Israel destruction in 14 days?????

reply to post by mmiichael


Not at all. Iran is pushing hard for a war with Israel, they want to wipe them off the map, no doubt about it. If they could get away with it they would destroy Israel tomorrow.

I think that they are trying to bait Israel into attacking them so that they can respond.

Originally posted by Ace High

Not at all. Iran is pushing hard for a war with Israel, they want to wipe them off the map, no doubt about it. If they could get away with it they would destroy Israel tomorrow.

I think that they are trying to bait Israel into attacking them so that they can respond.

Weirdly enough, I don't think Iran really wants an outright war with Israel.

They just end up with a bombed out strip of desert and hundreds of billions in reparations.

But Iran feels their stance rallies the rest of the Muslim world. They gain points with the Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt, for example.

It's all about Iranian dominance in the region. They really want to see the Saudi Royal family toppled. That's their undeclared enemy. But a threat in that direction will bring the Americans and British in for the kill.

So Iran deflects from their true ntent with these convoluted statements like

"I think ..well, yunno ... maybe ... just maybe .... the Zionist entity is sorta like a bug that needs to be crushed."


Mike

Originally posted by mmiichael

But Iran feels their stance rallies the rest of the Muslim world. They gain points with the Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt, for example.

It's all about Iranian dominance in the region. They really want to see the Saudi Royal family toppled. That's their undeclared enemy. But a threat in that direction will bring the Americans and British in for the kill.

I agree that they are working for "street cred" in the Islamic/Arabic world. I think they may be overplaying their position a la Hussein did in Iraq. It is a dangerous game they are playing for Iran and the rest of the world.

Their dominance is in serious jeopardy with the US in both Iraq and Afghanistan and a nuclear armed Israel.

I certainly hope that the moderate voices in Iran, Israel, and the US win the day.

Originally posted by Ace High

Originally posted by mmiichael

But Iran feels their stance rallies the rest of the Muslim world. They gain points with the Islamic Brotherhood in Egypt, for example.

It's all about Iranian dominance in the region. They really want to see the Saudi Royal family toppled. That's their undeclared enemy. But a threat in that direction will bring the Americans and British in for the kill.

I agree that they are working for "street cred" in the Islamic/Arabic world. I think they may be overplaying their position a la Hussein did in Iraq. It is a dangerous game they are playing for Iran and the rest of the world.

Their dominance is in serious jeopardy with the US in both Iraq and Afghanistan and a nuclear armed Israel.

I certainly hope that the moderate voices in Iran, Israel, and the US win the day.

I agree with you as well.

They are scared witless with US forces on two sides.

The smart thing would be to say little and try to out psych their opponents.

But Iran acts so damned insecure. Trying to look tough, impress their Muslim audience, shake up Israel and the US.

Little insider news, but still to be confirmed

- they have a parallel nuclear program hidden away. They're hoping Israel will bomb the surface one. So they can cry foul, get Muslim support as victims of the Big Bad Zionist Regime.

Good plan, but Israel and the US are on to it.

One feels sorry for the Iranian people with the goons they have for leaders.

Time for another revolution.


Mike

Originally posted by mmiichael

One feels sorry for the Iranian people with the goons they have for leaders.

I agree with you there. I think that the majority of the citizens within Iran are more moderate than most think.

Originally posted by Ace High

I think that the majority of the citizens within Iran are more moderate than most think.

As a national entity Iran has painted itself into a corner. A 30 year failing Islamic Revolution. They have enough cash from oil revenues but the culture and industry stagnate. The oil infrastucture needs massive capital infusions for modernization.

Millions with brain power, business acumen and resources fled the country. The largely youthful population are not onboard for religious or imperialistic wars. But the likes of Syria, North Korea, Hamas, Hezbollah are happy to take the money.

We see from Mr A provocative sabre-rattling. Scary thing is he believes what he says. Even the Imams are uncomfortable. Iraq showed them the Americans are capable of invading when they feel the need.

Big question is will the boxed in regime go too far and do something that amounts to suicide.


