Every phone call, email or website visit 'to be monitored'

Every phone call, email or website visit 'to be monitored'

www.telegraph.co.uk

The move has alarmed civil liberty campaigners, and the country's data protection watchdog last night warned the proposals would be "unacceptable". Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, will argue the powers are needed to target terrorists and serious criminals who are taking advantage of the increasing complex nature of communications to plot atrocities and crimes.

A consultation document on the plans, known in Whitehall as the Interception Modernisation Programme, is likely to put great emphasis on the threat facing Britain and warn the alternative to the powers would be a massive expansion of surveillance. But that will fuel concerns among critics that the Government is using a climate of fear to expand the surveillance state.

Information Commissioner Richard Thomas, the country's data watchdog, told the Daily Telegraph: "I have no problem with the targeted surveillance of terrorist suspects. "But a Government database of the records of everyone's communications – if that is to be proposed – is not likely to be acceptable to the British public. Remember that records – who? when? where? – can be highly intrusive even if no content is collected."

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[edit on 26-4-2009 by News And History]

The government doesn't care about our freedom. We must overcome them before they enslave our loved-ones.

They will never keep us from using all modes of communication. We must resist them, at all costs! Free your nation. Expose & get rid of those tyrants, who pretend to be our leaders & protectors!

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Over 300 million Americans, right?

Which 150 million are going to watch the other 150 million?


Maybe they can outsource the jobs to Mexico and India....

hmm our goverment sure is nosey

I thought so too.

It's stupid

reply to post by Desert Dawg


It's not that there will be half of the population watching the other half, but of course you already know this.

What are they gonna do if you are accessing a restricted site anyway? Stop you and tell on you?

No the big main problem is that everything will be logged and recorded for future reference.

There have always been terrorists and criminals.

There will always be terrorists and criminals.

We can't control that.



What we CAN control is whether or not we resort to fascism.


We've dealt with terrorists this far without turning ourselves into fascist nations.
We can continue to do so.


Be careful, the fascist wannabes are using terrorism as an excuse to gain total control... they'll use any excuse they get their hands on to take control over the population.




If it's security you want, step into a cage, I'll throw away the key for you.

If it's freedom you want, expect to face danger occasionally.

reply to post by News And History

Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, will argue the powers are needed to target terrorists and serious criminals who are taking advantage of the increasing complex nature of communications to plot atrocities and crimes.

As Noam Chomsky said with reference to 'terrorism': ''The easiest way to stop terrorism is to stop participating in it''! Of course, such participation is at the behest of the Western Governments and not it's peoples who, whilst largely ignorant, are relatively innocent.

Maybe I should send Jacqui the video of Chomsky discussing the said issue, 'Power and Terror' Source

She is one hive-minded Nazi (and I normally don't talk about anyone in that manner).

Now, where's that dam flame thrower.

This is no big surprise at all. It is the way things are going and likely have been going on anyways.

As we have seen in the US, fear of terror or security risks is just what they want it gives them all the reason they need to take away what little privacy we have anyways.

I used to think it was a joke that all of us on ats are under some watchful eye. I am not sure that it true, but it is far easier to believe now.

Welcome to the new world. Privacy is a thing of the past.

Any 'terrorist' that makes plans over the internet deserves to be caught. As said above a threat will always exist to Britain as long as Britain remains a threat to humanity.

Humanity has survived much worse and will survive this. As annoying as it will be to free communication, free communication will simply have to find freer ways to communicate. I am positive of this happening.

I hope this post has been logged.

There was a lot of talk about words that would get you flagged by the NSA and CIA going back at least to 2004...and by flagged that just means they collect data and most of it is analyzed by computers. Too many flags or patterns of activities and associations and you'll get closer scrutiny - possibly by a real government agents. I looked and naturally there was at least one thread on it here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

the list is quite funny. Copy and paste some of it here. Try it - it's fun though I'm sure the list from 2004 is a bit dated.

I've assumed I was being monitored by at least one of these agencies since I first got on the internet in 1998 (and I have good reason to think so and no reason to prove it to anyone) but it can be quite liberating in a strange way to just go ahead and assume it and can bring out your own personal bravado/bravada which is fun too. I guess I'm lucky I find internet porn boring as I'd hate to shame my mother someday.

It's not what I'd like in my world to be but that's what we got. Anyway, didn't your mother tell you never to print or write down anything you wouldn't want published on the front page of your local paper?


edited to correct grammar

[edit on 26-4-2009 by ChrisCrikey]

Originally posted by GobbledokTChipeater
reply to post by Desert Dawg

 

No the big main problem is that everything will be logged and recorded for future reference.

What's so bad about that?

Do you really think anyone cares that you visit Disney.com, read the news, or use google to search for information about how to change a tire?

... or maybe you're more worried about the child pornography you download, the terrorist organizations you are a part of, and the software you pirate?

Hmm.. do you honestly think the person doing the second group of activities deserves his privacy as much as the first?

If so, shame on you.

Should we also presume that every politician is crooked, on the fiddle, involved in a sex scandal, corrupt dealing, child pornography, vote-rigging, cash back-handers, and all other devious mischief just to cach the ones who are?

Hang on.....we do!

I guess it's time to close my online account with bloodthirstyammonappies.com and only phone my armourer from a payphone with a mouthful of mars bars.

And just WTH are they so afraid of??

Really. Just what in the hell are they looking for and what do THEY want?

reply to post by logician magician

Dude,

in your, second list, take out the child porn and replace it with conspiracy theories / info.
Do you believe those fashist governments, who want to take away our rights and privacy, who killed 3000 of THEIR OWN citizens on 9-11 realy care about our children and child porn?? NO, all they care for is to keep and maintain their power and control upon us, only that is what they worry about

Ko3

reply to post by News And History


They have never stopped monitoring our communications over the internet, cell or landline. They have did what they wanted to all along and this is retroactive stuff when it comes to spying on the population of the U.S. and the World.

Originally posted by kid_of_3NKi
reply to post by logician magician

 

Dude,

in your, second list, take out the child porn and replace it with conspiracy theories / info.
Do you believe those fashist governments, who want to take away our rights and privacy, who killed 3000 of THEIR OWN citizens on 9-11 realy care about our children and child porn?? NO, all they care for is to keep and maintain their power and control upon us, only that is what they worry about

Ko3

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the government could care less about unprovable conspiracy theories. They are NOT important. They are nothing more than rumors. ATS is a rumor mill.

How many people have been arrested for conspiracy theory?

How many have been arrested for child porn?

Now you can tell me, which one does the government think is more important?

I'm pretty sure everything has been monitored for quite some time, anyway...

Many agree with this statement: "Britain drops further into police state status with the monitoring of email, web visits, and phone calls." We must resist the tyrants, who want to rule over all of us. Deny them power.

Originally posted by logician magician

Originally posted by kid_of_3NKi
reply to post by logician magician

 

Dude,

in your, second list, take out the child porn and replace it with conspiracy theories / info.
Do you believe those fashist governments, who want to take away our rights and privacy, who killed 3000 of THEIR OWN citizens on 9-11 realy care about our children and child porn?? NO, all they care for is to keep and maintain their power and control upon us, only that is what they worry about

Ko3

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the government could care less about unprovable conspiracy theories. They are NOT important. They are nothing more than rumors. ATS is a rumor mill.

How many people have been arrested for conspiracy theory?

How many have been arrested for child porn?

Now you can tell me, which one does the government think is more important?

May i ask you whats your business on a conspiracy forum, if for you conspiracy theories are unprovable, NOT important, just rumors?

Ko3