Biotechnology Company Provided Advance Warning of Mexican H1N1 "Swine Flu" Virus Outbreak

reply to post by Jess_Undefined

Originally posted by Jess_Undefined

I think alot of people are going to just try to ignore this and pretend nothing is happening.

sadly that is how people are. this outbreak of swine virus is all over the web and all over the major news channels and probably 90% of people have no clue its even happening.

granted it just really broke thursday in the news but most people just dont care enough about whats going on in the world around them.
it will take body bags for americans to start to take notice.

I don't hate america, I just see what that country instigates on the rest of the world and on its own people, and who gets accused of doing it, and I scratch my head.

I first learned of the Illuminati and the Freemasons over 20 years ago and have been questioning the goings on in the world ever since. Basically everything leads back to the dark organisations (dark=negative secret societies) and the control and manipulation of the general populace, in my humble opinion, just from what I've researched.

reply to post by elitegamer23


I definetly agree. I was just talking about it to two of my friends and they had no idea what it was.

I was asked by my boyfriend why I was even reading about it and I said because ide rather know as much about it so that I know whats going on and im not suprised with it. And he actually said "I would rather not know and whatever happens, happens."

Its like are you serious. Whatever happens?!

You would think everyone would want to arm themselves with knowledge instead of ignorance.

reply to post by ecoparity


Why mexico as the release point? Or have we not seen the full scope of this yet, as in... if it is man made and released by man, is there other targets then Mexico, or do they feel Mexico can cover everywhere they want it to be.

Welcome to the biological warfare phase of WW III.

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
reply to post by ecoparity

 

Why mexico as the release point? Or have we not seen the full scope of this yet, as in... if it is man made and released by man, is there other targets then Mexico, or do they feel Mexico can cover everywhere they want it to be.

Welcome to the biological warfare phase of WW III.

well lets just speculate that it was some enemy of the usa who started this. with the rate it is spreading they knew if it was released into mexico it would take no time to enter the usa.

i dont think this is a government trying to start a bio war, id guess population control is more likely.
it would be too easy to have it find its way into your own country and destroy your own people.
it was proven in ww1 that chem/bio weapons can just as easily blow back into your face.

reply to post by Jess_Undefined

Originally posted by Jess_Undefined


You would think everyone would want to arm themselves with knowledge instead of ignorance.

especially with something as serious as this. you can probably go tell 10 people at your local wallmart that a possible PANDEMIC is brewing and they will not have any clue what you are talking about. they wont even understand what a pandemic is.

all you can do really is enlighten yourself but you are here on ats so i dont need to tell you that you already know.

Has anybody noticed security personnel or other officials using hand held thermal imagers to pull people with fevers out of lineups.
Examples

I'm completely prepared to take me and mine and head out into the bush while this passes. My question is: How long should a person prepare to be on their own once the illness is seen to be approaching their community? Is there data suggesting how long a wave of contagiousness would typically last in an area?

reply to post by dainoyfb


well put it this way the pandemic of 1918 is called the pandemic of 1918/1919 by some people.

i guess your best bet would be to have an emergency radio handy .

This is absolutely nothing to get worked up over. I guarantee this will be a total non-event. Nothing more than the media blowing a virus hugely out of proportion in order to boost ratings.

reply to post by Aesun

Originally posted by Aesun
This is absolutely nothing to get worked up over. I guarantee this will be a total non-event.

tell the people of mexico city especially the families of the people who have died that this is nothing to get worked up over. from their perspective its something serious.

global.marsh.com...

NEW REPORT SAYS A PANDEMIC IS OVERDUE, BUT COMPANIES AND NATIONS ARE ILL-PREPARED TO COPE WITH THE IMPACT

reply to post by Aesun


Pretty much. It's good to be cautious and all, but all this "THIS IS IT, THE BIG ONE IS HERE, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT " seems, at least to me, to be nothing but fear mongering. What good is being afraid of this going to do? If it doesn't happen, then people who said it was going to happen will go hide in the shadows, and if it does happen, everybody will band together to stop it.

