For All You Hypochondriacs With "Flu" Like Symptoms

Please calm down and call Telecare or visit the hospital.

I mean really, is there truly a need for these "OMG I HAVE THE FLU", or "Who Is Feeling Poorly So We May Be Scared Together" threads?

This whole thing is being blown out of proportion. Mind you we do need to be cautious and watch this develop very closely.

There is no need to panic or further the fear mongering behind spoon fed to the masses by the MSM over this issue.

Simply be careful, and if you feel like poo, well get a check up.

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~Keeper

[edit on 5/2/2009 by tothetenthpower]

Mod edit: Fixed spelling in title.

[edit on 5/2/09 by FredT]

Well said. So, a little star for you my friend.

It is really amazing what power media has. One article and the world goes nuts.

Now, everyone with a running nose freaks out and claims to have the swine flu! Ha!

There are even threads out there that think it's the end of the world and by Christmas everyone around is dead. What a joke!

Let me tell you this: The end of the world almost never comes!

Really, I havent seen a single of those threads.

But as long as everyone thinks the world is ending, why not go out for some panic-sex. (Sorry plucky had to steal it at least once.)

reply to post by Republican08


Every single thread here deals with the horror and panic concerning the swine flu....

haven't read any or understood any?

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To Swine Flu Threads..!

reply to post by Republican08


That was a good one, I appreciate the humour, however wouln't it be a bit too brief? .

~Keeper

All the hype is about this.

I guess you guys have heard about Problem-Reaction-Solution

The problem is known, the reaction can be seen on the majority of ATS threads, here the solution:

Preparing America for Mandatory Vaccination

Time Magazine’s coverage of the swine flu scare has a noticeable subplot - preparing Americans for draconian measures to combat a future pandemic as well as forcing them to accept the idea of mandatory vaccinations.

In an article entitled How to Deal with Swine Flu: Heeding the Mistakes of 1976, the piece discusses how dozens died and hundreds were injured from vaccines as a result of the 1976 swine flu fiasco, when the Ford administration attempted to use the infection of soldiers at Fort Dix as a pretext for a mass vaccination of the entire country.

Despite acknowledging that the 1976 farce was an example of “how not to handle a flu outbreak,” the article still introduces the notion that officials “may soon have to consider whether to institute draconian measures to combat the disease.”

Later we discover exactly what this will entail, namely “when to institute mass vaccination programs,” according to Howard Markel, director of the Center for the History of Medicine at the University of Michigan and a historical consultant to the CDC on flu pandemics.

Markel notes that the less politically combustible situation in America today compared to the post-Watergate era of Ford would make such draconian measures more achievable.

“Even so, he says, citizens still need to trust that the government is working for the greater good,” adds the article. “The American public has to be forgiving and patient and do [their] part too,” according to Markel.

Americans would indeed have to be very trustworthy and ultimately forgiving in taking a vaccine by government decree manufactured by a company that was been caught red-handed contaminating their vaccines with far deadlier viruses than swine flu.

As we reported yesterday, Baxter International confirmed over the weekend that it is working with the World Health Organization on a potential vaccine to curb the deadly swine flu virus that is blamed for scores of deaths in Mexico and has emerged as a threat in the U.S., reports the Chicago Tribune.

As reported by multiple sources last month, including the Times of India, vaccines contaminated with deadly live H5N1 avian flu virus were distributed to 18 countries last December by a lab at an Austrian branch of Baxter.

Since the probability of mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible, this leaves no other explanation than that the contamination was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne.

These are the people we are supposed to “trust” and “forgive” according to Time Magazine and Markel when the federal government breaks down our door, guns drawn and dripping needle in hand.

[edit on 2-5-2009 by thegreatobserver]

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Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Centre for Research on Globalization. The contents of this article are of sole responsibility of the author(s). The Centre for Research on Globalization will not be responsible or liable for any inaccurate or incorrect statements contained in this article.

This is from your source, meaning that piece was just somebody's opinion, I'd like to see some real facts not just what Time is trying to do.

I am sure they wouln't be using just the Time piece to push a nationalist agenda to get everybody inoculated.

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower


It's an opinion....however, there already exists mandatory vaccination in the US for all kinds of other things (teachers, school kids, health care professionals, etc.). That would just add to the pile and isn't that far fetched.

By the way, a disclaimer serves a legal purpose and is for protection of the author. And sometimes the closer you are to the truth the more likely it is that you get sued.


