominence. Afterward worship focused on the syncretistic solar deity Ra-harakhty (Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons). During the Amarna Period, Akhenaten introduced worship of aother solar deity, Aten, the deified solar disc. He built a temple in Annu, named Wetjes Aten (wṯs ỉtn, Elevating the Sun-disc). Blocks from this temple later were used to build walls to the medieval city of Cairo and are included in some of the city gates. The cult of the Mnevis bull, an embodiment of Ra, had its centre here and established a formal burial ground for the sacrificed bulls north of the city.

wiki/Egyptian_pantheon

First mentions of Isis date back to the fifth dynasty which is when the first literary inscriptions are found, but her cult became prominent late in Egyptian history, when it began to absorb the cults of many other goddesses. It eventually spread outside Egypt. She absorbs many aspects of earlier goddesses, becoming identified as the mother of Horus, who represented and protected the pharaohs.

After Horus, Amun was a regional solar deity whose importance increased greatly when the pharaohs of Thebes regained control of the country from invaders and began the eighteenth dynasty. Ra became the next son of the solar deity and his cult rose to later dominance, eclipsing the earlier deities.

Let's concentrate on the fact that Amun means "The hidden one". I think that's key.

Um yeah, I really like your posts so far, haha.

And as for the 9 Egyptian Gods, how about Gene Roddenberry
creator of Star Trek using Uri Geller (Israeli spy? & spoon bending
friend of Michael Jackson) to channel The 9 Gods for
beneficial information to mankind?
That's some crazy stuff.

I watched a program on Egypt a fair while ago and got the impression that Amen came from Aten, that was just an impression though. 1%

"our Lord Amen" refers to Menes the first pharoh of the united Egypt
books.google.ca...=onepage&q&f=false

its funny what Christians believe
and kinda sad too...

hi Dave

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Full Question

What exactly does amen mean?

Answer

Amen is a word that came to English from Latin, which got it from Greek, which got it from Aramaic, which got it from Hebrew (technically, Aramaic may have had it anyway, before it became the standard language of the Jewish people a few centuries before the time of Christ).

It is difficult to translate this word directly, which is often a reason that words are borrowed from other languages (i.e., if there’s no direct way to translate this foreign word, just borrow it). The specific Hebrew word amen (’amen ) appears to be derived from a related verb--’aman , which means "he confirmed, supported, or upheld." This verb is also associated with the Hebrew word for truth (’emet ), which carries the idea of certainty or dependability (i.e., that which is true is that which is certain or dependable).

’Amen itself is an interjection used to agree with, affirm, approve, or emphasize something else that has been said. Thus when Jesus begins certain sayings by declaring "Amen, amen, I say to you . . . " various Bible translations often render the "amen, amen" different ways. Because of the word’s association with the Hebrew terms for truth, the double amen is sometimes rendered "truly, truly" or "verily, verily." Because of its association with the Hebrew terms for confirmation or dependability, one might also translate it "certainly, certainly" or "most assuredly."

When one says "amen" in response to a prayer, it serves as an affirmation of agreement with the content of the prayer (cf. 1 Cor 14:16)—in which case it is sometimes translated "So be it" (cf. CCC 2856)—or as an expression of faith that God will hear and act on the prayer.

Bottom line: Amen is an interjection associated with the Hebrew words for truth and dependability, it conveys the idea of agreement or emphasis, and its meaning can be translated different ways depending on the context.

