Stunning UFO filmed by Russian Farmer

Originally posted by bl4ke360
When are these fools ever going to learn how to steady a camera? Seriously there should be a stickied thread on this in the ufo forum. There's no excuse, even if you are outside all you need is a stationary object (the ground), sit on your ass and steady the camera between your knees. There's dozens of ways for near-perfecting camera steadiness without the use of any equipment. This amateur camerwork BS needs to stop.

I will agree with you 100%, as im sure everyone and i mean everyone knows how to take a photo. Lets be honest we all have taken a photo of our loved ones and it does not require you to go to some advanced film school. That being said, its either a 2 year old or another fake since the quality is so damn low it makes me like feel i am back in the stone age cave drawing an astronaut.

[edit on 4-5-2009 by tristar]

Originally posted by bl4ke360
reply to post by sticky

 

So he has a brick wall in front of him and yet he doesn't think to steady his camera ON TOP OF IT?


[edit on 5/4/2009 by bl4ke360]

Sure as long as you can tell us how high that wall is. Then I'll tell you why he didn't sit indian style, light a bonfire and shoot a signal flare at whatever he saw.

Eh I dunno. It says he'sa Russian Farmer. If that is to beleived then you show me a rural Farmer that knows proper camera technique.

I'm a filmmaker and if i saw a really big bright light I'dbe shaky with a cell cam too...

Originally posted by sticky
It is crazy to think anyone with a genuine experience would run right after the craft trying to get closeup shots.

I believe that there is many people around here that would not hesitate.

I know I would not...

I have no fear of death or unknown, what they gonna do ???

I know that I suck with cameras but would sure try and get a picture or video, it would likely look very much like that I can imagine my hands would be shaking like crazy.

Looks pretty good to me, but more info would be great. I can't imagine there is much air traffic in that remote locale.

reply to post by redhead57


Trying to get info on flights within Russian airspace is like trying to get blood out of stone, they have more black projects on a daily basis that it makes the black color seem white.

Originally posted by 5thElement

Originally posted by sticky
It is crazy to think anyone with a genuine experience would run right after the craft trying to get closeup shots.

I believe that there is many people around here that would not hesitate.

I know I would not...

I have no fear of death or unknown, what they gonna do ???

Maybe some ATS'ers might go chasing after it, but put yourself into the situation and I doubt you walk the walk.

reply to post by sticky


Relating running up and shooting closeup shots and shooting signal flares to a better suggestion for camera steadying, which by the way wouldn't take longer than a couple seconds, makes no sense what so ever. If people have time to get out their phones and camcorders etc, then they would certainly have time ensuring their video recording doesn't go to waste by failing to do such a simple thing as steadying a camera.

Thats a really subjective arguement. Maybe they would maybe they wouldnt. This "farmer" didnt... Thats that.

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The guy was steady-he was trying to photograph the context of the sighting to give it extra credibility.

Originally posted by stewartw2
The guy was steady-he was trying to photograph the context of the sighting to give it extra credibility.

And you know this... how?

I'm all for this being the real deal - but let's not get carried away. We've got sparse, blurry, shaky footage and a supposed date and that's it.

I'm sure if this is genuine then whoever shot it will come forward with more information.

-m0r

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I think you pegged this video pretty well Stewart -- good points all. This seems like a pretty decent video to me. The only thing that puts me off a bit is the bumpiness of the object; makes me wonder if there were a sharp still of it, we'd see a cluster of mylar balloons.

I can easily see how one could "lose" the object in the frame of a cell phone, and zoom out and then back in to find it. I would do the same if I were stuck with only my cell phone camera. I think I would've rested against the brick wall as a means of steadying the camera.

One thing that's fairly interesting to me is that we can hear there is a fair breeze blowing -- at least at the elevation of the person taking the video -- and yet the object doesn't seem to rock as I would think a tethered object would.

I call it interesting, yet inconclusive, but thank the OP for sharing it with us. I doubt I'd have seen it otherwise.