Originally posted by elitegamer23
reply to post by Aesun

 

Originally posted by Aesun
This is absolutely nothing to get worked up over. I guarantee this will be a total non-event.

tell the people of mexico city especially the families of the people who have died that this is nothing to get worked up over. from their perspective its something serious.

global.marsh.com...

NEW REPORT SAYS A PANDEMIC IS OVERDUE, BUT COMPANIES AND NATIONS ARE ILL-PREPARED TO COPE WITH THE IMPACT

The normal flu kills hundreds of thousands of people every year, and we commemorate their deaths by calling it "flu season". I really don't understand the level of melodrama that's occurring on this forum right now.

I thought that ATS was a website where free-thinking individuals came together to rationally discuss things. After reading the last four pages, every post seems to be getting gradually more outrageous.

reply to post by DEM0N


Interesting on the Air Force drills. I've worked on the Coast Guard Academy since June 88. They just rush - rush installed "security bollards" everywhere. In-ground, vertically firing anti-vehicle posts. Sure has been a long time since 9/11 to start thinking about this now.

reply to post by Aesun

Originally posted by Aesun


The normal flu kills hundreds of thousands of people every year, and we commemorate their deaths by calling it "flu season". I really don't understand the level of melodrama that's occurring on this forum right now.

I thought that ATS was a website where free-thinking individuals came together to rationally discuss things. After reading the last four pages, every post seems to be getting gradually more outrageous.

maybe you should contact the cdc and who. they seem to be worried about this .

are you just here to troll? its just the vibes you are giving off .

here is the current headline on cnn.com

More swine flu hits U.S.; emergency in Mexico

maybe you should call mexico and tell them nothing to worry about.


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[edit on 25-4-2009 by elitegamer23]

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
reply to post by ecoparity

 

Why mexico as the release point? Or have we not seen the full scope of this yet, as in... if it is man made and released by man, is there other targets then Mexico, or do they feel Mexico can cover everywhere they want it to be.

Welcome to the biological warfare phase of WW III.

Well, out of pure speculation...

Suppose the intent was to release in three areas of the US in order to defeat any possible containment. Maybe the second team came through Mexico, maybe all three or four or five - maybe the container for the virus had an issue and infected bystanders or perhaps the intent was to release it exactly where it has been.

So, your a NWO bio weapon courier and your payload gets loose and starts killing people in Mexico. Maybe you got sloppy and infected yourself and now there's a dead foreign national in a Mexico morgue somewhere...

These viruses mutate fast so by the time the East and West coast teams reach the targets the virus has mutated into a non deadly form. In this scenario (especially if the agents are unsophisticated, say an Al Queda attack team or something) the Mexico outbreak is deadly simply because it was released prior to mutation. We can guess the virus would not be as stable as a bio weapon from Russia or the US.

The flu pops up in Asia and makes it way over here every season. It is not normal for one to just suddenly pop up in Mexico, NYC and California. Maybe this is the "crisis" Biden warned us about?

You think this is a non event? Call up the president of the WHO, see what he thinks. I believe he said today, on CNN, swine flu has the opportunity to not only be just a pandemic, but a GLOBAL pandemic which is a whole different monster.

Lets look at the data (thats been reported so far) from Mexico, from an epidemiology stand point. 1000 cases, 70 deaths. Thats 7%. If this goes global, your looking at 7% of the world being wiped out.

Non event? I think not.

I've had a lot of replies, I would ask people to U2U, its too hard to sift through. But as far as the philosophical question, I believe in the theory that with a sound mind, with good intentions the world is bright and sunny... but to those with a tainted mind, with poor intentions, the world is a constant # cloud.

reply to post by retroviralsounds


he is just trolling . if he actually took the time to read about what is happening since thursday he wouldnt say such things as its a non-event.

Originally posted by Aesun
This is absolutely nothing to get worked up over. I guarantee this will be a total non-event. Nothing more than the media blowing a virus hugely out of proportion in order to boost ratings.

It already IS something. Which makes it impossible to be absolutely nothing.
It already is an event - which makes it impossible for it to be a non-event.