Source

RAEL ALLAH
AMEN IS ACTUALLY THE NAME OF THE EGYPTIAN SUN GOD LORD AMEN RA OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. PSALMS 95'3
STATED THAT GOD IS A GREAT LORD ABOVE ALL GODS AND KING ABOVE ALL KINGS
MAYBE THATS WHY YOU HAVE TO TRAVELL NORTH TO SEE LORD AMEN RA
SON OF SIRIUS
RAEL TALKK

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AMEN IS NOT ACTUALLY EVEN COMPELLED INTO WHAT HUMANS CAN MAKE FOR IT TO MEAN..AMEN IS THE NAME OF AN EGYPTIAN KING WHO WAS THE TRUE CHRIST IN FACT AMEN RA WAS BORN DECEMBER 25 AND HIS SON SUN PHAROAH IS THE RISEING SUN SON OF GOD WHICH MAKES HIM AN ANGEL
THE BIBLE IS SOME NOTES FROM THE EGYPTIAN BOOK OF THE DEAD
DWAYNE ROMEO SINGLETARY
2018

return from whence ye came

amen

Why do people speak rubbish?

Because they have absolutely no care for humanity. They believe in telling their own species falsehood because of the deep subconscious hate that they have for other people based on their experiences with them Once upon a time when this person needed love and understanding and compassion from their human counterparts, they were left in a world of isolated due to the incredible amount of selfishness and greed that exists in society, and overwhelmingly noticed that people do not care one bit for their own species, they only care about themselves.

That is why people tell other people lies. It is all based on the hatred they have for people based on their previous experiences with them. It takes a strong person to accept and forgive people for being ignorant and evil, and to do the Will of God for God and not to get even or envious with people.

Because these dishonest people do not know - that God does not lie. You have ten people all frustrated because they judge one another, but they are judging one another based on only seeing part of the truth - they do not understand the whole truth. They are sending negative energy of hatred and frustration to an individual all while being dishonest about and it and claiming that that are sending no energy at all. It keeps hurting this person as all they wanted from human beings was compassion so that they could feel understood. But who has time to understand in a world of pure greed? A world where a man can see another man starving with no clothes on and not want to help him? For a rich man to have money and to see a homeless man starving, and to not want to feed him, is not right. Then for this rich man to go to church and claim he loves Christ, but he cannot stand the thought of giving food to this homeless suffering man? This is the world we live in, and when other people see this wrongness, they turn into liars because they have no urge to tell the truth.

But those judgments that people are making towards that man - God is not judging the same way. So a person can get caught up in the way the world treats them and the way society acts, but the fact is that God does not act that way, God does not think that way. So if a person hates me for a particular reason, why would I feel hated when God does not hate me for that same reason? God judges me based on the inside of my heart and sees how my words and actions are a result of the deep thoughts and feelings I have from my heart. If I am just, God approves of that. If a person judges me wrongly, God does not approve of that. But in reality, everybody judges each other wrongly because they have contempt and hatred for individuals based on the experiences they have seen around them.

a reply to: suziwong

The link in your OP is no longer working/available. Is there another cache site where your article can be read? TIA

a reply to: suziwong

Hi Suzie--

Interestingly, perhaps, an ancient Sefardi pronunciation of the Hebrew (Aleph-Mem-Nun = 'AMEN') was something similar to 'Oh-Main', meaning something akin to 'may it be confirmed' (cf.Wiccan 'So Mote It Be') and even many modern 'orthodox' and 'conservative' Ashkenazi synagogues still use the curiously-sounding 'Oh-Main' pronunciation.

Presumably, "A-MEN' is linguistically cognate to the Heb. 'EMUNAH' ('belief', 'faith', 'confirmation') probably deriving from Heb. 'A-MA-N', meaning 'he confirmed'.

Any proposed etymological connexion with the Egyptian divine name AMUN ('The Invisible One') the ancient Egyptian high-god whose cult-centre was later joined with another ancient and great high-god Re (or 'Ra' = 'the Creator', becoming Amun-Ra) whose cult was centered at the ancient sacred royal-city of Waset (lit. 'Sceptre City' =Thebes) is probably not valid, despite some very strident attempts recently to do so, especially since the term Amen is used as one of the titles for the 'Meshiaq' ('Messiah', or 'ho Christos') cf. Rev. 3:14 ('These are the words of the AMEN, the first of the EL's Creation, the 'faithful and true' witness...')

Hallelujah is a conspiracy.