UN Report: Israel to blame for UN Building attacks

UN Report: Israel to blame for UN Building attacks

UN Finds Israel responsible for the attacks on it's buildings in the "Cast Lead" Palestinian attack. It is now compiling a WAR-CRIMES report that will look at BOTH sides of the conflict.

reply to post by setfree


this seems to be taking a long time...before you know it they will be onto their next war!
How can they justify this when the UN told them their locations. Even if Hamas was there they could be killing one of us as it is a UN facility.

Since Iran has denounced the UN as having outlived its usefulness, then this will be of no interest to them. After all, it would be disingenuous to accept the UN's ruling here...

Right?

Originally posted by Night Watchman
Since Iran has denounced the UN as having outlived its usefulness, then this will be of no interest to them. After all, it would be disingenuous to accept the UN's ruling here...

Right?

didn't the US denounce the UN for exactly the same reason and say out of the other side of their mouth that they were going into iraq for the sake of a UN resolution. the precidents been set right there.

Israel is out of control; they do what they want, when they want, and damn the consequences. It's as if they believe they have a divine right and anything they do is sanctioned by God. Ridiculous.

OF COURSE the corrupt cesspool U.N. would find against Israel.
God forbid if they ever actually blamed the Palestinians for
the problems in the area ...

The corrupt and defunct UN is notorious for its anti-semitism, as well as having an established and historical anti-Israel bias. Accordingly, the alleged biased findings of this UN report is a given.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
OF COURSE the corrupt cesspool U.N. would find against Israel.
God forbid if they ever actually blamed the Palestinians for
the problems in the area ...

I'm not saying that Palestine isn't responsible for war crimes, but Israel has a history of using deadly force to get its way regardless of who may be hurt.

There was an excellent interview on Channel 4 news last night where John Snow tore Mark Regev to shreds over this. Unfortunately no one's uploaded it anywhere yet. The interview ended on Regev claiming that they didn't bomb UN facilities

They knew fine well where the UN facilities were. They even got a call while in the middle of shelling one and said they would stop, yet continued to shell it for 2 hours.

They always claim that militants shoot from the buildings without any evidence at all as an excuse for bombing neutrals and innocent civilians.

I'm sorry, but if one of the most advanced armies in the world can't take out a couple of guys with peashooters that are near a facility without blowing the hell out of it and killing loads of innocent people, then the people of the US of A should be pretty p'd off that the 'military aid' coming from their taxes aint being spent very wisely.

Originally posted by LiquidLight
....but Israel has a history of using deadly force to get its way regardless of who may be hurt.

And the Palestinians do NOT?
What the heck do you describe or include in that phrase "use of deadly force"?! Is committing acts of terrorism included?

You make excuses for one form of violence and yet condemn another?
Your either clueless or a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Nammu
I'm sorry, but if one of the most advanced armies in the world can't take out a couple of guys with peashooters that are near a facility without blowing the hell out of it and killing loads of innocent people, then the people of the US of A should be pretty p'd off that the 'military aid' coming from their taxes aint being spent very wisely.

Another sterotypical and hypocritical commentary.
First of all, when those alleged "peashooters" hide among the populace, thus making them 'human shields,' invariably, civilians will be harmed. Its termed collateral damage.

Likewise, you condemnation of Israel's lack of ability to take out those "peashooters that are near a facility" amounts to being ludicrous and hypocitical. The US, the Russians, the Europeans, etc. cannot take out simple terrorists without vaporizing aspects of a civilian populace. Example: my tax money is currently being utilized by Team Obama to take out terrorists in Pakistan and yet, civilians are included in those 'among the dead' counts. GTFO.

Originally posted by pieman


didn't the US denounce the UN for exactly the same reason and say out of the other side of their mouth that they were going into iraq for the sake of a UN resolution. the precidents been set right there.

The difference is, and it is significant, the US was not in violation of UN Resolutions at the time. Iran is. As is, Israel.

That said, the US' actions in Iraq will never be defended by me.

Originally posted by Seekerof
The corrupt and defunct UN is notorious for its anti-semitism,

Your link is Run by the Chairman for Hebrew Colleges. I wonder why The Chairman for Hebrew Colleges would run a site that says it is independantly monitoring the UN yet fails to point out that its CHAIRMAN is Jewish. Doesn't sound too independant to me. Please, spare us the propoganda.
www.hebrewcollege.edu...
Your link that you labled Anti-semitism but should have labled propoganda


Why is it that whenever a decision is made against Isreal, people screams anti-semitism. Isreal is not the only country in the world that has international decisions and opinions that move against them.

