Swine Flu news and updates thread

www.eluniversal.com.mx...

spreadin inside Mexico,

The MSM will simply play this up as much as they can for ratings.
You simply cannot judge how serious this is based on the attention it is receiving from the MSM.
As I stated previously, whilst this appears to be a nasty pathogen, I do not believe this is a "doomsday" scenario.
This whole disease area always looks scary when you are trying to understand it without a lot of appropriate knowledge & background.
I think it will be no worse that the SARS outbreaks & perhaps not as bad as that.

reply to post by dmorgan


Another South Islander
I had a similar reaction when first reading about the outbreaks in Mexico and the US. Thinking that New Zealand would be one of the most isolated places and thus one of the safest places to be... guess not

i found this video 20 days ago
this is insane:

www.disclose.tv...

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
Make sure to watch RSOE EDIS Emergency and Disaster Website it will visually show the migration of this pandemic.

I believe this is the work of man, not nature. I can't believe this complex and far reaching of a genetic hybrid just so happened...

Be smart, be safe.

hmm site is douwn... weird ..perhaps to much streams.

reply to post by knowneedtoknow


i found this video 20 days ago
this is insane:

www.disclose.tv...

Old news not debunked but well discussed in aother threads.

[edit on 26-4-2009 by gusan]

Looks like everyone is taking this very serious.

A new strain of swine flu has this metropolis of 20 million people increasingly fearful as suspected flu deaths grow, and world health officials warn that Mexico City could be at the epicenter of a global epidemic.

Health authorities started noticing a threefold spike in flu cases in late March and early April, but they thought it was a late rebound in the December-February flu season.

Testing at domestic labs did not alert doctors to the new strain. Health Secretary Jose Cordova acknowledged Mexican labs lacked the necessary profiling data to detect the previously unknown strain.

The first death occurred in southern Oaxaca state on April 13, but Mexico didn't send the first of 14 mucous samples to the CDC until April 18, around the same time it dispatched health teams to hospitals looking for patients with severe flu or pnuemonia-like symptoms.

Those teams noticed something strange: The flu was killing people aged 20 to 40. Flu victims are usually either infants or the elderly. The Spanish flu pandemic, which killed at least 40 million people worldwide in 1918-19, also first struck otherwise healthy young adults.

Even though U.S. labs detected the swine flu in California and Texas before last weekend, Mexican authorities as recently as Wednesday were referring to it as a late-season flu.

But mid-afternoon Thursday, Mexico City Health Secretary Dr. Armando Ahued said, officials got a call "from the United States and Canada, the most important laboratories in the field, telling us this was a new virus."

Apparently children are getting the disease, but not dying from it, which is the best news to me. No wonder flights to Mexico are so cheap right now.

Originally posted by knowneedtoknow
i found this video 20 days ago
this is insane:

www.disclose.tv...

Here's a link to the ATS thread where this video was posted on the 12th April.

LINK

Connected?

Can't a mod delete ALL non-news comments on this thread?
According to the title this is the:
"The official Swine Flu news and updates thread"
Why are people posting personal opinions on it?
Is it so difficult???

Oh @ mod, while you're @ it, feel free to delete this post as well!


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You're the only one that seems to have a problem with it.

Here are all the latest updates from rsoe

Situation Update No. 22
On 26.04.2009 at 05:55 GMT+2

President Felipe Calderon declared a national emergency Saturday, authorizing federal officials to quarantine the sick, shut down public events and businesses, and take other measures to contain the virus’ spread. “Although this is a grave, serious problem, we’re going to beat it,” Calderon said Saturday. Many in this crowded capital of 20 million are holing up or fleeing town as Mexico braces for what the World Health Organization warns could explode into a deadly global flu epidemic. Schools and universities remain closed, and people are being asked to avoid movie theaters, concerts and other mass gatherings. The new virus — a stew of various swine, bird and human influenza strains — has killed as many as 81 Mexicans and sicked more than 1,000 others in recent weeks as it’s taken root in Mexico City and a handful of other states. Of the deaths, 20 have been confirmed as swine flu.