Please don't be glib. It is unfair to all of the people who are working so hard to bring information to these threads. Perhaps you are afraid to look at what is being presented? Which is completely natural. All the best.


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This seems to be the latest on this outbreak, hope the staff doesn't mind, this needs to get out there.

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Mexican Doctor: Real Figure Is 200 Dead, Situation Out Of Control

BBC News
Saturday, April 25, 2009

Comment: The strain in Mexico is reported as being the same in the U.S. One of two things is true - either the Mexicans are lying about the severity of the crisis, or deaths in the U.S. are being covered up. The fact that this is all unfolding right on the border with Texas is obviously of prime importance because we are based here.

Tune in tonight at 8PM for a special swine flu report with Alex Jones. Listen online for free or watch the TV stream at prison planet.tv.

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I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from “under control”. As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.
Yeny Gregorio Dávila, Mexico City

The situation in Mexico City is really not normal. There is a sense of uncertainty that borders on paranoid behaviour in some cases. At this very moment, Mexican TV is showing how military forces are giving masks to the people in the streets. Moreover the news is sending alarming messages for the audience. Really, the atmosphere in the city is unsettling, a good example: pubs and concerts are being closed or cancelled and people don’t haven thorough information. In this city (and country) there is an urgent need for assertive information, no paranoid messages from the government or the Mexican media.
Patricio Barrientos and Aranzazu Nuñez, Mexico City

Massive events have been cancelled at the National Auditorium - Mexico City’s largest indoor venue with capacity of 10,000 - which has been closed. Two soccer games have been cancelled at the Olympic Stadium. A sold out game with 70,000 expected attendance will be played behind closed doors. Another game at the famous Azteca Stadium that would draw an attendance of 50,000 will also be played behind closed doors.
Juan Carlos Leon Calderon, Mexico City

It’s eerily quiet here in the capital. Lots of people with masks, Facebook communities exchanging gallows humour, everybody waiting to see if schools and universities will stay closed for ten days (as goes the rumour). All masks have been used up, and we are waiting for new supplies.
Dr Duncan Wood, Mexico City

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www.foxnews.com...

New Cases of Swine Influenza Confirmed in Kansas, California and Suspected in NYC

Saturday, April 25, 2009


NEW YORK — At least two cases of the human swine influenza have been confirmed in Kansas and one more in California, bringing the U.S. total to 11. At least eight students at a New York City high school probably have swine flu, but health officials said Saturday they don't know whether they have the same strain of the virus that has killed scores of people in Mexico.

A strain of the flu has killed as many as 68 people and sickened more than 1,000 across Mexico. The World Health Organization chief said Saturday the strain has "pandemic potential" and it may be too late to contain a sudden outbreak.

Kansas health officials said Saturday they had confirmed swine flu in a married couple living in the central part of the state after the husband visited Mexico.

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The couple were not hospitalized, and the state described their illnesses as mild.

Dr. Jason Eberhart-Phillips, the state health officer, said, "Fortunately, the man and woman understand the gravity of the situation and are very willing to isolate themselves."

The man traveled to Mexico last week for a professional conference and became ill after he returned home. His wife became ill later. Their doctor suspected swine flu, but it wasn't confirmed until flu specimens were flown to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

At least nine swine flu cases also have been reported in California and Texas. The new California case, the seventh there, was a 35-year-old woman who was hospitalized but recovered. The woman, whose illness began in early April, had no known contact with the other cases.

Health officials are worried because people appear to have no immunity to the virus, a combination of bird, swine and human influenzas. Also, the virus presents itself like other swine flus, but none of the U.S. cases appears to involve direct contact with pigs, said Eberhart-Phillips, who called the strain "a completely novel virus."

"It appears to be able to transmit easily between humans," Eberhart-Phillips said. "It's something that could potentially become very big, and we're only seeing, potentially, the very beginning of a widespread outbreak."

I am beginning to suspect this virus in a manufactured thing, plaese protect yourself, and for God's sake, don't take any vaccines.