Swine Flu news and updates thread

oops and this link WAHLE.TO

A-H1N1 SWINE FLU VIRUS - Feared to be Military Weaponized Strain. Former National Security Agency (NSA) official, Wayne Madsen, a contributing writer for the “Online Journal” has stated: A top scientist for the United Nations examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, and concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission “vectors” that suggest, that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon. The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 SWINE FLU VIRUS are biological warfare agents. Another of Madsens' sources says: World Health Organization officials are afraid that the presence of gene segments from the dreaded H5N1 BIRD FLU in the A-H1N1 SWINE FLU strain could mean that the new swine flu strain was engineered to “jump species.” (April 27, 2009)

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OK sorry last one... I've been following wahle.to for 9 years now... love the guy!

WHALE h1n1

From the whale website:

SCIENCE VS PROMO Much of what appears on Gilead's website about Tamiflu is the work of Gilead's PR department. To find out what the actual scientists say about Tamiflu, we have to look at the Physician's Desk Reference, the technical bible of the drug industry. From that source we find a little different story. We find that the supposed action of Tamiflu is that it is assumed to prevent flu viruses from collecting on cells by specifically inhibiting a certain enzyme that helps viruses to bind to cells. The enzyme is called a neuraminidase. [17] The first problem is that they don't know for sure if that is the action of the drug, and always refer to it as the "proposed" mechanism of activity. But more pertinently, the scientists state that even though this seems to be how the drug works in culture, "the relationship between the activity in a culture and the inhibition of influenza virus replications in humans has not been established." (p2927) In other words the scientists who formulated Tamiflu are stating that they don't know whether or not it even works in humans! And this is the drug that all of American media is hawking to the skies as the savior that will save us from the plague of swine flu. NO DRUG CAN MUTATE Even if Tamiflu could inhibit virus proliferation in humans, it wouldn't work for very long in our entire population. Why not? Mutation. Influenza viruses are one of the fastest mutating of all known human viruses, mutating several times in one flu season, not just in a given locale, but even within the same person. At any one time across the country there are literally hundreds of strains of influenza in people. And this is precisely why flu shots have never worked and have had virtually no effect on the incidence of flu in this country for the past several years. [4] With Tamiflu, again, the scientists readily admit that "Insufficient information is available to fully characterize the risk of emergence of Tamiflu resistance in clinical use. [17] Resistance means tolerance, or the ability of viruses to mutate so as to be unaffected by the drug. We see this same exact phenomenon every year with the creation of many new infections of which people die, because the organisms become completely resistant to all known antibiotics. This is the result predicted by Alexander Fleming. [15] TAMIFLU NO GOOD AFTER 2 DAYS Another limitation of Tamiflu is the short window of opportunity for its claimed effectiveness. Again from the 2005 PDR: "Tamiflu is indicated for the treatment of uncomplicated influenza infection in patients 1 year and older who have been symptomatic for no more than 2 days." [17] For no more than 2 days. In other words, the manufacturers are saying Tamiflu doesn't work if the patient has had the flu for more than 2 days. Never saw that in Newsweek, did you? Reading on, the manufacturer is not claiming that Tamiflu can help any patients who were already sick when they got the flu. (p 2928) They further state that they don't know if multiple courses of Tamiflu are safe, because they never tested for more than one course.

When is the WHO press conference today?

reply to post by jonny2410


I think 4pm but they don't always show it on TV and when they have done it was often cut short. I've taken to listening to the online recording the WHO place on their website but not sure how many hours it takes before they put it up

Originally posted by jonny2410
When is the WHO press conference today?

Is there going to be one?

I think they are usually 4pm GMT.

it should be on sky active then at 4pm so i will look then.

Originally posted by DropOfKim
Well, I try to stay updated on everything posted here, but it is early yet for me and I may have missed this being here already. Iowa has gone from 5 cases to 36 cases today.