They dropped the Bombs, not the UN. They got caught. Let the PR campaign begin. Oh...it already has.

as well as having an established and historical anti-Israel bias. Accordingly, the
alleged biased findings of this UN report is a given.

You mean,that when Isreal dropped those bombs, that all the reporters reported on, that even the Isreal media machine quickly ran a spin battle with Al JaFEARa on to counter all those damning eye witness accounts, interview, journalist accounts(from many many different countries). That it would be a given that we would hear a report that tell us all what we already know. That this is now anti-semetic.
Please.

The war between Palestine and Isreal is sickening enough without having lackies spout rubbish trying to paint criticism of attrocities as Racism.

Originally posted by LiquidLight

Originally posted by FlyersFan
OF COURSE the corrupt cesspool U.N. would find against Israel.
God forbid if they ever actually blamed the Palestinians for
the problems in the area ...

I'm not saying that Palestine isn't responsible for war crimes, but Israel has a history of using deadly force to get its way regardless of who may be hurt.

This is only accurate if you change, "to get its way," to, "to defend itself,"

Originally posted by atlasastro
Your link is Run by the Chairman for Hebrew Colleges. I wonder why The Chairman for Hebrew Colleges would run a site that says it is independantly monitoring the UN yet fails to point out that its CHAIRMAN is Jewish. Doesn't sound too independant to me. Please, spare us the propoganda.

Oh wait, 1) now its a biased source issue and 2) you'll believe and replace one source of "propaganda" with another piece of propaganda. Irony, huh? How quaint.....not.

Why is it that whenever a decision is made against Isreal, people screams anti-semitism. Isreal is not the only country in the world that has international decisions and opinions that move against them.

Why is that the UN continues to ignore the ongoing genocide in Sudan and yet finds the time to continue to pass condemnations and resolutions against Israel? You blatnatly ignore the inherent anti-israel bias in the UN. I would hazard a guess and say that you attended the recent so called "anti-hate" UN meeting and enjoyed listening to Ahmanutjob spew his rhetoric, huh?

They dropped the Bombs, not the UN. They got caught. Let the PR campaign begin. Oh...it already has.

The provocation was done by whom? Oh, I see you forgot to mention or condemn that breach. Another ironic moment, huh? Yeah, of course, let the anti-Israel PR campaign begin, courtesy of those who think like you: blaming one side while condemning the other side.

The war between Palestine and Isreal is sickening enough without having lackies spout rubbish trying to paint criticism of attrocities as Racism.

See, another example of hypocrisy and one-sidedness. Don't forget to include yourself among those lackies spouting rubbish, kkthx.

[edit on 6-5-2009 by Seekerof]

Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by LiquidLight
....but Israel has a history of using deadly force to get its way regardless of who may be hurt.

And the Palestinians do NOT?
What the heck do you describe or include in that phrase "use of deadly force"?! Is committing acts of terrorism included?

You make excuses for one form of violence and yet condemn another?
Your either clueless or a hypocrite.

Excuse me? Where the hell did I say I was defending the Palestinians? Of course terrorism is wrong, and of course I condemn them. But this thread isn't about the Palestinians, about the Israelis. You should learn to not put words into peoples' mouths. Where the hell does it say that I have to take a side? You're the one who is clueless.

[edit on 5/6/2009 by LiquidLight]

Originally posted by Seekerof


Oh wait, 1) now its a biased source issue and 2)

Your source is saying the UN is biased, and that that bias is against Israel. Your source is Jewish. I doubt a Jewish source would be seen as unbiased, If The Chairman of a Muslim organisation has started a site of similar fashion, and someone linked it with the label Anti-islamic, I am sure you would highlight that, now wouldn't you. Your source makes no attempt to state the Jewish origins of its Founder or the Chairman. I did that for them. Why do you have a problem with the truth?

you'll believe and replace one source of "propaganda" with another piece of propaganda. Irony, huh? How quaint.....not.

I have replaced "your source, with your source". I have replaced nothing. I choose to raise the FACT, that your source is entirely Jewish in nature, the fact that it criticises the UN on matter relating to the Jewish state is topical and I believe that since you labelled the source with the LINK TITLE anti-Semitism, I found it fair to point out exactly what your source is, its nature and highlight a bias, like the site does with the UN. W

Why is that the UN continues to ignore the ongoing genocide in Sudan and yet finds the time to continue to pass condemnations and resolutions against Israel? You blatantly ignore the inherent anti-israel bias in the UN.

The UN did not Ignore Sudan, like the Israel and Palestine conflict, it can do nothing, last time I checked, it was not anti-Semitic to be impotent. Get over yourself.

