Family alert to swine flu illness

Family alert to swine flu illness

news.bbc.co.uk

A businessman and his family have been told not to have contact with other people after he returned from Mexico and reported having flu-like symptoms.

Chris Clarke, of Stanwick, felt unwell on Saturday and contacted NHS Direct who told him to call his out-of-hours doctor service.

He said his family have now been issued with a vaccine and been told to stay away from other people as a precaution.

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This story stinks to high heaven....

Firstly, when did he get back from Mexico?
How have his wife and children suddenly come down with 'symptoms' if the incubation period is 3 to 5 days as spoken of in almost every related thread here on ATS and all over the internet and when he has only just started to feel unwell now?

If the passengers were warned on the flight back, then he must have only got home this weekend. His family cannot feel unwell so fast.. And the children? This virus is supposed to be affecting mostly the 25 to 45 age group...how old, or young, are his kids?

He states that he does not want to bring anything back, but clearly he has, according to this report.

So now he and his family have all been given a vaccine.. instant fix.

And check the little video.. supposed to be confined to his home, so why is the door on the left wide open?
And what is with all the close up shots of 'a man on a phone'?

There is something very wrong with this report and in my opinion this is scare mongering in order for the vaccines to be handed out on a silver platter so the drug companies can come up with some form of 'succesful' statistics when everything has blown over...for which the'll have made a tidy profit wether every one dies or not..

I'm sorry, but I do not buy this report.





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mmmhhhh they have a vacination for this already how interesting I smell a *** dont make this flu your reality.

I just had a thought...are they by any chance vaccinating people with the stuff that was meant for pigs? There isn't much of a chance that it will work then is there?

I don't think the report is meant to scare people, rather the opposite. They desperately need a succes story right now. They will want to show the people that they are on top of the problem and are able to cure it.

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And that is part of the problem with this story... They do not mention if the family actually have the same virus.. they don't even mention which vaccine was used..

This looks like it is a propoganda advert to gently introduce fear and make the masses believe that TPTB have it under control and that it is safe to turn to them for help.

I believe I read in one of the threads here on ATS about how the majority of those who died in the 1918 virus infection were those who had been vaccinated. I'm sure someone here knows which thread that is.

What no course of anti-biotics/virals? Vaccines are suppose to prevent not cure so why is he being given a vaccine if he's already sick? thats like putting a bandaid on a bullet hole. I agree the story reeks of fear mongering propoganda.

edit. my bad. it says his family have been vaccinated.. which still doesn't make sense anyway as they'd already be exposed and the vaccine is meant to be weeks away..

[edit on 26-4-2009 by riley]

Originally posted by Extralien
So now he and his family have all been given a vaccine.. instant fix.

There is no vaccine for this swine/avian/human flu hybrid. None.
And if someone isn't feeling well, it's the wrong time to give them a
vaccination anyways. It would be too late.

Way too many holes in this report.

Just makes you wonder exactly how many people buy into this.


When they say 'stay away from other people" is almost like a judge passing sentence.. You are unclean, a threat to society.. keep out of the way of others, make yourself afraid to approach anyone, even for help.

I think people used to lock themselves into their own homes when the black plague was around too...

Originally posted by FlyersFan
There is no vaccine for this swine/avian/human flu hybrid. None.

Exactly, so what Vaccine have they been given?

"Baxter International Inc. will work with the World Health Organization to develop a vaccine. Baxter has patented technology that allows the company to develop vaccines in a half the time it usually takes -- about 13 weeks instead of 26."
Report: /c9az2o


A report on Foxnews.com says:
"The incubation period for swine flu is 24-48 hours."
Report: /d2lmc5




[edit on 26/4/09 by spirit_horse]

The U.N. World Health Organisation and U.S. Centres for Disease Control and Prevention have been collecting samples of the new H1N1 swine flu virus to make a new vaccine in case it is needed. Skip related content

Following are some facts about influenza vaccines.

* The WHO and CDC prepare samples of virus to give to industrial makers.

* These samples must be grown in specially produced chicken eggs. The virus is then purified and made into vaccines, a process that takes months.

