I figured part of it out!

Reason President Bush is send all the jobs in America to Mexico is to get rid of the Mexicans in America! Brilliant plot from such a numbskull! We have jobs over here, Mexicans come over illegally to take them. But if we send all the jobs to Mexico, the Mexicans will go back to Mexico to take the jobs, in MEXICO! Brilliant! Then when they all there, we build a wall and bring the companies and jobs back! Wow, I can't beleive this crackhead could come up with such a great plan! Well, maybe Dick came up with it, but still, brilliant!

wow, you've managed to be ignorant AND stupid at the same time.

brovo my good man. But really that was one of the stupidest posts i've heard on this board. Ya just need any chance to take a pot shot at the pres. this is for actual coversatons/debates/fights/arguments, not just a place to mock people in power.

[Edited on 25-4-2004 by ShirtNinja]

this is for actual coversatons/debates/fights/arguments,

its a conspiracy board there fella.

[Edited on 25-4-2004 by Strigoi]

Mexicans take the jobs Americans won't do. In fifty years Mexico will be the southern US for all intents and purposes. Much like Canade claims to be a separate country but, their culture is dominated by the United States.
Walls do not work, Hadrians wall fell because the two opposing sides became indistinguishable from each other, then when the time came for invasion, no breech was needed the doors simply opened up. Same with the Great wall. Unless a huge military effort is expended on keeping two areas separated they will co-mingle, the edges will blur and the distinction will become based on paper, not reality.

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I read an interesting piece this morning on outsourcing jobs. The author basically dispelled some of the myths surrounding outsourcing. Here's a quote, and I'll post the link. It's a short piece, and an easy read.

Quote:
The debate over American companies outsourcing jobs is often tainted by misconceptions and anecdotal evidence, which the media tends to accept at face value. But as outsourcing emerges as a hot-button issue in the presidential election, it is time that some of the most common myths about outsourcing be dispelled.

Here's the article:

here

tell all that crap to the hundreds of people that worked for Thompson RCA in circleville about 15 mins from where i live.There jobs where re-located to mexico. sure they made more jobs, just hope these old guys dont' mind scrubbing dishes at our new max and erma's that is getting ready to open up

[Edited on 25-4-2004 by Strigoi]

Easy solution. If what James posted comes to pass, and there really are no jobs left here. It's easy. We'll just all move down to Mexico to reclaim them.

Not that I have anything against Mexico or Mexicans. I don't. Actually I see all this "outsourcing" etc, partly as engineering and manipulated to keep people fighting amongst each other and hence, not paying attention to the big stuff or the puppetmasters pulling the strings from behind the scenes.

Well KayEm, go visit tjuana for a month or 2. I lived in a san diego mexico border town for a few years. Than come back and you'll have a whole new cultural perspective, if you're still alive.

I'm not sure what you mean, John.

I didn't mean to come across as racist at all. I'm SO totally not. But what choice do Americans have if, in James scenario there are indeed no jobs left. Not that I think that will ever happen here, but the question put to us was "what if?". It just seemed a simple answer to me. That was all.

Please explain what you mean about Tijuana, as I've never even BEEN to Mexico, let alone Tijuana. According to the movies it's a pretty wild place, but nothing I've seen or heard (up to now) indicates it as a dangerous place. I've known several people that have been there at one time or another and they thought it was wild, all right, even dirty, but not dangerous.

Canada CLAIMS to be a seperate country but it's culture is dominated by the US?

Good lord man, you really should get out of your country and see the rest of the world before making such arrogant, boastful and ignorant claims.

Canada has invented the telephone, the zipper, the anti gravity suit, basketball, the walkie-talkie, UV degradeable plasitcs, the television camera, standard time, the screw propeller, Radio-Transmitted Voice, the prosthetic Hand, Plexiglas, newsprint, the Music Synthesizer, Kerosene, JAVA, the IMax Movie System, hydrofoils, the Green Ink used on YOUR money, the Electron Microscope, the electric organ, the Automatic Postal Sorter, the Electric Cooking Range, bromine, and the electric car heater, to name only a few.

Not only that but a good percentage of 'American' tv personalities and actors are Canadian. 70% of the space shuttle technology is Canadian.

Now, it's true that thanks to Canadian policitians selling out their country under NAFTA, Canadian business went up for sale to the Americans at .70 cents on the dollar, (they called it free trade) and most Canadian business have been bought up by American Corporations, but as far as influence goes Canada has actually influenced the States far more than the States has influenced Canada.

Canada has also burned down the White House, that's why it's called the White House, it was so scorched that they had to whitewash it while rebuilding it. How's THAT for influence?