This flu has not yet proved extraordinarily deadly nor exploded into epidemic proportions. Mexican soldiers and health workers patrolled airports and bus stations as they tried to corral people who may be infected with the swine flu, as it became clearer that the government may have been slow to respond to the outbreak in March and early April. WHO on Saturday asked countries around the world to step up reporting and surveillance of the disease and to implement a coordinated response to contain it. The Mexican government issued a decree authorized Calderon to invoke special powers letting the Health Department isolate patients and inspect homes, incoming travelers and baggage.

Mexican and international health officials are particularly worried because the flu is being passed from human to human, something rare with swine flus. “It has pandemic potential,” Margaret Chan, director of WHO, told reporters in Geneva. How dangerous this outbreak will prove to be “depends upon what proportion of the population is vulnerable,” said Paul Glezen, epidemiologist with the Influenza Research Center at Houston’s Baylor College of Medicine. That vulnerability hinges on the genetic combination of the virus and whether people have gained some immunity to it through exposure to other flu strains, Glezen said. “From what we’ve seen so far, it doesn’t seem to be extraordinarily virulent,” he said of Mexico’s outbreak.

Situation Update No. 21
On 26.04.2009 at 05:54 GMT+2

Mexico's president assumed new powers Saturday to isolate people infected with a deadly swine flu strain as authorities struggled to contain an outbreak that world health officials are warning could become a global epidemic. New cases of swine flu were confirmed in Kansas and California and suspected in New York City, but health officials said they didn't know whether it was the strain that has killed as many as 81 people in Mexico and likely sickened at least 1,324. Mexican soldiers and health workers patrolled airports and bus stations as they tried to corral people who may be infected with the swine flu, as it became clearer that the government may have been slow to respond to the outbreak in March and early April. Now, even detaining the ill may not keep the strain - a combination of swine, bird and human influenza to which people may have no natural immunity - from spreading, epidemiologists say. Scientists have warned for years about the potential for a pandemic from viruses that mix genetic material from humans and animals. The World Health Organization on Saturday declared the outbreak of the previously unknown virus "a public health emergency of international concern" and asked countries to step up surveillance of the disease and implement a coordinated response to contain it. Two dozen new suspected cases were reported in Mexico City alone, where authorities suspended schools and all public events until at least May 6. More than 500 concerts, sporting events and other gatherings were canceled in the metropolis of 20 million. Hospitals dealt with crowds of people seeking help. A hotline fielded 2,366 calls in its first hours from frightened city residents who suspected they might have the disease. Doctors reported that anti-viral medications and even steroids were working well against the disease, noting no new deaths had been reported in the capital in the last day.

Situation Update No. 20
On 26.04.2009 at 05:53 GMT+2

The Mexican government indicated that the outbreak was more severe than originally acknowledged, announcing that more than 1,300 people are believed to have been infected. The virus, which the World Health Organization's top official said had "pandemic potential," is now suspected in the deaths of 81 Mexicans, Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova said. Also Saturday, the Mexican government gave itself extraordinary powers to quarantine and forcibly treat infected people and to search homes and intercept suspected flu sufferers on public transport. The emergency decree follows measures that have included the closing of schools in the worst-affected areas until May 6, and the temporary shutdown of museums, clubs and theaters in Mexico City. Hundreds of concerts, private parties and other events were canceled as federal and local officials urged people to avoid large gatherings.

Situation Update No. 19
On 25.04.2009 at 11:27 GMT+2

The World Health Organisation said on Saturday it will hold an emergency meeting at 1400 GMT to discuss a deadly swine flu strain outbreak in Mexico and the United States. WHO Director-General Margaret Chan called the "virtual meeting" that will link public health authorities and experts in various parts of the world "to seek their advice and guidance," WHO spokesman Fadela Chaib said. Chan will also brief journalists about the outbreak -- which has killed up to 68 people in Mexico and infected 8 in the United States -- on a teleconference before the virtual meeting starts, at 1300 GMT. The experts will not necessarily issue firm recommendations on Saturday. Once more details are clear about the virus and its risks, the emergency panel could recommend a change in the WHO's pandemic alert level -- currently at 3 on a scale of 1 to 6 -- or recommend travel advisories to control the flu's spread.