* At least 20 companies make flu vaccines including Sanofi Pasteur, Australia's CSL Ltd, GlaxoSmithKline Plc, Novartis AG, Baxter and nasal spray maker MedImmune, acquired by AstraZeneca Plc.

* Experts agree the current process for making vaccines is clumsy and outdated, but new and more efficient technologies are still a few years away.

* WHO and CDC experts are trying to decide if a new vaccine for the H1N1 swine flu strain is needed, or perhaps if a fourth element could be added to the seasonal flu vaccine mix for next September.

* The health agencies also had been considering adding some vaccines against H5N1 avian influenza, which occasionally infects people and is also considered a major pandemic threat.

* Tests show the H1N1 component of the current seasonal flu vaccine does not protect against the new strain.

uk.news.yahoo.com...

Here in is the current situation regarding any vaccines for this new strain.
So just what vaccine did this guys family have?

It sure as hell fire was not one designed for this new virus...

This is what I want to know.

If they vaccine is going to take 13 weeks to prepare.

But there are people being vaccinated....
WTH are they being vaccinated for?

I mean....are they just vaccinating with something "close" to this flu hoping that it'll confer some antibodies? What's the logic here?

I'm not antivaccination. I'm also not stupid, so I'd like to know what the thought process is behind giving people a needle for something that they don't even have a vaccine for?

Is it just to hope that it'll help? Is it to acclimatize people to taking the real vaccine when it comes?

Because I'm pretty sure that handing out a vaccine that doesn't work and won't work and can't work will only mean that people will NOT trust that the real vaccine with help when it is made and is ready to distribute. They'll just think of all the reports of people who took a vaccination and it didn't do anything. It'll just confuse people.

I'd suggest that if the TPTB don't want to add confusion, that they either explain their rational for giving it out or stop giving it out so as not to erode trust.

Just a day later from the report and the entire family are now doing fine...they do not have swine flu.. and they apparently had anti-virul drugs instead of tamiflu vaccine as reported earlier...

A businessman and his family who were quarantined in their home after returning from Mexico with flu-like symptoms have been given the all-clear.

On Saturday Chris Clarke, of Stanwick, Northamptonshire, felt unwell and contacted his doctor.

He and his family were issued with anti-viral drugs.

He has now been told tests showed he had not caught the new swine flu virus, believed to have killed a number of people in Mexico.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Isn't that nice.. it's almost a relief that we wont be hearing from Clarke and co again.. Nice way to get rid of a story, with a happy ending...

[edit on 27-4-2009 by Extralien]

As a story to create fear... it worked. I live about 5-10 minutes away from Stanwick, it was all anyobdy went on about at school today, teachers and students alike.

To the point of the teacher in our history lesson had the BBC website on the interactive whiteboard at the front of class, to keep live updates, until he saw the story saying the family didn't have Swine flu. People are very worried about this, personally, I am not overly worried.

Bird flu wasn't long ago, every time you saw a dead bird people were worried, but we never got anything...

Yeah, dont let it get to you..
They decided to do another very similar 'scare-monogoring-promote-tamiflu' topic earlier too;
I couldn't get out of bed
Read that and you'll statrt to see that not everything has anything to do with the topic.. but aimed at making you do something else... and that's get vaccinated with Tamiflu.

Get prepared instead.. just in case..

Watch the news..keep track of what's going on.. If it flares up in the UK then you can sure as heck bet I'll be wearing a mask in everything I do.
Dont bother with these flimsy surgical masks.. get one of those proper builders types, the ones wich fit all around your mouth and nose and has elastic straps that go over and around your head.. like these;
www.tooled-up.com... for example..

These will give you maximum protection from the slightest bit of air borne particle, instead of those flimsy surgcal or other cloth types.

Have a look for any tips on stopping any possible infection..like washing your hands if you've been out touching stuff like door handles, lift buttons etc.. OOhh...that reminds me.. This advert has been doing the rounds in cinemas and on tv over the last few weeks.. it's not on often, but it is on e of those that stuck in my mind..I have tried to find this on various other sources but unfortunately, this seems to be the only site where you can see it and I am not giving them any card details..
tr.truveo.com...

[edit on 27-4-2009 by Extralien]