I still don't know what to think!

oh no I had not heard this about Iowa!!! I am in Iowa and this is getting very concerning.. It is Tulip time in Pella, Iowa and there will be thousands of people from all over the world there. We live about 15 miles away and my wife wants to go there tomarrow. I have been begging her to not go, but she wants us to go and I dont want to put myself, our son or my wife at risk. I dont know how I can talk her out of it

well i heard today that there was a report of a case near me, not real close but to close for comfrot. i live in milton fl, and this case was in oakaloosa county. that only about 20 miles from me. didnt hear if it was supect or confrimed just caught the tail end of the news.

Originally posted by jonny2410
When is the WHO press conference today?

Strange... the website up until I last looked when I got the transcripts said 'Audio files and trasncripts from daily briefings at 5pm' now it just says 'Audio files and transcripts from the briefings'

WHO

OOPS ignore that... this is what I saw:

Gregory Hartl: Welcome to the WHO's daily 17:00 o'clock press briefing here in Geneva, and I would like to handover to Dr Keiji Fukuda.

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reply to post by ecoparity


While we are on the tail end of the flu season in the Northern Hemisphere, it is incorrect to believe that there isn't another flu around.

Some researchers have found that the H2N3 virus that was circulating this winter has undergone a late season mutation that has increased its infectivity again.

Isn't that just GREAT?

Many of the people turning up with flus that test negative for H1N1 are probably infected with this new H2N3. The original stats from Mexico changed because of this - so when we saw those death numbers suddenly plummet it was because those people had tested negative for H1N1. However, a good number of those people had tested positive for H2N3.

For those waiting for the press conf i know that the earlier conferences after emergency meetings was held at about 21:00 GMT.

Cant wait to see what they say!

WHO forecast based on my calculations on thread in signature:

3000 infected +- 200
55-60 dead

I think we might get a phase 6 today as well considering M.Chans latest statement about how prepared we are, obviously trying to get people to realax.

-Zyk

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Does anyone know where online I can watch SKY interactive...I've got a place to watch SKY news but I doubt they will show it. Can't access my TV as my son is watching CITV

reply to post by cosmicpixie


I was asking that yesterday and no one knew.... I did find one place but you had to subscribe to it.

It's sunny out... convince your lad to go play and nab the TV lol

reply to post by yzzyUK


No chance, Horrid Henry is on at 4. I'd have the mother of all freak outs on my hands if I try and tear him away from that !

reply to post by cosmicpixie


not sure if you can get interactive but

try this then select the news section and see if sky is there

That's banned in our house! Hideous show!!

Is this link any use to you?

news.sky.com...

Originally posted by yzzyUK
oops and this link WAHLE.TO

A-H1N1 SWINE FLU VIRUS - Feared to be Military Weaponized Strain. Former National Security Agency (NSA) official, Wayne Madsen, a contributing writer for the “Online Journal” has stated: A top scientist for the United Nations examined the outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus in Africa, as well as HIV/AIDS victims, and concluded that H1N1 possesses certain transmission “vectors” that suggest, that the new flu strain has been genetically-manufactured as a military biological warfare weapon. The UN expert believes that Ebola, HIV/AIDS, and the current A-H1N1 SWINE FLU VIRUS are biological warfare agents. Another of Madsens' sources says: World Health Organization officials are afraid that the presence of gene segments from the dreaded H5N1 BIRD FLU in the A-H1N1 SWINE FLU strain could mean that the new swine flu strain was engineered to “jump species.” (April 27, 2009)

[edit on 8-5-2009 by yzzyUK]

I saw this on a news channel briefly very late at night/early morning, a couple of days ago. I couldn't sleep, there was nothing else on and I was flicking through the news channels. Next morning there was no mention of it and no-one I spoke to believed me!

Thank you for posting this because I was seriously beginning to think I must've dreamed it.

reply to post by Maya00a


You are most welcome.

Originally posted by cosmicpixie
Does anyone know where online I can watch SKY interactive...I've got a place to watch SKY news but I doubt they will show it. Can't access my TV as my son is watching CITV

is this the one you were looking for ?

freetube.110mb.com...