It's a shame that some Americans are so blatantly insular that they think their country is the centre of the world. They seem to assume that just because they are constantly told by CNN that they are wonderful, that they truly are. And they rarely venture outside their sleepy little country to blink, wide eyed at the fact that there is a REAL world outside their borders.

Canadian culture is entirely different from that of the States, the main influence is that of purile hollywood films, and moronic sit-coms that, unfortunately the young, impressionable and vapid enjoy comsuming.

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The history of invention in Canada has followed a long and noble path. Canadian inventors have patented more than one million inventions, yet few people can name more than one or two Canadian inventors or any Canadian accomplishments.

"Our innovators have given novelty, variety, and colour to our lives with their great practical gifts, and the world would be an exceedingly boring and grey place without their vitality."

lol all that was BEFORE the brits let them govern themselves

Uh, zipper is an American invention, not canadian.

But what jobs do the mexicans take? Fruit picking. Guess what? That job isn't as #ty as they make it sound. You pick a fruit, put it in the basket, repeat. Hardest part of it was staying awake. Other job, dishwashing. Done that, not that bad except for prune fingers. They also take jobs in factories. Dad been working there for long time. Sounds like these jobs aren't just jobs Americans don't want. That is bs brought to you by people who have good jobs and don't mind if mexicans take other peoples jobs. But the second they have their job given to an illegal alien, they change their tune.

Fruit picking farms and washing dishes isn't the only thing they do. Those are jobs they take, but their are others that they take that anyone would want. Ever try to rent a video in texas? Better bring a translator. Wanna order food at the restraunt? Same translator needed. Wanna buy groceries? Same translator. I know, most people in the north just see mexicans working on fruit farms. But guess what? You go south and you will find that they take alot more than ourt fruit.

Canadian, Gideon Sundback, an electrical engineer, was hired to work for the Universal Fastener Company. Good design skills and a marriage to the plant-manager's daughter Elvira Aronson led Sundback to the position of head designer at Universal. He was responsible for improving the far from perfect 'Judson C-curity Fastener.' Unfortunately, Sundback's wife died in 1911. The grieving husband busied himself at the design table and by December of 1913, he had designed the modern zipper.

Alexander Graham Bell was Scottish and the inventor of the telephone.

James, I guess your job is safe "Would you like fries with that?"

Plenty of Canadians and Americans can claim some Scottish heritage, but Bell had emmigrated to Canada as opposed to simply jaunting across the border for a job.

[Edited on 29-4-2004 by Ninjorp]

just cause he lived in canada at one point doesnt make him a canadian

Ok it was invented in America.

Everything was invented in America.

It's the greatest nation ever to grace the face of the Earth, filled with the most upstanding morally upright people, divinely blessed by God himself.

It's a true beacon of righteousness, boldy illuminating a path for all other countries lost in this dark world.

well said ninja..
-kidding, Americans are ignorant. i am an American living in europe, and i must say that i am very thankful for the opportunity. it opens your eyes to reality. however, lets not even begin to act like the USA isnt the most influential country on this planet. it is simply the first to attempt democracy. yes, our system is flawed, but not enough to keep everyone else from following suit. lets just say America the free never existed..... -what kind of world would we be living in right now? post dark ages... sorry, but America takes credit.
dont hate America, hate its corrupt individuals who have taken control. -lost

I hate their stupid films.

I hate their popular 'music', which turns kids into morinic 'gansta rappin' psycotic thugs.

I hate how segments of the population chant U..S..A..U..S..A, during olympic events. Do you have ANY idea how absolutely classless this is?

I hate how a segment of their population thinks that they are the best, without ever having bothered to have actually gone anywhere else to verify this.

But by and large I think there is a huge segment of the American population who are fantastic, enlightened people. However this is not represented in their one sided media.

And the Americans WE NOT THE FIRST TO ATTEMPT DEMOCRACY, that was the ancient Greeks, long before The States was a country.

LOST...indeed.

So, America is the first to attempt democracy....what the feck are you talking about...??

From the Latin - democratia or Greek - demokratia

I agree that America's initial intention was to be a democracy, but at what price....Freedom..?

The only thing being created is a Hypocracy.

Trust me, I in no way believe that the UK is perfect, but don't kid yourselves, America will never be a Democracy.

Any leader you have that gives 2 sh!ts about other countries concerns normally finds a magic bullet heading their way.

And our existing leader is no better. Oh... he started off with great intentions, but then came 9/11 and a hollow excuse for Bush to go on a Middle Eastern Tour -

Afghanistan, almost acceptable.
Iraq, he gave the wrong reason WMDs, he should have said Saddam was the reason to begin with instead he created a lie.
and now
The full backing for Israel to keep the occupied territories on the West Bank.

and all the time Blair sitting on his shoulder trying to influence, with Cheney and Rumsfeld sitting on the other.

Who is running the US?