Mike

Those following this thread might want to check out this newest posting.
Could this stir (or goad) Israel into making a preemptive strike?

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May 14th is today. ISRAEL STILL EXISTS!!!

Iran will squash the Evil Zionist Entity like a bug (translated from Farsi)

They have said so.

Viva la Islamic Revolucion


Mike

reply to post by Zaydie


These missiles on the Gulf are to compel Western nations to put pressure on Israel to not start anything.

The implied threat is that if we are attacked by Israel, we'll shut down the Persian Gulf and all the oil that must transit through there.

But this does not directly affect any decision Israel will make.

Indirectly, it's pressure on Israel so not attack.

Like that's ever mattered to Israel. . .

The Israelis, stoically cool headed, may be playing a head game with Iran. They know the paranoid psyche they're dealing with all too well.

The biggest trauma they can induce without endangering lives is to look as if they're poised to attack any minute - and then do nothing.

Prolonged uncertainty is the worst.

Just before his big re-election, everyone, and I mean everyone, would love to see Mr A crack up.

He had a nervous breakdown late last year - glossed over by the press.

Larjani is being groomed as the Western interface. At least he's sane.


Mike

You know, Iranians are a peace loving people, according to media reports I've seen. The vast majority love the US. I think the problem is Israel. They walk around with a chip on their shoulder and cause trouble. I was watching the 700 Club many years ago. They were in Jerusalem in the Islamic quarter. A parade of noisy Jews was causing a big ruckus in the street. The 700 Club reporter was asking the nearest person what was happening. He replied that the Jews come over to their quarter to cause trouble and agitate them so that the press will make the Jews look good. He said that the Jews needed a permit to do the parade, just like he would need in the Jewish quarter, but they don't get one and they cause trouble. They were egging the people on in that quarter to cause trouble. The Jews know we support them, and they can do pretty much what they want to the Islamic and Palestinian peoples.

Originally posted by Jim Scott
You know, Iranians are a peace loving people, according to media reports I've seen. The vast majority love the US. I think the problem is Israel. They walk around with a chip on their shoulder and cause trouble. I was watching the 700 Club many years ago. They were in Jerusalem in the Islamic quarter. A parade of noisy Jews was causing a big ruckus in the street. The 700 Club reporter was asking the nearest person what was happening. He replied that the Jews come over to their quarter to cause trouble and agitate them so that the press will make the Jews look good. He said that the Jews needed a permit to do the parade, just like he would need in the Jewish quarter, but they don't get one and they cause trouble. They were egging the people on in that quarter to cause trouble. The Jews know we support them, and they can do pretty much what they want to the Islamic and Palestinian peoples.

This is just anecdotal and a bit foolish to say represents anything, I hate to say.

Israel and Iran had a long history of supporting each other even in recent wars. The Jewish community in Iran was the most integrated and respected in the Middle East.

Iranian immigrant friends tell me under wraps Israel and Iranians still conduct business amicably and sorely miss the days before the Islamic Revolution. Particularly in a region dominated by corrupt Arab regimes, Iranians and Jews have always felt a special kinship.

The Ayatollah Khoumeni, whose father incidentally was British, imposed a strict inflexible fundamentalist template on Iran. He believed the country's mission is to spearhead a Shiite Muslim transformation of the world.

Referring back to the Koran, with it's highlighted battles with the Jews of the 8th Century, the interpretation has been they must begin their holy mission with the elimination of the new Jewish state in their midst. Few Iranians feel in line with this imposed calling.

The much maligned Shah regime, in hindsight, was an era of peace, prosperity, and personal freedom. For those who remember, the current era feels like a cultural and intellectual Dark Age.

No one beyond the mullahs and the delusional Mr A see much achieved in the destruction of the state of Israel.

The Iranians are fine people. Very bad luck as far as leadership goes.


Mike

reply to post by mmiichael


That is the story I have gotten from many Iranians I have gotten to know. Even further, that the Ayatollah we put into power because the Shah was becoming too successful. I could believe this.


