Texas Secedes??????

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Armchair warriors. I have traveled the world and with out a doubt Houston and Texas in general is one of the most racially and culturally diverse places on Earth.

The difference here is there is a culture of help your fellow man and take care of yourself rather than get spoiled and expect someone else like the government to take care of you.

So to those would pass judgment, if it comes down to it, good riddance, may you enjoy your slavery and dependency on others while I take care of myself, keep my guns, my money, and my freedom for myself as does my does my neighbor, thank you very much.

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Amen anonymous. While I myself don't have guns, I do have weapons in my home (knives and blunt weapons mostly) and I do plan on keeping them. Because I can't wait for the police to "come help" when it's already too late.

I have noticed that, at least here in Ga (another southern state) many cities here too have a tendency to try and stick together and tough it out, help each other rather than go cry to the govt. In my city I was surprised to see how many people get involved with their community and their govt. by contrast to when I was living in IL.

If Texas secedes, I'll be first on a bus there. But hopefully we can do it peacefully so you and I won't have to meet in a battlefield against the Federalists again.

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Indeed. I am all for the principles which this country was founded, but we have gone so far astray from those principles that most people wouldn't even know how to take care of themselves to maintain their individual freedoms.

I abhor the fact that the Government steals my money to imprison someone who decided to smoke marijuana. I abhor even more so than anyone, including the Government feels like that they have the right to tell someone else what they can put in their body.

Back on track, I do not think many people would even grasp these concepts...

Originally posted by truttseeker
So if Texas goes, then that means we lose, a lot of desert land. Gain money that we dont have to waste rebuilding whenever a hurricane hits, or a tornado rips through. We lose oil that we dont use for ourselves, thus is really only good for exports, and we lose one of the most porous borders in the union. hmm.

Peace out girl scouts.

Perhaps you should go back to school?

www.edupic.net...

Texas won't be seceding anytime soon, but we are laying the groundwork with bills such as HCR 50 affirming states rights under the 10th amendment.

We are prepared to do so if the need arises, but we would much rather work with other states a resolve this in another way.

As far as if Texas can make it on our own? Well lets see...

We have plenty of oil and processing plants to use it...
Do you like the F-35? ya we build it here... and we can keep it fueled up
We (Texas Instruments) created the transistor, and have plenty of semiconductor manufacturing facilities...
Multiple high quality Colleges...
Multiple high quality Medical Centers
And lots of industries are headquartered here, and with the elimation of a federal income tax, they won't leave, in fact more will come

We are more than capable of sustaining ourselves, hopefully things can be resolved differently, but if push comes to shove then we'll be more than prepared.

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Indeed. It astounds me how little people really know. They think that just because in the movies they depict Texans as ignorant hicks, that somehow that's how it is all over. Never bothering to realize how much industry Texas provides, not just in crude products like petroleum, but even science and technology. Yes, you heard me right, technology. I remember some years back seeing them run some kind of tech school competition to see who can develop cars with intelligent computer AI that can in essence drive themselves and yes, some of their tech schools have some real muscle when it comes to robotics to the point to where they have some japanese students go "damn" (I guess they want to catch up to the Japanese in technology, if not, beat them).

So I hate to break it to the ignorant liberals here hating on Texas, but they're not all religious gun toting hicks as portrayed in movies. Get a clue before making any wild accusations

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Xtexan, just make sure you guys save a spot for a Texan born-living in Ga. when it happens I'm not much of a tech savvy person, but I am a master control operator for a broadcasting company, so I might be able to help there

I know my father is already making plans to move should it ever come to that. His words "I liked Houston enough to where I would gladly move back if they secede" I don't know about my brothers, but I know I will follow him too.

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Hmm I also wonder if Texas secedes, would that have a huge impact on the rest of the USAs economy?

Obviously Texas is capable of supporting themselves.

Also don't worry guys, I live in New Mexico. Everyone thinks were abunch of dumb rednecks here to. Alot of people don't even know were part of America.

But how would America cope without the contributions of Texas' economy? That's a huge chunk of economy.

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Shouldn't be a problem, I'm sure we'll be looking to ramp up independent media outlets, since the US doesn't have any anymore, lol. Just be sure to bring your birth certificate, not sure how crossing the border will go after secession.

I'd say that the US would probably seal the border, but then again we all know how good the Fed is at safegaurding its borders.

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Anonymous, don't you find it interesting that with all that's going on. The monkey in chief (yes I said it. Liberals had no problem calling Bush a monkey, now I'm returning the favor so s*ck on that) claims to want to be the Abe Lincoln of our time and it seems that the southern states (as well as some northern ones) want to distance themselves from the fed. just as back then? Difference being of course that they distanced themselves completely from the fed. govt. through secession instead of the 10th and 9th amendments. Makes me wonder how this will play out and what similarities it will have to Lincoln's terms in office.

