Swine Flu news and updates thread

bloomberg expected to make announcement on final swine flu results in 5 minutes- (source BNO news)

reply to post by irishchic


Why SHOULDN'T they raise the current pandemic threat level? You would think they would do it to be on the safe side, instead of, oh lets have a conference in two days time to decide whether we should raise it or not. A lot could happen in two days.

Originally posted by JanusFIN
Japanese corporations ban all employee trips to Mexico. Sending masks to employees working in the U.S. and Mexico.
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Operations Room Activated To Monitor Swine Flu
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Is the New Strain of Swine Flu a Bio-Terror Attack?

In a discussion this morning with a cell biologist and medical doctor working at Johns Hopkins, my friend thought this 4-part flu combination is highly unusual and looks like it could be man-made.

Especially because it has an avian strain. My doctor friend (he's Taiwanese) explained that in Asia, it's common for a avian-swine-human flu to happen naturally, but this virus first showed up in Mexico, where pigs and ducks are not usually raised together.
Also, recombination of more than 2-different flu viruses is extremely rare. I'm just repeating what he said as an expert in the field. He says the CDC needs to explain if there is a possibility that we are under a bio-weapon attack.

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I'm sorry, but just the statement "where pigs and ducks are not usually raised together" is enough to make me call foul (excuse the pun )

This theory that they're not raised together, in farming, is at best ignorant, and at worst, deliberately misleading.

Viruses can be transferred from Human to Animal. Did you not see the mass culling of Sheep in the UK due to Foot and Mouth, or the mass culling of Cows due to BSE?

That quote is completely irrelevant and actually quite false.

There is no evidence at all that this is a deliberately manufactured virus. None, nada, zero.

Why do you all so desperately wish this to be man-made? Why is it so much more exciting to you all to make this into something deliberate?
Is the fact that this is possible in nature so scary that you have to blame someone?

It's a virus, just like the many that have come before it and killed thousands if not millions. But now, it's more serious because of travel and it seems to have evolved quickly.

There have been fears of this happening for decades, it's nothing new. We should be prepared for it.

I think we should create one thread for all those who think it's some highly flawed and ineffective method of deliberate attack, and another for people with some common sense who just want to follow the real story without the whole NWO/terrorist attack BS thrown on top.

Originally posted by Seany
reply to post by Kram09

 

more people have died from indigestion in the last 24 hrs than

the swine flu

relax

Fair enough, but i might hold you to those words hahah. Let us all hope that this will just fizzle out. Anyway how many more people have died in the past 24 hours, that we know for certain? I reckon the death toll in Mexico is probably larger than they are lettting on. Judging by the comments from people in Mexico on the BBC news site, its worse than is being reported.

I don't understand why the WHO won't raise to a Phases 4. Clearly, people all over the globe are not immune to this strain. Who cares if they aren't dying like those in Mexico, the flu can kill any time, anyone, any where. Not to mention that the more it spreads in humans, the higher the chance of another mutation.
WHO states that Phases 3 is


'an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus has caused sporadic cases or small clusters of disease in people, but has not resulted in human-to-human transmission sufficient to sustain community-level outbreaks. Limited human-to-human transmission may occur under some circumstances, for example, when there is close contact between an infected person and an unprotected caregiver. However, limited transmission under such restricted circumstances does not indicate that the virus has gained the level of transmissibility among humans necessary to cause a pandemic.'

Phase 4 is


'is characterized by verified human-to-human transmission of an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus able to cause “community-level outbreaks.” The ability to cause sustained disease outbreaks in a community marks a significant upwards shift in the risk for a pandemic. Any country that suspects or has verified such an event should urgently consult with WHO so that the situation can be jointly assessed and a decision made by the affected country if implementation of a rapid pandemic containment operation is warranted. Phase 4 indicates a significant increase in risk of a pandemic but does not necessarily mean that a pandemic is a forgone conclusion. '

There is definitely human to human transmission and Mexico clearly has a sustained "community outbreak."

FYI, heartburn can't kill you, maybe if one had for years.

Originally posted by whitewave
Have anyone besides Mexicans died from this? There seem to be a lot of cases popping up and just resolving themselves but Mexicans are dropping like flies. How can this NOT be man-made? I mean, germs are probably the most egalitarian force on the planet. They don't care if you're black or white, Republican or Democrat, etc.

Why are ONLY Mexicans dying from this? There are plenty of unhygienic people all over the world, even here in good ol' U.S. of A. There are plenty of poor, uninsured people in lots of countries. Even with insurance, there are people who won't go to a doctor when they're sick.

Why only Mexicans?

Erm, how about because they were the first to develop symptoms and were treated ineffectively?

How about because the health standards in Mexico city are lower?

How about because there are more infected in that region than anywhere else?

Common sense again.

There is no evidence that this is man made, you just have to think for an extra two minutes and nnot immediately assume that everything is due to some evil person trying to kill you.