So we now have two more days until the destruction of Israel. Doesn't look like it is going to happen.

Originally posted by poet1b

T Even further, that the Ayatollah we put into power because the Shah was becoming too successful. I could believe this.

I agree with the assessment of the Iranian people but you are wrong as to how the Ayatollah came to power. The last thing the US wanted was a fundamentalist govt taking control in Iran.

Ok, it is well past the 14th and nothing happened.

The original post was made with question marks as It was a question and not a statement of this will happen.

Either way, it did not happen and IMO, we are all better off for it not happening.

Why i said Nuke Iran is because:
They have mistreated people, slaughter followers of Judaism, Baha'i and Christianity just for following GOD in the wrong way.

There burning our flags for being a western nation, all countries in the world have made mistakes. So why hate the west when all countries have made mistakes. So were a little bias when it comes to Politics? Well Bias compared to Extremism is like an Angle to the Devil.

They hate Israel just because they reclaimed their land. If their people lost their home, and their home was taken over by another people what would you do? What would Israel do? See any comparison? Look! See!?

Iran's new regime is an Totalitarian Theocracy that will kill you for worshiping God in the wrong way, Hate you for making mistakes & being in the west and Saying Israel is evil because they became organized and reclaimed their home.

See my point of veiw now? 4 words come out of my mouth when i hear Iran. Theocratic Totalitarian Extremist Dictatorship. We need to stop them before they final become more financially funded to build WMD's To wipe out the west for "Worshiping God in the wrong way" and "For making many mistakes". If you let people be themselves then... maybe.... maybe, i'd consider not demanding you to be nuked. You've made mistakes, all religions have a different point of view. LEARN You Theocratic Totalitarian Extremists.
(Therocratic governments make way extremism in that religion, Denomination or Religious Belief)

reply to post by 5seawarrior5


Nuke Iran? Are you serious, a preemptive nuclear strike? C'mon.

I could understand if you were arguing for taking out there nuclear facilities and a few major military bases. Of course, I don't even think that is the correct course of action.

Another thing to remember, is that before GW, while Clinton was still in power, it was beginning to look like the U.S. and Iran would start getting along, and start coming to some agreements, and the same was true with N. Korea, which was looking very much like they would like to come out of the cold. Then when GW got into office, he started rattling sabers and looking for a fight with his ridiculous axis of evil speech. Now with Obama in office, we might start to see some normalization of relations again. Although the world has will be a bit nervous next time the U.S. presidential elections come around, afraid we will elect another GW. Lets face it, the last eight years have been one big nightmare, and have done permanent damage to the image of the U.S..

Originally posted by dooper
The thing is, when you review those victories against multiple coalitions, each time the Israelis surprised their opponents, or when attacked suddenly, Israel adapted so swiftly that they quickly placed their enemies on what Sherman termed, the horns of dilemma.

Israel cannot stand. Islam cannot allow it. So they will continue to come. If not Arab Muslims, then it will be Persian Muslims.

Besides, Iran is feeling its oats, it's ruled by the Mullah's, and it's President has a Napoleanic complex, while emulating the grand delusions of Hitler.

I get the distinct impression that Israelis feel once again at home.

And I don't see any inclination to leave.

By choice, or by force.

Then there is the fact that Iran is being systematically surrounded, with Pakistan being perhaps the last puzzle piece to what is an obvious regional takeover. Now I wonder what the USA would do in such a situation? Invade Cuba perhaps? Sure, Israel is easily the strongest entity in the region. Not too hard to do with USA funds, technology, military might and global clout on your side. Israel should feel at home. They’ve got American GI’s sitting where Israel’s biggest threat used to be, and in between them and their current biggest threat. Israel is certainly the tail (or little horn?) that wags the USA dog.

What I can’t help but wonder is how long China and Russia will sit idly by while Israel puppeteers the USA military through it’s last few years as the worlds lone superpower.

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As to the OP, I do indeed believe that Israel will be attacked again, but I have serious doubts that it will happen so soon. Just the incessant clatter of the propaganda mill IMO.