I would hazard a guess and say that you attended the recent so called "anti-hate" UN meeting and enjoyed listening to Ahmanutjob spew his rhetoric, huh?

No I wasn't. But given the content of you posts, I can see how you like to jump to conclusions.

The provocation was done by whom?

Ok. How far do we go back in this insane game of tit for tat between Israel and her neighbours. Crazy blood fudes. Justify war anyway you want. Either side. I'm going to call it either way.

Oh, I see you forgot to mention or condemn that breach. Another ironic moment, huh? Yeah, of course, let the anti-Israel PR campaign begin, courtesy of those who think like you: blaming one side while condemning the other side.

Forget what, why do I have to mention what you imagine I missed out. I was replying to YOUR post. There is no difference between the methods, reasons or PR bull# from either side. Israel is just another war mongering Arab state to me. How do you separate Iran, Israel, Iraq et al. You can't. Just war and violence, excuses and blame gaming.

See, another example of hypocrisy and one-sidedness. Don't forget to include yourself among those lackeys spouting rubbish, kkthx.

As this thread is ABOUT ISREAL, i have commented on topic, the UN report is about an incident where ISREAL bombed and killed, in a war i have clearly stated as sick. Please, leave your assumptions and hatred of any other opinion aside, and with them your deflection of the issues with your appeals and accusations of bias and anti-Semitism.

Please show me where i have linked a biased source, or shown support for Palestine or the UN or ignored the issues relating to Palestine in replying to YOUR post.
I am sorry that I didn't address my reply to YOUR post with a detailed critique of Hamas, Hezbollah or the IDF(or other terrorist networks in this insane war).

I am so sick of all you people who think you can justify death, destruction and attrocities.

The Thread is about the UN and ISREAL. Start one on Palestine. I will be there to call your B.S there too.





[edit on 6-5-2009 by atlasastro]

Originally posted by LiquidLight
Israel is out of control; they do what they want, when they want, and damn the consequences. It's as if they believe they have a divine right and anything they do is sanctioned by God. Ridiculous.

And if you don't like their ways then you're being an anti-semite.

reply to post by Seekerof

And the Palestinians do NOT?
What the heck do you describe or include in that phrase "use of deadly force"?! Is committing acts of terrorism included?

The only act of terrorism I see here, is Israel inflicting on the civilian population in Gaza. The latest weapons being tested on the elderly, women, children and babies.

What the western media don't show are the kind of injuries that the Palestinians are suffering, mostly fatal, or untreatable. Israel banned the media from entering Gaza in the hope that their atrocities might not be reported.

Fortunately, for the internet, it is no longer possible to carry out this kind of holocaust and keeping the world from knowing. Google "The Other Inconvenient Truth" and see for yourself the carnage that these new weapons are wreaking on the defenseless population. Or, maybe you don't have the stomach for it. It is not for the faint hearted.

I believe war crimes and the attempted act of genocide are being carried out there, whilst the western world, particularly the US and UK pretends nothing is happening.

Before you start on your tirade about the rockets being fired onto Israel by Hamas, let me remind you they are fighting against an occupation force. They are entitled to do that. They are freedom fighters - and brave ones at that, fighting against the lop sided might of Israel that is armed to the teeth with US state of the art weaponry.

What would you do if Israel was occupied by Hamas? Roll over and have your stomach tickled?

It never fails to amaze me at the sheer arrogance and injustice that Israel can be equipped with the latest of US weapons and at the same time bemoans the fact that the trickle of arms that gets through to the Palestinians. They seem to ignore all international laws when they choose to destroy arm shipments in neighboring countries or international waters.

It is OK when the US is sending billions of dollars worth of containers loads of the latest weapons to be used on one of the world's most impoverished country, while at the same time, the Palestinians are not even entitled to any form of arms to defend themselves.

If you have even the slightest of conscience, you have to admit the monumental inequity that is occurring there.

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So if Palestinians would get jets and tanks - there would be peace??? They attack Israel with this trickle of weapons. You think that if they will start using tanks and jets, Israel would react with less force and less Palestinian civilians would die?
Fighting occupation is an excuse, they fire rockets at Israeli territory, one that was Israeli UN partition plan. Hamas does not recognize state of Israel. So it is a war to remove Israel. Plain and simple.
And as for attempted genocide - compare how many Palestinian Arabs lived in what became Israel and was supposed to become Palestine (if not the war that was declared by Arab coalition) in 1948 and how many live now. With hundreds of thousands refugees, numbers still massively grew. And where are Palestinian Jews that lived for example in Gaza or in Ramallah before 1948?