Seriously, are all Americans so convinced that everything is a terrorist attack?

reply to post by detachedindividual


I'm American, and I don't believe it is terrorism. Just the world taking care of itself and shedding humans like a bad case of fleas.

BBC

The doctors are contacting the BBC are reporting a much higher death rate. Well into the hundreds, doctors and nurses are among the dead too.

Call me a cynic guys but I'm not buying it.

This is the flu


THE FLU

It's the same thing we get Every year AKA THE FLU but this time it's being rebranded to make pigs look like the bad guy instead of the Chinese.

Remember? - For the past decade or so the MSM made a HUGE deal to point ot that the origin of that year's virus was from China? ex: Chinese Influenza strain ABCDE?

Now it's being re-branded into something SCARIER, WOOO!!!!! They got a good reaction from the Bird Flu and Mad Cow disease (much more so I'd gather to say than from the Chinese name) that they're going to run with it

The goal? TO SELL MEDICINE!

Expect soon to hear stories of how Tamiflu (which doesnt' work imho) is "Scarce" and "Flying off the shelf". The reaction will be for the drug company to jack up the price due to "demand" and then rake in killer profits...all the while we here are fighting....THE FLU


vitamin C, D, K. Lots of rest and sunshine if possible. Sleep with a humidifier if possible and by all means wash your hands.

reply to post by infinite


I have just watched the BBC news update on the website and it said the Mexican government say around 80 people have died so far. Yet these comments by doctors etc, say otherwise. Some students in New Zealand have symptoms but it is not yet confirmed that is swine fever, although it is likely to be.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by detachedindividual

 

I'm American, and I don't believe it is terrorism. Just the world taking care of itself and shedding humans like a bad case of fleas.

Ah, an island of common sense in a sea of insanity! Blessed be.

Though, while I do subscribe to the idea of the Earth being conscious, and while I do agree that the Human race is out of control, I don't think this is an effective culling method.

I think it's just an inevitable aspect of life on Earth. If we didn't all travel globally, this would probably wipe out the majority of the inhabitants of any location and then become dormant or die out completely. The only thing that makes this more dangerous than anything before it is its ability to travel over large distances and throughout every community on Earth.

That's why I think we should all be putting travel restrictions in place. It's too great a risk in this day and age. Previous viruses managed to kill millions of people, and that was without the ability to fly from one continent to another, without these transport hubs.
And subsequently that was without a virus being able to be exposed to every race on Earth, developing and mutating as it travels to suit each new host nation. Population numbers have also swelled, allowing a virus to infect millions more people and offering a million more opportunities to mutate.

With unprecedented ability to transfer between every kind of person on the planet, the risks of mutation increase exponentially. It wouldn't take long to become immune to whatever we throw at it.

reply to post by infinite


IMHO, if Mexico is under reporting the rate of infection, and death with this flu, the rest of the world needs to take that country over.

Originally posted by SpacePunk
reply to post by infinite

 

IMHO, if Mexico is under reporting the rate of infection, and death with this flu, the rest of the world needs to take that country over.

YES

lets all rush into the infected country

CNN - updated 1 minute ago.

81 dead in Mexico as flu emergency goes global

Mexican officials are asking residents to refrain from kissing as a greeting and maintain a distance of at least 6 feet from each other amid concern over swine flu infection. Eighty-one deaths in Mexico are "likely linked" to the virus. In the U.S., 11 swine flu cases have been confirmed; and in New Zealand, 22 students and three teachers who traveled to Mexico may have been infected. full story

reply to post by TXRabbit


No. You're talking about the Flu, Human flu, something that has existed for thousands of years and that we have built an immunity to be able to fight. Even then, it does indeed kill thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) every year all around the world.

This is a mutated virus originating in Pigs. A strain which we do not have the automatic ability to fight. If it becomes as widespread as Human Flu, the one you're talking about, the consequences of that are catastrophic. This has the ability to travel fast, is better at combating whatever we use against it, and is able to mutate quickly (it went from transferable from animal to human, to transferable between humans seemingly over night)

Do try to keep up.

Local media in Mexico City is reporting a 200+ death toll.

(source:BBC)

Originally posted by SpacePunk
reply to post by infinite

 

IMHO, if Mexico is under reporting the rate of infection, and death with this flu, the rest of the world needs to take that country over.

Ok, you first.


Seriously, you want the world to go into that country and take it over?

If it comes to it, the WHO and NATO/UN etc will go in "to assist" the government in dealing with it. But by that point it would be just as effective to close all the borders, down all flights and for the WHO to do what it has been doing all along and advising each nation on how to deal with their own outbreaks.

Taking over Mexico will do nothing but put more people at risk and scare the people there even more.

[edit on 26-4-2009 by detachedindividual]

Mayor Bloomberg is about to speak about the New York cases.

FOXNews have a live feed on their website.

Could a mod please collect all the source sites and put them on one entry.

200? Been about 3 days. Another week or two, probably be up in the thousands. Terrible, just terrible, it's spreading that's for sure!