[edit on 2-5-2009 by thegreatobserver]

reply to post by thegreatobserver


Well I could certainly agree that it's a plausible explanation, however it does seem like a bit of overkill doesn't it?

Either way, your point has merit, but I think most of us here on ATS have a way of seeing through the propaganda that's delivered on a day to day basis.

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower


No it wouldn't be too brief, my city is panicked to near death! If the pick up line "The world is ending, but hey I got a hotel". Doesn't work, just pull up some out of your 'special book'.

I just haven't read any (TGObserver) I just found a bunch of them though. Anything with swine flu I try to ignore, except for this since it mentioned hypochrondia!

It may not be every city, but i've seen countless numbers of people in stores restaurants, consistently chatting about swine flu, and wondering if that person who just coughed gave it to them.

My town is like the South Park town, just a bunch of idiots! You'd think we were hit with the black plague!

reply to post by Republican08


God aren't you the luckiest person in the world. I wish I lived with HALF the people in South Park, my life would be so entertaining.

~Keeper

reply to post by tothetenthpower

How dare you!!!

What about:
" a stitch in time saves nine"

" an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

" if you are going to panic, you might as well panic early"

I say you're wrong. I say it is for real and will come in waves. This is just the first wave. It seems like a repeat of the 1918 Spanish flu.

reply to post by son of PC


Even if this was as big as people think it's going to get, what will panic do?

What will that needless emotion do to help anything that will go on? NOTHING.

Panic will simply compound the problem and make it harder to deal with.

~Keeper

I coughed today! And my dad coughed too! Do we have the flu?!

reply to post by Miraj


I certainly hope so, perhaps it will prevent your kind from posting idiotic and useless things on these boards. .

But then again you should see a doctor just to make sure, I don't condone death or anything.

~Keeper

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by son of PC

 

Even if this was as big as people think it's going to get, what will panic do?

What will that needless emotion do to help anything that will go on? NOTHING.

Panic will simply compound the problem and make it harder to deal with.

~Keeper

When people just see a few bodies piled up like cord wood even the bravest among them will cry out.
I prayed, I asked that the future be revealed. In my mind I heard "it's a wave" . I thought maybe a wave from the center of the galaxy, like a gamma burst.

Tsunami?

Now I feel that "It's a wave" means this disease and the way it will come back again.

reply to post by son of PC


You don't need to hear voices in your head to know it's going to come in waves, that's what all virus' do regardless.

It's summer, so were obviously not seeing the worst of it, wait till Autumn when people are getting the general influenza, then it will turn nasty and people can panic all they want.

Worry and precaution is a great thing, and we should be doing it, however getting our panties all in a bunch is certainly not helping.

And why all the doom and gloom? You want some population reduction? It's not a bad idea, actually it's kind needed.

~Keeper

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Please calm down and call Telecare or visit the hospital.

I mean really, is there truly a need for these "OMG I HAVE THE FLU", or "Who Is Feeling Poorly So We May Be Scared Together" threads?

This whole thing is being blown out of proportion. Mind you we do need to be cautious and watch this develop very closely.

There is no need to panic or further the fear mongering behind spoon fed to the masses by the MSM over this issue.

Simply be careful, and if you feel like poo, well get a check up.

Edit Thread Title: Spelling.

~Keeper

[edit on 5/2/2009 by tothetenthpower]

Although I do agree with you on many levels, I must take issue with the idea that urging more caution than normal amounts to "Fear Mongering". I might be succumbing to a misunderstanding of what construes "Fear Mongering" in your mind, and if I am, please clarify so that I understand what you consider such to be.

To myself, "Fear Mongering" in this particular instance would be the hypochondriac aspect, and/or the idea that we must toss infected persons into sealed "bubbles". Quarantining individuals so as to prevent widespread infection however is a good idea, as is the extra caution currently being urged, simply due to the fact that even if this current strain is no more potent than the seasonal variation, there does exist an exponentially increased risk for complications and death due to a lack of any workable Vaccine.

reply to post by TheAgentNineteen


I certainly agree with your response on quarantine. It is the best option so long as it's done within the confines of the law and were not hurting individuals.

Fear mongering to me is when people sensationalize something that is a big issue such as this Flu, but make it out to be something of very deadly nature that everybody must rush to fix.

This is simply not the case, yes as I said, precaution is very needed and we must be vigilant. But I was mostly referring to the people here on ATS who were making threads about their own symptoms and asking for advice.

~Keeper