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Pigs can be infected with both human and avian influenza viruses in addition to swine influenza viruses. Infected pigs get symptoms similar to humans, such as cough, fever, and runny nose. Because pigs are susceptible to avian, human and swine influenza viruses, they potentially may be infected with influenza viruses from different species (e.g., ducks and humans) at the same time.[citation needed] If this happens, it is possible for the genes of these viruses to mix and create a new virus.
For example, if a pig were infected with a human influenza virus and an avian influenza virus at the same time, an antigenic shift could occur, producing a new virus that had most of the genes from the human virus, but a hemagglutinin or neuraminidase from the avian virus. The resulting new virus would likely be able to infect humans and spread from person to person, but it would have surface proteins (hemagglutinin and/or neuraminidase) not previously seen in influenza viruses that infect humans, and therefore to which most people have little or no immune protection. If this new virus causes illness in people and can be transmitted easily from person to person, an influenza pandemic can occur
Originally posted by Wehali
There are countless everyday viruses that kill millions of people every year,
and those don't get called a pandemic. Now some virus comes and kills 150
people, and suddenly it gets called a conspiracy pandemic to depopulate the
world?
I think the only reason governments are calling it "emergency", is to direct
people's attentions away from what really matters.. the collapsing economy.
It COULD be man made, but then I don't think the government has been the
one that created it. It'll be most likely some group of corporate pharmas, in
a scheme to make money selling vaccines that are just as lethal as the virus,
because they used the most cheap and untested ingredients they could find.
[edit on (30/4/09) by Wehali]
According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a pandemic can start when three conditions have been met:[1]
Emergence of a disease new to a population.
Agents infect humans, causing serious illness.
Agents spread easily and sustainably among humans.
A disease or condition is not a pandemic merely because it is widespread or kills many people; it must also be infectious. For instance, cancer is responsible for many deaths but is not considered a pandemic, because the disease is not infectious or contagious.
Originally posted by Wehali
It COULD be man made, but then I don't think the government has been the
one that created it. It'll be most likely some group of corporate pharmas, in
a scheme to make money selling vaccines that are just as lethal as the virus,
because they used the most cheap and untested ingredients they could find.
Originally posted by watchtheashes
reply to post by Wehali
When does money and commerce become more important than human lives? It doesn't really matter if it is man made or not, but come on!
Originally posted by watchtheashes
When does money and commerce become more important than human lives?
Originally posted by 27jd
You haven't provided any proof this isn't manmade. How would a flu have the DNA of bird, swine, and human flu, yet there have been no sick pigs OR birds? They tested every pig at the farm near "patient zero" and not one had the swine flu. That doesn't make you wonder even a little? No sick pigs or birds.
Where did This Mysterious New Animal-Human Flu Strain Come From?
Alongside the fear-mongering headlines, I've also seen increasing numbers of reports questioning the true nature of this virus. And rightfully so.
Could a mixed animal-human mutant like this occur naturally? And if not, who made it, and how was it released?
Not one to dabble too deep in conspiracy theories, I don't have to strain very hard to find actual facts to support the notion that this may not be a natural mutation, and that those who stand to gain have the wherewithal to pull off such a stunt.
Just last month I reported on the story that the American pharmaceutical company Baxter was under investigation for distributing the deadly avian flu virus to 18 different countries as part of a seasonal flu vaccine shipment. Czech reporters were probing to see if it may have been part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic; as such a "mistake" would be virtually impossible under the security protocols of that virus.
The H5N1 virus on its own is not very airborne. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which are more easily spread, the effect could be a potent, airborne, deadly, biological weapon. If this batch of live bird flu and seasonal flu viruses had reached the public, it could have resulted in dire consequences.
There is a name for this mixing of viruses; it's called "reassortment," and it is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created in the lab. Some scientists say the most recent global outbreak -- the 1977 Russian flu -- was started by a virus created and leaked from a laboratory.
Another example of the less sterling integrity of Big Pharma is the case of Bayer, who sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, even though they knew it was tainted with the AIDS virus.
So while it is morally unthinkable that a drug company would knowingly contaminate flu vaccines with a deadly flu virus such as the bird- or swine flu, it is certainly not impossible. It has already happened more than once.
articles.mercola.com...
Originally posted by Solomons
You do realise you are on a conspiracy site where people talk about how reptillians breed and discuss the galactic federations foreign policies towards earth? I agree with you it isn't a bio weapon...but you have been here long enough to know you will find just about every crazy theory(and people who agree) on this site..
antigenic shift
Antigenic shift is the process by which at least two different strains of a virus, (or different viruses), especially influenza, combine to form a new subtype having a mixture of the surface antigens of the two original strains. The term antigenic shift is more often applied specifically, (but is not limited) to the influenza literature, as it is the best known example (e.g. visna virus in sheep[1]). Antigenetic shift is a specific case of reassortment or viral shift that confers a phenotypic change.
Originally posted by tide88
One question for you though. What happens if this virus doesnt kill anymore then the regular flu does or disappears in a couple of week? Are you still suspicious If it was man made and they wanted to kill people off they sure would have tested it to make sure it would work. Right?
Originally posted by tide88
I more or less started this thread from the depopulation/enslave americans thread. I can see your point about the earnings from drug companies. I just dont see some NWO conspiracy here.