Situation Update No. 18
On 25.04.2009 at 11:26 GMT+2

Report by WHO:

The United States Government has reported seven confirmed human cases of Swine Influenza A/H1N1 in the USA (five in California and two in Texas) and nine suspect cases. All seven confirmed cases had mild Influenza-Like Illness (ILI), with only one requiring brief hospitalization. No deaths have been reported.

The Government of Mexico has reported three separate events. In the Federal District of Mexico, surveillance began picking up cases of ILI starting 18 March. The number of cases has risen steadily through April and as of 23 April there are now more than 854 cases of pneumonia from the capital. Of those, 59 have died. In San Luis Potosi, in central Mexico, 24 cases of ILI, with three deaths, have been reported. And from Mexicali, near the border with the United States, four cases of ILI, with no deaths, have been reported.

Of the Mexican cases, 18 have been laboratory confirmed in Canada as Swine Influenza A/H1N1, while 12 of those are genetically identical to the Swine Influenza A/H1N1 viruses from California.

The majority of these cases have occurred in otherwise healthy young adults. Influenza normally affects the very young and the very old, but these age groups have not been heavily affected in Mexico.

Because there are human cases associated with an animal influenza virus, and because of the geographical spread of multiple community outbreaks, plus the somewhat unusual age groups affected, these events are of high concern.

The Swine Influenza A/H1N1 viruses characterized in this outbreak have not been previously detected in pigs or humans. so far characterized have

Its disturbing

everyone who has had it here in the states has been fine and felt relieved

Because they had access to top notch medical care, but what happens when people start to panic and emergency rooms fill up? It isn't just the flu that is a danger, it's the ensuing panic that will stretch medical care to it's limits causing people who are ill not to be treated, causing medical personnel to have to triage, causing people to die.

Or not, we shall see what happens.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by Aldolas

 

You're the only one that seems to have a problem with it.

No he's right, its a news update thread.. Well thats whats in the title.

Here is a link to the Sydney Morning Herald article as of tonight.

www.smh.com.au...

In view of the strong concern stated about the NZ cases, I note the article states the following:

"Ministry of Health officials advise me there is no guarantee these students have swine influenza, but they consider it likely,'' NZ Health Minister Tony Ryall said in a statement.
None are considered seriously ill and most seem to be on the road to recovery, he said."

A scenario for a successful movie can easily be developed from all the posts in this thread...

Originally posted by Merigold


Because they had access to top notch medical care, but what happens when people start to panic and emergency rooms fill up? It isn't just the flu that is a danger, it's the ensuing panic that will stretch medical care to it's limits causing people who are ill not to be treated, causing medical personnel to have to triage, causing people to die.

Or not, we shall see what happens.

Very important and good post on this thread.

Because its all true and wise. See this is what could/might happen, as the numbers grow, so does the "human factor" and its only humans looking after humans. Doctors are not gods or super human, they can only work at human speeds. Point is, if this thing does go PANdemic, then things will start to slow down, get stuck and almost seem like its stopped, as the numbers rise.

This is where mass death will happen.

Avian flu =1
asian swine =1
european swine =1
Human flu =1
1111

Sorry I couldn't help it

OK..so we post the news here and then go to another thread to discuss it?

This works fine if we all keep to the same thread, with news and comments and all we need to get out of our chest. ! thread wit ALL.

In any case, i now believe we will be able to handel this Virus so no worries for me.

Originally posted by Aldolas
Can't a mod delete ALL non-news comments on this thread?
According to the title this is the:
"The official Swine Flu news and updates thread"
Why are people posting personal opinions on it?
Is it so difficult???

Oh @ mod, while you're @ it, feel free to delete this post as well!


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Surely it's acceptable to comment/discuss official news after someone posts it. If people simply want to read the latest news then why come to a discussion forum when there are dedicated news sites available?

The official global meltdown thread posts official news and has plenty of discussion and that thread works very well.

the latest interesting twist i have seen is, where's Obama?

supposedly he was relocated recently following an intrusion into the no fly zone above Washington.

Has he been seen since? If not why? does he have signs of Swine Flu? or staying away as a precaution?