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It would have a HUGE impact on the US economy, last year (2008) the Texas GDP was $1.245 trillion... Source

I'm by no means an expert on the economy but losing that much would have to have an immediate effect on things. Not to mention Texas gives more to the Fed than we get back... LOTS of lost money.

Originally posted by Question
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Xtexan, just make sure you guys save a spot for a Texan born-living in Ga. when it happens

I'm not much of a tech savvy person, but I am a master control operator for a broadcasting company, so I might be able to help there

I know my father is already making plans to move should it ever come to that. His words "I liked Houston enough to where I would gladly move back if they secede" I don't know about my brothers, but I know I will follow him too.

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Always more room here in Houston for freedom lovers. =) Plenty of jobs here too.

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You brought up a good point there... There are plenty of jobs down here, which is surprising considering the state of the rest of the country.

I mean its not as good as it was a couple years ago, but we are no where near as bad as the rest of the country...

Exit stage Left ... Texas -- Or -- Bust ... I have requested Florida follow suit, and that might explain why Brother Bush was Governor here....
its really hard for a Floridian to bend to the ole enemy "Union" florida really never got over the civil war...

I imagine if Texas goes, New Mexico, and Louisiana might come along; maybe parts of Oklahoma too. I'm fairly sure Louisiana is still disgusted with the Feds, and New Mexico doesn't want to become part of California - Arizona (Mexico). Oklahoma can piss off.

For some reason, this next part was cut from my last post:

Hurricanes - The last hurricane that hit Galveston (and the one that hit the Rio Grande Valley just prior) . . . the relief effort was paid for by TEXAS. In fact, Texas had to fight with the feds to get the help that the feds promised. But that money was not needed that much. And then you consider how much Texas puts into the USA . . . it was more like they were giving us a little bit back, but we could have lived without it.

Remember Katrina? The relief mostly came from . . . TEXAS. The refugees . . . most of them went to TEXAS (and alot of them are still here).

All of this relief provided, and Texas is STILL one of the only states not in the red.

Texas is home to some of the poorest counties in the USA, and not in the red.

Texas is overwhelmed by illegals because of the feds not letting Texas deal with the border . . . and we are still not in the red.

Perhaps some other states (and the federal government itself) could learn a few things from Texas.

Texas has everything anyone could want. Beaches, deserts, mountains, forests, rolling plains, hill country, fertile valley's. Big cities, small towns, and everything in between. It has the tourists traps and the wide open ranges.

Texas has the 9th biggest economy in the world.

It is the top beef producer in the world, and is near the top in oil, fruits, cotton, and vegetables, among other things.

The whole state is self sustainable, as is most of the communities in Texas. It is also home to a very large amount of the armed forces personnel.

Are you sure you really want to lose Texas as a state, considering Texas is a major pillar supporting the oil industry, the agriculture industry, the technology industry, the armed forces, and most important . . . the USA?

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I love how the idea of secession brings out the 7 year old in adults

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I honestly hope Ga. follows suit as well... we might not have an actual right to secede in our constitution when we joined the union. But I'm sure that an amendment can be made to the Ga. Constitution to fix that. Besides, by that point, I'm sure Ga. really wouldn't give 2 sh*ts what the govt. thinks about us leaving to join Texas. In many respects, Ga. is like Texas' little sister, at least when it comes to attitudes and behaviors, and heck, our industry isn't half bad either (we might have to work on more tech. and science based jobs and schooling though).

When I moved down here, I had mentioned that one of the reasons why, was so that I could be with family, which was true. But another reason, was because I honestly see Ga. as a state with a lot of promise IF taken care of. I still hold on to that. I don't think in IL I would've been able to get my job in a broadcasting company as readily as I got mine here.

Texas is an important state in the fight for our country.

Secession is just hollow ploy to get Texans to feel important but not really do anything.

Same as "grass roots" Tea Party movements sending teabags.

I shamelessly plug my thread here:
Texas Property Taxes

I'm trying to give Texans something real they can do to better their situation.

If your Texan then you know property taxes are out of control. The system is corrupt and broken and victimizes it's citizens.

If your Texan you've probably heard of the Trans Texas Corridor (TTC), the superhighway project pushed through without voter approval trying to create the first section of a NAFTA superhighway. A massive toll way where Foreign Owners would make the money on property taken from the citizens of Texas.

How do those two subjects tie in together?
I'm not sure but I do know one thing
Texas Comptroller Susan Combs went to speak at the Spain Business Forum with the foreigners behind the project.
Comptroller Website News Release

The person in charge of Property taxes in Texas is in with the TTC it appears.

Texans fought and partially defeated the TTC but, they won't go away easy. Even now they plot behind the scenes.

An interesting note:
Confirmed Dirt Bag Senator Chris Dodd was also at that meeting.


We gotta fight but, we need real things to do.
That's what my organization is trying to do.
Fight Taxes Directly
Face to Face with those who impose taxes on us.

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You're starting to make me want to move there now even without the secession

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