Cheers

It to me looks FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He filmed a photograph.

GIVE AWAY!!!! _________________the lens flare on the image never changes. Lens flare is on a lens, which means the lens flare should change as the angle of the lens changes.

FAKE FAKE FAKE

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Thanks-I agree with any UFO vid the odds of it being fake are greater than the odds of it being real....but the farmers filming of the ground was a rather smart and helpful way of showing us how damn bright the thing was and with a history of farmers seeing stuff over their fields and not many having cameras on them at the time...this JUST MIGHT be the real deal.

[edit on 4-5-2009 by stewartw2]

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Interesting-this possibility should be analysed further-putting aside lens flare-is the scenery too static??

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If its not a fake i can think of a couple of reasons why the footage is as it is...

Most people never use the video capture on their phones. They know they can access it through the menu but, probably, never actually ever think of using it... So when they finally do they are often unfamiliar with the controls and are liable to keep looking for different menu settings. The moment they do this, in this case looking for a zoom control?, they have a habit lowering the phone to be able to read the menu more easily..

Then it's.. oh crap i might miss the object...quick pan back...now wheres the zoom?? .. oh damn I've wandered off target again.. oh yes... right can't find zoom control take pictures of object and forget it... etc etc.. you catch my drift, I am sure...

Secondly and it's an unbelievably common thing that people never take into consideration is that. Many many people who wear spectacles for a specific purpose don;t wear them all the time. Given something like this happening and less than perfect eyesight, most people , in the heat of the moment, would just shoot the footage without even thinking till afterwards... damn i didn't have my glasses on..

You'd be amazed how many people got through much of their life, never fully aware they even have a problem with their eyesight.. If objects at a distance look rather fuzzy to you anyway, you are hardly likely to notice that there is anything wrong with your footage if thats what you are seeing anyway?

Now, that might not be relevant in this case, but it is something that many people singularly fail to take into consideration when they descend on people's phone cam footage..

[edit on 4-5-2009 by FireMoon]

First off, I think you already made a post about this same video. I may be wrong but the link seems to be the same. Your other thread

Secondly - I don't trust anything from all news web . com . They've proven only one thing -- they are totally untrustworthy.

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You sure put a lot of research into this post-well done! Or is Russia (hint: worlds largest nation by land mass) so small that only one UFO story could possibly happen there. So if All News Web said that Barack Obama was the President of the US you would automatically disbelieve that-or if they noted that the world was round-you would proceed to think it flat? Thats the thing with fashion-followers, its real if some suited guy on CNN or Angelina Jolie says it is. Perhaps you should get a mind of your own and ignore the messenger and merely analyse the film.

[edit on 4-5-2009 by stewartw2]

Originally posted by robwerden
It to me looks FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He filmed a photograph.

GIVE AWAY!!!! _________________the lens flare on the image never changes. Lens flare is on a lens, which means the lens flare should change as the angle of the lens changes.

FAKE FAKE FAKE

Not so sure about that. In fact, after watching this frame by frame, I have to disagree.

1) First of all, the "lens flare" may not be a lens flare at all. It appears to me to be an artifact of the propulsion. And I say that because if this was a meteor, and moving in a direction let's say from left to right, the front leading edge (on the right) doesn't look consistent with the typical rounded shape of leading edges that we usually see. This has a more pointed shape.

2) The "lens flare" on both sides does indeed change shapes slightly. Freeze frame it and go frame by frame to see it. And so does the fireball part in the middle. It changes shapes.

3) There is a brick wall on the left of picture that appears a couple of times. And it's pretty in focus, lending credibility to the video.

4) The audio is consistent with wind noises hitting a camera mic. But the lack of other ambient sounds is suspect. Given the big open field setting and the wind noise, it is possible though...

Flag from me. I thought it was cool, and unique.

Just my .02

reply to post by stewartw2

You sure put a lot of research into this post-well done!

Not really.
And that about sums up the amount of energy I'm willing to expend fisking this thread.